2015-05-06, 11:22
Let my first line be; This thread is by no means a whine / accustation thread towards the Foundation. (Let us all try to leave emotions out of the equation.) BUT, I do want to discuss the lack or action / communication.
This thread is a spin off of the VidOn Impression thread, which got closed by the moderators after request of the Topic Starter. However after that, the lock itself has not been respected by the mods itself, migrating the thread into a mod only "monoloque". (As constructive feedback; don't close threads and continue the discussion afterwards)
The original thread can be found here;
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=207004&page=58
Allow me to quote Ned Scott his post and continue from there;
I can see the reasoning about; Keeping at least your side of the deal, but in my opinion; Are you not keep "supporting" a company that breaks the law?
The facts, how I see them. Please prove me wrong if I am.
- The XBMC foundation is a non profit organization registered in the US
- The foundation is the "owner" of the core-code of XBMC/Kodi and therefor holds the license.
- XBMC/Kodi is released under GPL-2 license
- GPL-2 is a "Copyright" license, breaking a copyright in the US is felony. (At least a cival one, most likely even a criminal one)
I understand now that apparently not much is at paper for a diamond sponsor deal. However based on the points above, isn't "breaking the law" cancelling all contracts?
Ofcourse as the foundation is the license holder all above is only valid if the foundation want to pursue it as it being a violations. My main dissapointment of the moment is the lack of action or communication.
In regards of VidOn me that got the whole thing started. They have been taking a piss with you guys for at least 6 months. Users (and not only me) have been reporting this many times. Hence the thread is 58 pages of which maybe only 8 about the product itself.
Any other company would have been on the wall of shame after 3 strikes. Hence even if you give a strike after each month of violation it would have been cut-off 3 months ago. To me it is rather simple. IF you release a binary, you did compile that thing from a source tree. If you have crappy code, or do not want to use any version control software as git, svn whatever, releasing the code could be as simple as zipping the folder and dump it somewhere. That does not have to take 6 months, 3 months hence even not 3 weeks.
To me (and again many others) is looks just plain wrong, that a diamand sponsor can walk away with it because of "a deal".
OK, apparently it all goes down the 18th, but again, why wait ??
Now again, please keep emotions out of the picture (I might have fell into that pitfall myself, but will try to do it as well). Secondly don't jump in aggresively about third party addons, conspiracy theorys etc. I am happy to debate that topic in public with you as well, but the topic is GPL-Violation
This thread is a spin off of the VidOn Impression thread, which got closed by the moderators after request of the Topic Starter. However after that, the lock itself has not been respected by the mods itself, migrating the thread into a mod only "monoloque". (As constructive feedback; don't close threads and continue the discussion afterwards)
The original thread can be found here;
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=207004&page=58
Allow me to quote Ned Scott his post and continue from there;
Quote:That was my assumption as well. As far as I know, their sponsorship has expired, and all of Team Kodi has rejected the idea of renewal. The fact that their logo is still on the website is most likely an oversight, similar to how sourceforce's logo is still on our mirrors pages even though we left sourceforce a looooooong time ago.
Several months ago VidOnMe was "slow" to release their source code. On more than one occasion they even promoted some of the piracy/bootleg add-ons on their twitter account. At that point we made it a clause of all future sponsorships that non-GPL compliance and/or promoting bootleg/pirate add-ons/services would result in removal of sponsorship status. WeTek and MiniX, the only two HTPC hardware venders that are active diamond sponsors right now, have agreed to those terms.
@j1nx I like you, you've always been a nice guy and one of the better groups that have reused XBMC/Kodi. I don't think you deserve the harsh words you have received here from others. I think your assumptions have come from a lack of communication on our part, and we only have ourselves to blame for that.
With all that said, yeah, let's get that VidOnMe logo off our site.
EDIT: Looks like their sponsorship actually expires on May 18th.
I can see the reasoning about; Keeping at least your side of the deal, but in my opinion; Are you not keep "supporting" a company that breaks the law?
The facts, how I see them. Please prove me wrong if I am.
- The XBMC foundation is a non profit organization registered in the US
- The foundation is the "owner" of the core-code of XBMC/Kodi and therefor holds the license.
- XBMC/Kodi is released under GPL-2 license
- GPL-2 is a "Copyright" license, breaking a copyright in the US is felony. (At least a cival one, most likely even a criminal one)
I understand now that apparently not much is at paper for a diamond sponsor deal. However based on the points above, isn't "breaking the law" cancelling all contracts?
Ofcourse as the foundation is the license holder all above is only valid if the foundation want to pursue it as it being a violations. My main dissapointment of the moment is the lack of action or communication.
In regards of VidOn me that got the whole thing started. They have been taking a piss with you guys for at least 6 months. Users (and not only me) have been reporting this many times. Hence the thread is 58 pages of which maybe only 8 about the product itself.
Any other company would have been on the wall of shame after 3 strikes. Hence even if you give a strike after each month of violation it would have been cut-off 3 months ago. To me it is rather simple. IF you release a binary, you did compile that thing from a source tree. If you have crappy code, or do not want to use any version control software as git, svn whatever, releasing the code could be as simple as zipping the folder and dump it somewhere. That does not have to take 6 months, 3 months hence even not 3 weeks.
To me (and again many others) is looks just plain wrong, that a diamand sponsor can walk away with it because of "a deal".
OK, apparently it all goes down the 18th, but again, why wait ??
Now again, please keep emotions out of the picture (I might have fell into that pitfall myself, but will try to do it as well). Secondly don't jump in aggresively about third party addons, conspiracy theorys etc. I am happy to debate that topic in public with you as well, but the topic is GPL-Violation