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RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - gcmovies - 2020-11-16

Well my fiber optic hdmi brake so i did not have Time to test this week end i'm wondering if it's not because of my HDMI câble that i did not achieve fluide 60hz 4k playback even if i think my GPU is limited because of 100% 3d usage and 1.9/2 GB of vram used.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - spencerjford - 2020-11-17

(2020-11-16, 16:17)gcmovies Wrote: Well my fiber optic hdmi brake so i did not have Time to test this week end i'm wondering if it's not because of my HDMI câble that i did not achieve fluide 60hz 4k playback even if i think my GPU is limited because of 100% 3d usage and 1.9/2 GB of vram used.

4k 60hz is a lot even for the big boy gpu's.. (well last gen)  have to turn off a lot of options to make it work ok.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - JonasStax - 2020-11-17

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/gt-1030/specifications/

https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-video-codec-sdk

https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=318937


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - spencerjford - 2020-11-17

(2020-11-17, 05:41)JonasStax Wrote: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/gt-1030/specifications/

https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-video-codec-sdk

https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=318937

ok yes, I understand all that, but regardless, madvr puts a lot bigger load on the gpu (as would a game).  and think of madvr as one of the hardest to run games on a gpu.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/guide-building-a-4k-htpc-for-madvr.2364113/
read through that.  very informative!


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - JonasStax - 2020-11-18

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/guide-b...r.2364113/

This site is dedicated to video streaming.

A GPU is a specialised microprocessor tailored for manipulating video data via software.

Digital TV, Blu-ray players, digital hard drive recorders, digital video cameras don't rely on a GPU to process digital video. They use digital broadcast standards hardware.

Digital broadcast standards hardware processing is superior to a CPU - GPU combination programmed to mimic digital broadcast standards hardware processing.

20 years ago I was using a RealMagic hardware accelerated MPEG decoder card with a 386 CPU using 5 to 10% CPU processing power to watch uncompressed DVDs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealMagic

https://www.overclockers.com.au/article.php?id=367537&P=2

Forward 20 years.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/guide-b...r.2364113/ is obsolete technology.

If people want to invest in obsolete computer hardware follow the guide, built the system described.

If people want digital broadcast standards hardware decoding, invest in a graphics card implementing digital broadcast standards hardware decoding not software decoding.

https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-video-codec-sdk

NVIDIA GPUs - beginning with the Kepler generation - contain a hardware-based encoder (referred to as NVENC) which provides fully accelerated hardware-based video encoding and is independent of graphics performance. With complete encoding (which is computationally complex) offloaded to NVENC, the graphics engine and the CPU are free for other operations. For example, in a game recording and streaming scenario like streaming to Twitch.tv using Open Broadcaster Software (OBS), encoding being completely offloaded to NVENC makes the graphics engine bandwidth fully available for game rendering. NVENC makes it possible to:

Encode and stream games and applications at high quality and ultra-low latency without utilizing CPU

Encode at very high quality for archiving, OTT streaming, web videos

Encode with ultra-low power consumption per stream (Watts/stream)


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - spencerjford - 2020-11-18

(2020-11-18, 01:04)JonasStax Wrote: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/guide-b...r.2364113/

This site is dedicated to video streaming.

A GPU is a specialised microprocessor tailored for manipulating video data via software.

Digital TV, Blu-ray players, digital hard drive recorders, digital video cameras don't rely on a GPU to process digital video. They use digital broadcast standards hardware.

Digital broadcast standards hardware processing is superior to a CPU - GPU combination programmed to mimic digital broadcast standards hardware processing.

20 years ago I was using a RealMagic hardware accelerated MPEG decoder card with a 386 CPU using 5 to 10% CPU processing power to watch uncompressed DVDs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealMagic

https://www.overclockers.com.au/article.php?id=367537&P=2

Forward 20 years.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/guide-b...r.2364113/ is obsolete technology.

If people want to invest in obsolete computer hardware follow the guide, built the system described.

If people want digital broadcast standards hardware decoding, invest in a graphics card implementing digital broadcast standards hardware decoding not software decoding.

https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-video-codec-sdk

NVIDIA GPUs - beginning with the Kepler generation - contain a hardware-based encoder (referred to as NVENC) which provides fully accelerated hardware-based video encoding and is independent of graphics performance. With complete encoding (which is computationally complex) offloaded to NVENC, the graphics engine and the CPU are free for other operations. For example, in a game recording and streaming scenario like streaming to Twitch.tv using Open Broadcaster Software (OBS), encoding being completely offloaded to NVENC makes the graphics engine bandwidth fully available for game rendering. NVENC makes it possible to:

Encode and stream games and applications at high quality and ultra-low latency without utilizing CPU

Encode at very high quality for archiving, OTT streaming, web videos

Encode with ultra-low power consumption per stream (Watts/stream)

madVR is not an encoder or decoder.  it's a high quality video renderer which requires a much stronger gpu then you have.   if you want simple play back without madVR it's fine.  And you can use one of the newer nightly builds of kodi which has HDR passthrough or better quality HDR to SDR conversion.

it is NOT for streaming.   Building according to the guide will give you better madVR performance.   And that guide is NOT going to tell you to use software (cpu) decoding.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - giulianoprs - 2020-11-18

[font][font]@spencerjfor:[/font][/font]which are nighttime builds of Kodi which has HDR passthrough? thank !!!


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - spencerjford - 2020-11-18

http://mirrors.kodi.tv/releases/windows/win64/kodi-19.0-Matrix_beta1-x64.exe?https=1


not nightly, but beta 1.  if you have hdr capable tv/monitor, you can use that to pass-through hdr to it.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - IT007 - 2020-11-19

I fear the end of Dsplayer usability is closing in. The TVDB Scraper is the only one that really works for me with 17.6 and with that becoming paid service and requiring a new add-on soon, I doubt it will be ported back to older Kodi versions.  I guess using some external meta data manager and local with Kodi could work, but how long until something else important stops working? 

The worst part is, there are still no alternatives that even come close. With regular Kodi video player you lose picture quality and options, with external player like MPC-BE you lose resume points and subtitle searching. Dark times ahead.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - oldpainless - 2020-11-19

Let's hope something comes up - Fingers crossed.....


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - axbmcuser - 2020-11-19

Maybe consider switching to a media manager. Did this a long time ago and would never go back.

https://www.tinymediamanager.org/
https://forum.kodi.tv/forumdisplay.php?fid=204


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - oldpainless - 2020-11-19

Thanks - will take a good look.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - IT007 - 2020-11-19

(2020-11-19, 13:10)axbmcuser Wrote: Maybe consider switching to a media manager. Did this a long time ago and would never go back.

https://www.tinymediamanager.org/
https://forum.kodi.tv/forumdisplay.php?fid=204

Thanks for the tip, I might just do that when TVDB stops working. I imagine the next problem will be subtitle search addons, and then artwork downloaders though I guess this could handle those as well. Still it feels like holding on to something that is inevitably going extinct.

Still using your version of Dsplayer by the way and it works well. 

Of course the dream would be to get a current version but everyone that has tried has given up, so it's probably not going to happen.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - axbmcuser - 2020-11-19

Take your time to get used to the possibilities and configuration functionality of a media manager like TMM.
And maybe keep your hands off the media file renamer functionality at first - unless you really know what you are doing. :-)

I personally don't use any renamer functionality as i like to name new media files myself correctly.
After knowing my typical use case of TMM i really use it in my sleep when adding new media for many years now. Never had any major issues with it.
TMM3 (what i use) is still completely free and should work long enough to check out if you like it.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - ashlar - 2020-11-19

(2020-11-19, 14:58)IT007 Wrote: Of course the dream would be to get a current version but everyone that has tried has given up, so it's probably not going to happen.
I wonder whether the fact that DSPlayer has pretty much kept on working flawlessly for all this time hasn't created a situation where real need for an updated version has been postponed.

Maybe if the situation makes it unusable a developer will rise to the challenge. One can always hope, I guess...