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RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2018-04-04
For discussion on RGB vs. YCbCr, read this post by madshi: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1271416#post1271416.
Many experienced madVR users set the desktop to 8-bit RGB and leave it there because the quality difference between 8-bits and 10-bits with dithering is very small and hard to notice. But you can start at 8-bits and match the output bit depth for each video frame rate. With AMD, you must do this to get HDR playback. So start at 8-bits, play video and return to the GPU control panel and set it to 10-bits for 23hz. Make sure you are outputting 10-bits during video playback or you will not get HDR passthrough.
As stated, madshi recommends windowed mode in Windows 10 as Windows is moving away from supporting exclusive mode. I think the GPU driver versions are following suit as they are introducing problems. This has happened to me, too.
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Bibio - 2018-04-04
Warner306, i thought that AMD had updated their drivers for HDR switching.
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - mclingo - 2018-04-04
AMD cards have had HDR switching for ages, HDR is one of the things RX cards has been consistently good that, no problems at all with HDR on my RX460, was also fine on my RX550 and RX480 - both with my desktop in 444 8 bit and 420 10 bit modes, i'm currently using 444 8bit.
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2018-04-04
I don't have an AMD GPU, but that is the last I've heard on HDR playback. When AMD HDR support was added, madshi said madVR must output in 10-bits for it to engage HDR mode (so you also have to use a D3D11 presentation path, as well). This is not a problem with Nvidia.
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - mclingo - 2018-04-04
(2018-04-04, 16:34)Warner306 Wrote: I don't have an AMD GPU, but that is the last I've heard on HDR playback. When AMD HDR support was added, madshi said madVR must output in 10-bits for it to engage HDR mode (so you also have to use a D3D11 presentation path, as well). This is not a problem with Nvidia.Hi, yes that is correct, you have to have 10bit enabled in MADVR and use DIRECT3D11 ticked in MADVR, however you can still run your desktop in 8 bit 444bit and it will autoswitch no probs.
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Bibio - 2018-04-04
spencerjford,
you are correct but fail to recognise that the settings are only for when you are using Kodi's built in videoplayer and Kodi's GUI.
if using dsplayer then LAV audio takes over for bitstreaming. as such the use of wasapi for HD audio is null and void.
the problem is that lav audio can hold onto HD codecs after playback exit so we need to force a different mode to get lav audio to "let go" its grasp.
since wasapi can also be used for HD codecs then for some strange reason it recognises an incoming HD codec and takes hold of it when we exit from dsplayer.
so we need to force letting go the "grasp" on hd codecs.
i think it might be a small bug in LAV audio or Kodi's interaction with DSPlayer and or some AVR's. i know that it all causes havoc on my denon avr.
so to be on the safe side its best to set Kodi to use a non HD audio capable driver when using dsplayer for playback.
since we are using kodi-dsplayer+lavfilters+madvr then its a sure bet that we are never going to use videoplayer.
some AVR's dont have "send low signal noise" function to keep such things as "auto standby" off on other connected equipment for which a subwoofer is one of them. so we need to keep the audio device alive that we are using in kodi to sent a low signal to the subwoofer or indeed active speakers etc.etc to stop them going into standby. if you dont want to keep your subwoofer/active speakers alive or your AVR has the same function then turn the setting off in kodi.
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - mclingo - 2018-04-04
to be fair nobody should be using VIDEOPLAYER, should be using DSPLAYER with SANEAR audio renderer.
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2018-04-04
(2018-04-04, 16:41)mclingo Wrote:Didn't know that. The only problem is the GPU is downconverting the output from madVR to 8-bits. So this is not ideal. If you are outputting from madVR at 10-bits, you would want to match this at the GPU or the GPU will undo the work done by madVR. If it is just the desktop we are talking about, then there is no issue.(2018-04-04, 16:34)Warner306 Wrote: I don't have an AMD GPU, but that is the last I've heard on HDR playback. When AMD HDR support was added, madshi said madVR must output in 10-bits for it to engage HDR mode (so you also have to use a D3D11 presentation path, as well). This is not a problem with Nvidia.Hi, yes that is correct, you have to have 10bit enabled in MADVR and use DIRECT3D11 ticked in MADVR, however you can still run your desktop in 8 bit 444bit and it will autoswitch no probs.
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - mclingo - 2018-04-04
pretty sure its just the desktop, shows 10 bit in MADVR dialog, if memory serves, i need to double that that though.
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2018-04-04
(2018-04-04, 17:09)mclingo Wrote: pretty sure its just the desktop, shows 10 bit in MADVR dialog, if memory serves, i need to double that that though.madVR won't report what the GPU is doing. You need to look in the GPU control panel during playback.
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Bibio - 2018-04-04
(2018-04-04, 16:56)mclingo Wrote: to be fair nobody should be using VIDEOPLAYER, should be using DSPLAYER with SANEAR audio renderer.ooooppppssss. i had forgot that most people will be using sanear audio renderer.
my apologies.
but still holds true for the settings in the audio section of kodi. they are only relevant when using videoplayer and kodi gui.
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Bibio - 2018-04-04
question,
what relevancy does the desktop settings have while playing a movie in dsplayer as i'm completely confused as to the interaction.
my understanding at the moment is there is none as madvr + lav video take over during playback in dsplayer. desktop modes are only relevant when you are on your OS desktop or in kodi GUI.
so can someone please explain to me why it matters what your desktop display mode is set to.
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - mclingo - 2018-04-04
it doesnt really matter in KODI DS but it matters with desktop players as they have to come out of one mode and drop back to desktop, KODI DS drops back to gui, if your gui is the same as deskop you should have no issues.
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - mclingo - 2018-04-04
(2018-04-04, 17:32)Warner306 Wrote:i'll need to look at that then, cheers.(2018-04-04, 17:09)mclingo Wrote: pretty sure its just the desktop, shows 10 bit in MADVR dialog, if memory serves, i need to double that that though.madVR won't report what the GPU is doing. You need to look in the GPU control panel during playback.
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Bibio - 2018-04-04
so my assumption is correct.. cool
another question,
can you force chroma subsampling switching within dsplayer and its renderers or filters?
if so how is it done?