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(2014-11-18, 06:35)aptalca Wrote: [ -> ]
(2014-11-17, 23:38)aptalca Wrote: [ -> ]I looked on github and noticed that the development branch is 6 commits behind the master branch. I am confused. Isn't development supposed to be ahead (apart from when the master branch catches up every once in a while)?

Which branch should I be installing to have the latest features?

PS. I currently have the development branch installed but it was not self updating even though it was set to auto-update to the latest development. It was stuck on 0.5.4a for the longest time until I manually updated to 0.5.6 by installing from zip
Am I on Luna's ignore list? How come he's always passing me over and answering the people below me Tongue
Lol, you are not on my ignorelist. Your question wasn't worth the time to answer…
Not being mean, just straight with you.
If I tell you Development is the latest code, you can either believe me or not… its not up for discussion.

[SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH]
(2014-11-18, 14:22)Lunatixz Wrote: [ -> ]
(2014-11-18, 06:35)aptalca Wrote: [ -> ]
(2014-11-17, 23:38)aptalca Wrote: [ -> ]I looked on github and noticed that the development branch is 6 commits behind the master branch. I am confused. Isn't development supposed to be ahead (apart from when the master branch catches up every once in a while)?

Which branch should I be installing to have the latest features?

PS. I currently have the development branch installed but it was not self updating even though it was set to auto-update to the latest development. It was stuck on 0.5.4a for the longest time until I manually updated to 0.5.6 by installing from zip
Am I on Luna's ignore list? How come he's always passing me over and answering the people below me Tongue
Lol, you are not on my ignorelist. Your question wasn't worth the time to answer…
Not being mean, just straight with you.
If I tell you Development is the latest code, you can either believe me or not… its not up for discussion.

[SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH]
Big Grin I believe you. Just wanted to confirm. I'll keep using the development branch.

Thanks
(2014-11-18, 01:01)Kalebbroo Wrote: [ -> ]
(2014-11-18, 00:58)Rickt1962 Wrote: [ -> ]Just installed PseudoTVlive 0.5.6 on a Satellite STB with android 4.2.2 It already has XBMC gotham 3.1 on it my problem is everytime I setup channels for my Media off the hard drive I select save then go back out start up PTVL and it gives me error message saying no channels are found do you want to set it up. And it repeats the same again. Stuck in a loop Sad

you need to post a log if you need help. Where do you click save? I dont think I have ever seen a save button on PTVL.

The XBMC is on a Satellite TV Box no way of getting the log.
Let me try again:

Startup PTVL Error pop up " Unable to find any Channels. Please Configure the addon." So I click OK Under settings I move down to Open Channel Configuration There I set up 3 channels just for now will add more later. Ch1 Channel type TV shows next box The Big Bang Theory scroll down click OK repeat same process for the other 2 channels. now to get out of the Channel Configuration screen I use the Exit Key on the Remote a pop up screen Says " Save" " Do you want to save all changes ?" Yes or No I click "Yes" then Click "OK" In the Settings when I start up PTVL it acts like I never set any channels. Is there another setting I am missing ?
The refresh rate for the Settop Box Mode in the PSTV settings increment as 4,8,12 and 24 hours.

Question: What are the allowable hourly increments for the individual channels?

Next question: Am I correct in assuming that the program operates using the following programming flow. PSTV holds its settings in memory and every 4 hours (assuming you picked 4 hours in the settings) an event is triggers to go and examine ALL of the channel xml data. PSTV will then search each channels data for the value of Channel_#_rule_1_opt_1 and then compare it to the channels last reset time Channel_#_SetResetTime. If the time between the last reset time and the time now is greater than your Channel_#_rule_1_opt_1 value a channel data refresh is triggered. Otherwise nothing happens and PSTV goes back to sleep for however many hours you have set in the settings. 4 hours in my example.
(2014-11-18, 17:06)Rickt1962 Wrote: [ -> ]
(2014-11-18, 01:01)Kalebbroo Wrote: [ -> ]
(2014-11-18, 00:58)Rickt1962 Wrote: [ -> ]Just installed PseudoTVlive 0.5.6 on a Satellite STB with android 4.2.2 It already has XBMC gotham 3.1 on it my problem is everytime I setup channels for my Media off the hard drive I select save then go back out start up PTVL and it gives me error message saying no channels are found do you want to set it up. And it repeats the same again. Stuck in a loop Sad

you need to post a log if you need help. Where do you click save? I dont think I have ever seen a save button on PTVL.

The XBMC is on a Satellite TV Box no way of getting the log.
Let me try again:

Startup PTVL Error pop up " Unable to find any Channels. Please Configure the addon." So I click OK Under settings I move down to Open Channel Configuration There I set up 3 channels just for now will add more later. Ch1 Channel type TV shows next box The Big Bang Theory scroll down click OK repeat same process for the other 2 channels. now to get out of the Channel Configuration screen I use the Exit Key on the Remote a pop up screen Says " Save" " Do you want to save all changes ?" Yes or No I click "Yes" then Click "OK" In the Settings when I start up PTVL it acts like I never set any channels. Is there another setting I am missing ?

If I were you I would contact the manufacturer. It sounds like you might have proprietary software installed on that box.
I knew it was you all along Lunatixz Tongue Sorry, i'll post a log soon, but FYI, backported to PTVL 0.5.0 (from SuperRepo i think) and it works fine.

I know it could be a plugin or something else that has culminated into an issue for my specific PTVL 0.5.6 installation, but i'll post a debug log soon and hopefully we can get to the bottom of it, once i do that.

Thanks for all that you do Luna, and i'll get around to posting a log soon.


Cheers.
(2014-11-18, 17:09)Marshall Wrote: [ -> ]The refresh rate for the Settop Box Mode in the PSTV settings increment as 4,8,12 and 24 hours.

Question: What are the allowable hourly increments for the individual channels?

Next question: Am I correct in assuming that the program operates using the following programming flow. PSTV holds its settings in memory and every 4 hours (assuming you picked 4 hours in the settings) an event is triggers to go and examine ALL of the channel xml data. PSTV will then search each channels data for the value of Channel_#_rule_1_opt_1 and then compare it to the channels last reset time Channel_#_SetResetTime. If the time between the last reset time and the time now is greater than your Channel_#_rule_1_opt_1 value a channel data refresh is triggered. Otherwise nothing happens and PSTV goes back to sleep for however many hours you have set in the settings. 4 hours in my example.

It's a two part process, Settop Interval is how often PTVL will check if a channel needs updating.

The advanced channel setting "reset x hours" tells PTVL that the channel needs updating after x hours. So you can set it to update every hour, but PTVL will only check at the min. every four hours...

This is also assuming you are using the "Automatic" time to reset channel setting. If you are not, then PTVL will rebuild every channel, not just the ones with the reset rule, using "every day" you can treat that like you set an advanced rule to reset every 24 hours. If you set "Every time" then Settop will reset all channels on every run...

There is a ton of reasons why it's a bad idea to force PTVL to rebuild all channels in settop mode. Which is why it should be handled on a per channel basis. If you want settop to run how it was designed.

Set "time to reset channel" to automatic, and set a per channel rule on only the channels you want to force updating on.
Remember that PTVL is already smart enough to update channels on its own, no settings required. Settop only "Forces" an update.

For example, In automatic mode, if a channel's playlist is getting old, and you've watched all the shows, PTVL knows and will update the channel before the end of the playlist. No extra rules needed, this is what "automatic" means.
But if you are like me and want the latest shows added to a channel right away without waiting, you would "force" a reset using the advanced "reset every x hours".

"opt_1" isn't the reset rule, it's the rule for renaming a channel, I believe the reset rule is "opt_13"? I don't recommend manually adding advanced rules. Use either PTVL's channel manager or the windows utility. Overall your assumption is correct
(2014-11-18, 17:23)Marshall Wrote: [ -> ]
(2014-11-18, 17:06)Rickt1962 Wrote: [ -> ]
(2014-11-18, 01:01)Kalebbroo Wrote: [ -> ]you need to post a log if you need help. Where do you click save? I dont think I have ever seen a save button on PTVL.

The XBMC is on a Satellite TV Box no way of getting the log.
Let me try again:

Startup PTVL Error pop up " Unable to find any Channels. Please Configure the addon." So I click OK Under settings I move down to Open Channel Configuration There I set up 3 channels just for now will add more later. Ch1 Channel type TV shows next box The Big Bang Theory scroll down click OK repeat same process for the other 2 channels. now to get out of the Channel Configuration screen I use the Exit Key on the Remote a pop up screen Says " Save" " Do you want to save all changes ?" Yes or No I click "Yes" then Click "OK" In the Settings when I start up PTVL it acts like I never set any channels. Is there another setting I am missing ?

If I were you I would contact the manufacturer. It sounds like you might have proprietary software installed on that box.


The software its running on is Jelly Bean 4.2.2 The xbmc looks original all the other addons work so I figure it must be a setting that Im missing in PTVL
(2014-11-18, 18:27)Lunatixz Wrote: [ -> ]
(2014-11-18, 17:09)Marshall Wrote: [ -> ]The refresh rate for the Settop Box Mode in the PSTV settings increment as 4,8,12 and 24 hours.

Question: What are the allowable hourly increments for the individual channels?

Next question: Am I correct in assuming that the program operates using the following programming flow. PSTV holds its settings in memory and every 4 hours (assuming you picked 4 hours in the settings) an event is triggers to go and examine ALL of the channel xml data. PSTV will then search each channels data for the value of Channel_#_rule_1_opt_1 and then compare it to the channels last reset time Channel_#_SetResetTime. If the time between the last reset time and the time now is greater than your Channel_#_rule_1_opt_1 value a channel data refresh is triggered. Otherwise nothing happens and PSTV goes back to sleep for however many hours you have set in the settings. 4 hours in my example.

It's a two part process, Settop Interval is how often PTVL will check if a channel needs updating.

The advanced channel setting "reset x hours" tells PTVL that the channel needs updating after x hours. So you can set it to update every hour, but PTVL will only check at the min. every four hours...

This is also assuming you are using the "Automatic" time to reset channel setting. If you are not, then PTVL will rebuild every channel, not just the ones with the reset rule, using "every day" you can treat that like you set an advanced rule to reset every 24 hours. If you set "Every time" then Settop will reset all channels on every run...

There is a ton of reasons why it's a bad idea to force PTVL to rebuild all channels in settop mode. Which is why it should be handled on a per channel basis. If you want settop to run how it was designed.

Set "time to reset channel" to automatic, and set a per channel rule on only the channels you want to force updating on.
Remember that PTVL is already smart enough to update channels on its own, no settings required. Settop only "Forces" an update.

For example, In automatic mode, if a channel's playlist is getting old, and you've watched all the shows, PTVL knows and will update the channel before the end of the playlist. No extra rules needed, this is what "automatic" means.
But if you are like me and want the latest shows added to a channel right away without waiting, you would "force" a reset using the advanced "reset every x hours".

"opt_1" isn't the reset rule, it's the rule for renaming a channel, I believe the reset rule is "opt_13"? I don't recommend manually adding advanced rules. Use either PTVL's channel manager or the windows utility. Overall your assumption is correct

Thank you for the detailed explanation. I'm looking to optimize my setup so that PTVL spends as little time updating and fetching data as possible (for all the obvious reasons) while prioritizing the newest media with as few reruns as possible (media library depth permitting).

I notice the windows utility (Psudo TV Live Manager) makes no refrence to the Media limit on type 10, 11, 13 etc channels. Perhaps this is an oversight or that option is no longer applicable to PTVL. I also see you can set a media limit in the settings under the "Tweaks" section in the PTVL settings. Again I assume that the PTVL settings take precedence over the individual channel settings. I would assume, perhaps incorrectly, that if you set the media limit to 100 in the control panel and then add a Channel_#_3 value of 50, the EPG will populate itself with 100 items. I would assume this, but interestingly enough, it doesn't seem to matter what I set in the PTVL control panel. And it doesn't seem to matter if I've set a Channel_#_3 value for the channel to 250 or 1000. PTVL seems to be building the EPG using a max value of 50.

It seems to me the media limit is somewhat obsolete especially when you are running PTVL as a settop box. Unless you are stacking up 25 really short items you're looking at at least 10 hours or more of material before PTVL needs to fetch more data. And of course setting a media limit of 1000 seems absolutely ridiculous unless you don't mind waiting a really long time to build the EPG for what amounts to no good reason.

To make a long story short, I think limiting the media to 25 items per channel is more than adequate in a situation where you run PTVL 24x7x365. Please fill me in on what I'm missing in the settings to make that happen.
(2014-11-18, 19:48)Rickt1962 Wrote: [ -> ]
(2014-11-18, 17:23)Marshall Wrote: [ -> ]
(2014-11-18, 17:06)Rickt1962 Wrote: [ -> ]The XBMC is on a Satellite TV Box no way of getting the log.
Let me try again:

Startup PTVL Error pop up " Unable to find any Channels. Please Configure the addon." So I click OK Under settings I move down to Open Channel Configuration There I set up 3 channels just for now will add more later. Ch1 Channel type TV shows next box The Big Bang Theory scroll down click OK repeat same process for the other 2 channels. now to get out of the Channel Configuration screen I use the Exit Key on the Remote a pop up screen Says " Save" " Do you want to save all changes ?" Yes or No I click "Yes" then Click "OK" In the Settings when I start up PTVL it acts like I never set any channels. Is there another setting I am missing ?

If I were you I would contact the manufacturer. It sounds like you might have proprietary software installed on that box.


The software its running on is Jelly Bean 4.2.2 The xbmc looks original all the other addons work so I figure it must be a setting that Im missing in PTVL

Well it obviously isn't. The message you claim pops up says it is "Unable to find any Channels. Please Configure the addon." The addon is not part of PTVL. Most likely that addon is a proprietary addon that the manufacture wrote so that you can configure PTVL to work with the tuner streams in that box. Since I'm somewhat familiar with these sorts of issues I'd be willing to guess that you have a permissions problem on the settings files PTVL uses. The addon probably can't write to the settings file so every time you hit the save button, you think you saved your changes but in reality the settings files couldn't be updated and the next time you start PTVL is asks all over again for you to set the channel info. No guarantees, just an educated guess from someone familiar with the permissions issues you run into on Android when you install software without elevated permissions.

Again you should contact the manufacture and tell them what you did. They might have a patch or have seen the exact same issue before.

Good luck.
(2014-11-18, 20:22)Marshall Wrote: [ -> ]
(2014-11-18, 19:48)Rickt1962 Wrote: [ -> ]
(2014-11-18, 17:23)Marshall Wrote: [ -> ]If I were you I would contact the manufacturer. It sounds like you might have proprietary software installed on that box.


The software its running on is Jelly Bean 4.2.2 The xbmc looks original all the other addons work so I figure it must be a setting that Im missing in PTVL

Well it obviously isn't. The message you claim pops up says it is "Unable to find any Channels. Please Configure the addon." The addon is not part of PTVL. Most likely that addon is a proprietary addon that the manufacture wrote so that you can configure PTVL to work with the tuner streams in that box. Since I'm somewhat familiar with these sorts of issues I'd be willing to guess that you have a permissions problem on the settings files PTVL uses. The addon probably can't write to the settings file so every time you hit the save button, you think you saved your changes but in reality the settings files couldn't be updated and the next time you start PTVL is asks all over again for you to set the channel info. No guarantees, just an educated guess from someone familiar with the permissions issues you run into on Android when you install software without elevated permissions.

Again you should contact the manufacture and tell them what you did. They might have a patch or have seen the exact same issue before.

Good luck.

I have added on 10 addons on to XBMC it came with none and all of those allowed me to set up there settings even linking them to the internet so The permissions theory Im not sure on It has allowed me to do all the others

I am not trying to set this up for Live TV I just want it to play my recordings in channels format maybe a earlier addition of PTVL will work
Just wanted to say thanks to the PSTVL/Pseudo Library developers. PSTVL is working flawlessly for me first run as well as Pseudo Library.
My local library, USTVNow, direct plugins and Playon are all integrated perfectly now. Donations are on the way.


Thanks again!
(2014-11-18, 20:33)Rickt1962 Wrote: [ -> ]I am not trying to set this up for Live TV I just want it to play my recordings in channels format maybe a earlier addition of PTVL will work

New to PseudoTV Start here.
Hello.

I'm completely new to the XBMC world and installed the latest version of pseudotv yesterday. It's just not for me. Having too many problems issues and really just want to have it uninstalled. I've done everything that I know to uninstall but yet it's still lingering as I still have the red mute button to the right of my tv screen and no audio is coming from any of my movies or video addonns. No sound at all now from my system. Can someone please give me simple steps as to fully uninstall uninstall pseudotv from my system please. I am running a FireTv with Gotham 13.2 if this helps.

(Sorry if I've posted in the incorrect thread. If so, can you please direct me as to where I should post).

Again thanks!
(2014-11-18, 22:16)Marshall Wrote: [ -> ]
(2014-11-18, 20:33)Rickt1962 Wrote: [ -> ]I am not trying to set this up for Live TV I just want it to play my recordings in channels format maybe a earlier addition of PTVL will work

New to PseudoTV Start here.

Got it working ! I figured it had to be the addon I didn't change any of the default settings so I went in and started to turn things off

Went in to the autotune filter turn all off except for TV,Movies,Episodes
Enabled Bumpers
disabled STRM Files and BCT files
Plugin Validation level from low to high

Not sure which one was doing it ! But I am a happy camper now Smile Thank you for the help I will keep reading and update
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