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MPDN is not open source as well. But again, the thing to do is for Video Player work to allow binary addons. Until that time, and I agree with devs on this, there's no point in thinking about Windows only stuff being added to the main development branch.
@ashlar
i also think that picture quality with kodi dsplayer/madvr is better than kodis internal dvd player. but i had kodi dsplayer on a testsystem/pc for work but not on my htpc in my living room. why? because dsplayer was a one-man-show. aracnoz told several times in the past, month ago, that this work is far to much for one person. so i have see this coming what aracnoz is writing in his last post here. the reason he quit his project was he worked 24h a day on this project and has neglect his real life. it has absolutly nothing to do with some "rough" devs here. if you want a better kodi for windows, with features like madvr, this should be done in a way that is accepted and maintained by team kodi because thats the only way that it will "work forever". and fernet menta is one of the devs which is able to do that. and he has startet to do this (see development forum). so please stop hostility here.
Ed76... I'm kind of surprised because I've only been trying to get facts straight. What I post is directly quoted from aracnoz... I feel like I'm posting for nothing if you draw the conclusion of me being hostile to devs for the sake of it. I've been using XBMC/Kodi for ten years, I've always supported it as best as I could. I think there was a chance lost in this case, I might be wrong. But again, aracnoz might have been overworked but he expressed clear will to work within the addon framework once/if it became available.
(2015-11-27, 14:19)ldavet Wrote: [ -> ]I'm very disappointed with this project going back to dormant state because it was a big draw for the Windows user. DVDPlayer's IQ is much inferior to players from competing media center software and DSPlayer helped tip the scale back in Kodi's favor. In fact the only reason I added a dedicated GPU to my HTPC was DSPlayer and now I'm feeling like I've wasted money.

I'm also disappointed because after posts by core devs here it seems Windows users are "second-class" users to them. It's surely difficult to merge forked code back into the main branch, especially when it's so extensive (a whole new player which shares little with DVDPlayer other than interface), but the devs seemed not to have even considered the possibility, after all Windows users are minority so if something can be at its best on Windows it doesn't really matter, right?

I'd expect this kind of behavior from big corporation (in fact I'm used to it, as PC gamer) but from open-source community it's definitely not encouraging and gives the whole project a bad reputation. If Windows matters less to you, then either be honest about it or simply drop support of it. I'm already expecting the broken support of Xbox One controller on Windows 10 to last longer than I expected because I already knew users of Xbox One controllers were a minority but now I learned Windows itself isn't a priority in the Kodi project, much less Windows 10 which has been out for only four months.

Why are Windows users more vocal about bugs they experience? Because they know they're being neglected, after all their problems take longer to fix as it's not the "priority". Wink

If things change in the future I'll come back to Kodi, for now I guess I'll look elsewhere.

Yes, the single active Windows dev is sure neglecting the platform while upgrading it to DX11 and doing a ton of other stuff for it.
Go fuck yourself.
... could we keep the discussion civil?
I'm retiring from this thread for a while. I'm not getting any smarter reading any of this. Feel free to turn off the madVR GUI in Kodi and use external filters to deal with updates to LAV Filters or madVR. This will greatly prolong the life of current DSPlayer builds.

I've noticed madshi has posted several times in the developer's forum. If madVR can be ported into Kodi, he would be the one to negotiate it. Multi-platform Emby has managed to do it, so it is not impossible. Use of madVR is mostly what this bickering is about.
And why not mpv?

Amazing features:

- Mostly all madvr's features like deband, nnedi3, sharpeners and some more.
- It's fully open source and is available on windows, osx and linux.
- It has an amazing documentation for developers and advanced users.
- It can be "easily" integrated inside kodi with its C api.

Some interesting links:

- https://mpv.io
- https://mpv.io/manual/master/
- https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv
- https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/User-Scripts
- https://github.com/haasn/gentoo-conf/blo...v/mpv.conf

Active projects that uses its C api aka libmpv (for developers):

- https://github.com/gnome-mpv/gnome-mpv
- https://github.com/mochi-player/mochi-player/tree/pre
- https://github.com/cmdrkotori/mpc-qt
- https://github.com/plexinc/plex-media-player
I come back here and read 10 fucking pages, I'm stupid, I had forgotten than Kodi is bad for Windows, yeah thanks.
Sorry but Windows 10 can provide me a better experience. My parents are dumb-ass, I can't found a media player all-in-one for them (a fusion with kodi and PotPlayer?)
The problem is not Kodi dev and their choice, Kodi is beautiful for auto-found all movies from IMDB and multi-platform but optimized for Linux (better on arch) and limited on other platforms. If you need best quality than he's not for you.

aracnoz made a great and a nice job but I don't understand her madness , now he made a good decision.

Yeah I'm French and what...?
Warner,

How do we integrate the pdb dsplayer to jarvis beta 2?
(2015-11-28, 00:55)geofred1993 Wrote: [ -> ]And why not mpv?

Amazing features:

- Mostly all madvr's features like deband, nnedi3, sharpeners and some more.
- It's fully open source and is available on windows, osx and linux.
- It has an amazing documentation for developers and advanced users.
- It can be "easily" integrated inside kodi with its C api.

Some interesting links:

- https://mpv.io
- https://mpv.io/manual/master/
- https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv
- https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/User-Scripts
- https://github.com/haasn/gentoo-conf/blo...v/mpv.conf

Active projects that uses its C api (for developers):

- https://github.com/gnome-mpv/gnome-mpv
- https://github.com/mochi-player/mochi-player/tree/pre
- https://github.com/plexinc/plex-media-player

+++++100
Thanks @aracnoz. Smile

#jarvisbeta14ever
MadVR integration or port won't happen. Main reason is it's platform specific and closed source which doesn't go well with Kodi policy.

Actually I think the way forward that would benefit all platfrom would be integrated high quality scaling algorithm such as super-xbr, jinc into Kodi. Subtitles in main kodi could be improved as well.
@aracnoz Thanks for all your hard work --- hopefully you reconsider after some down time as it does appear the backbreaking work integrating is done.

Sad to hear the Kodi Dev's - for whom we wouldn't be here seem and we all own major thanks may have precipitated this.

I for one came to Kodi (used, donated, supported as able, updated some third party software) solely because of dsplayer and I'm sure others did.
Quality of video playback has to be important. (but hey thats not up for me to decide priorities)

Personally I don't care what operating system my HTPCs run - really couldn't care less - I just want the best quality -- and undoubtedly, without argument that was Dsplayer/windows/madVR.

Hopefully we can let the dust settle and see some way forward from here.

Glenn
(2015-11-27, 21:08)Warner306 Wrote: [ -> ]Feel free to turn off the madVR GUI in Kodi and use external filters to deal with updates to LAV Filters or madVR. This will greatly prolong the life of current DSPlayer builds.

This is a good advice but when Jarvis will be in its final release form? We can't go on with Beta1 for ever Sad

If there won't be any twist in this story I think that the best quality will be offered by Kodi + External Player (using madVR) which is ok when whatching but also has many limits...If anyone has a better alternative let me know.

About all this I am just sad about the decision taken by aracnoz but I can understand his feelings. In my opinion Kodi team could really integrate this in Kodi official release and keep on developing it, but that's just my opinion...
(2015-11-28, 00:55)geofred1993 Wrote: [ -> ]And why not mpv?

Amazing features:

- Mostly all madvr's features like deband, nnedi3, sharpeners and some more.
- It's fully open source and is available on windows, osx and linux.
- It has an amazing documentation for developers and advanced users.
- It can be "easily" integrated inside kodi with its C api.

Some interesting links:

- https://mpv.io
- https://mpv.io/manual/master/
- https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv
- https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/User-Scripts
- https://github.com/haasn/gentoo-conf/blo...v/mpv.conf

Active projects that uses its C api (for developers):

- https://github.com/gnome-mpv/gnome-mpv
- https://github.com/mochi-player/mochi-player/tree/pre
- https://github.com/plexinc/plex-media-player

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