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RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - spencerjford - 2015-04-05 Does this happen on a regular basis or was this a rare incident? Also, was this a black screen on seek or a freeze? [/quote] Fairly often for me. and black screen and freeze. Clicking on the Kodi screen brought up the "wait until unfreezes or close" windows dialog. and debug mode makes on stop freeze happen less often, but nothing in the log ever shows anything. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2015-04-05 The stop freeze is happening to me, too. I think overall stability could be improved. Turning on debugging seems to stop the video from freezing when stopping playback, but can lead to freezes when loading the video - but the freeze on loading happens far less often. The freeze on stop problem is too common to be overlooked, unfortunately. I am using a Nvidia card with 347.88 driver. Driver version 347.52 has the same problem. My Intel HD 3000 is very solid and reliable with only an occasional crash. The black screen might be due to the content. I found 9 movies in my collection of 400 that would break apart (go to a black screen when seeking forward). All but one was an MP4 ripped years ago. Remuxing these files to MKV fixed that problem. Regardless, I intend to send a sample to aracnoz to see if he can fix this. The link to the program I used to fix the black screen is in the first post of the guide I posted. Any problem file can be fixed in a minute or two without changing the audio or the video - only the container is remuxed to an MKV. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2015-04-05 (2015-04-05, 00:59)Cinder Wrote:(2015-04-04, 18:50)Warner306 Wrote: If you can't see the difference in picture quality, turn up your settings. With a GTX 960, you could use NNEDI3 for both chroma and luma, if you wanted. I don't know much about SVP. Is your average rendering queue below the movie frame interval of 41.71 ms? If not, you will have to dial-down your settings. If it is below the rendering queue, then I don't know what the problem could be. I think madVR scaling shines whenever it is asked to do the most work, with the exception of SD material, which will simply display artifacts at times when overscaled to HD resolutions. Using NNEDI3 Luma Doubling from 1080p -> 4K is known to produce very impressive results. Scaling 720p to 1080p also does well. I would test the various scaling algorithms - as long as your graphics cards can handle it - to find something you like. Adding extra taps to Jinc, for example (4 or more), will lead to a sharper image. But some would say it's oversharpened. Using Error Diffusion dithering is also overlooked. In general, the scaling will look its best the more you blow up the image. If you are looking at it on your computer monitor, the image will look less enhanced than the same image shown on a projector screen. Also, changes to the luma (black and white color layer) will be more apparent than changes to the chroma (color layer). This is simply due to the human perception of color. Only your eyes can decide what looks best. Having a powerful graphics card does help, as more settings are available to you. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - oldpoem - 2015-04-05 (2015-04-04, 17:48)Cinder Wrote: Has anyone setup a working DSPlayer + madVR + SVP? I just tried SVP with MadVR on Kod It works fine like on EVR when I tried many months ago. If framedrop occurs most likely your GPU can't keep up with task loads. You should reset SVP profiles to let it determined what is best settings for your system. Also you would want to lower madVR settings if you want to use it with SVP because it double loads on GPU/CPU. You don't need DSPlayer config from SVP at all. Just insert FFDShow RAW as extra filter and that's all you need to make Kodi DSplayer works with SVP. Disabe ato-refresh rate changing in MadVR & Kodi since we want to output everything to 60fps. Also I'd say from my past experience don't use reclock with SVP. Also AVISynth that came with SVP was quite old. You may want to update it to latest version and maybe AVISynthMT version for better performance. Cinder Wrote:I tried NNEDI3 on my desktop (trying to find my preferred settings before migrating them to HTPC), and indeed I can see some improvements when switching back to "nearest neighbor" for instance. Differences between the other algorithms are really hard for me to spot, say between Jinc and NNEDI33. I tested this on a very low res video though (512x384), which leaves me wondering - which resolutions does madVR really shine at 720p upscaling to 1080p? You will definitely see improvement when compared to simple algorithm, Nearest Neighbor / Bilinear. But when compared to other more complex algorithm it will be a lot less improvement. Especially when less amount of scaling is needed. Decided by your eyes. Don't trust other's eyes, some like it sharp some says it's too sharp. Our visual preference is different. Just like when some prefer normal fps but some prefer interpolated 60fps from SVP. On 1080p you would see less differences. Especially with SVP. SVP algorithm already do some post processing like cleanup /denoise / sharpening etc. I'd say I sometimes miss this smooth 60fps especially on Animation. Maybe I'd try to set up profiles for it. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2015-04-05 I watched some content this evening and found a temporary fix for content that was freezing when stopped. Setting Kodi to adjust refresh rate to the display forced a refresh rate change from 24hz -> 60hz that caused the videos to stop normally. I've had lip-sync drifting with my display at 24hz, so don't use refresh rate changing on a regular basis, but will continue to do so until this issue is fixed. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - oldpoem - 2015-04-05 (2015-04-05, 07:03)Warner306 Wrote: I watched some content this evening and found a temporary fix for content that was freezing when stopped. Setting Kodi to adjust refresh rate to the display forced a refresh rate change from 24hz -> 60hz that caused the videos to stop normally. I've had lip-sync drifting with my display at 24hz, so don't use refresh rate changing on a regular basis, but will continue to do so until this issue is fixed. I use it all the time for years with DSPlayer. No problem here with KodiMadVR. Maybe you have problematic files? Also as I've said, disable madVR refresh rate changingm and use only Kodi built-in seems to be better in my experience. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2015-04-05 Yes, for now I am sticking with 24hz. I seem to have ideal lip-sync after trying many combinations with many players. But I could find some content that isn't in sync in the near future. That has happened before. This combination seems to work:
RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2015-04-05 I added a Troubleshooting Tips section to the guide posted with the fix above and other corrections for current known issues. I'll add to it in the future. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - MagikMark - 2015-04-05 For reclock users with lipsync issues try using 25ms for the "sound pre buffer" It minimizes the problem RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - spencerjford - 2015-04-05 (2015-04-05, 02:05)Warner306 Wrote: The stop freeze is happening to me, too. I think overall stability could be improved. Turning on debugging seems to stop the video from freezing when stopping playback, but can lead to freezes when loading the video - but the freeze on loading happens far less often. The freeze on stop problem is too common to be overlooked, unfortunately. all the files I have tested have been MKV. But i just updated to hotfix driver 350.05. I'll turn madVR back and see what happens. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - ashlar - 2015-04-05 (2015-04-04, 13:58)vicmanpergar Wrote:Don't worry, you've got that right. When I say "old" plasma monitor I kinda mean that. I'm talking about a professional model, dated 2005. It was 1366x768 and to get 1:1 pixel mapping via VGA connection (the only connection that allowed 1:1 pixel mapping, by the way) you needed special timings, which madshi discovered.(2015-04-04, 12:01)ashlar Wrote: Thanks to madshi, which is making my life happier since getting 1:1 pixel mapping on my old Panasonic 50" plasma monitor. Hats off to you. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - vicmanpergar - 2015-04-05 (2015-04-05, 11:55)ashlar Wrote:(2015-04-04, 13:58)vicmanpergar Wrote:Don't worry, you've got that right. When I say "old" plasma monitor I kinda mean that. I'm talking about a professional model, dated 2005. It was 1366x768 and to get 1:1 pixel mapping via VGA connection (the only connection that allowed 1:1 pixel mapping, by the way) you needed special timings, which madshi discovered.(2015-04-04, 12:01)ashlar Wrote: Thanks to madshi, which is making my life happier since getting 1:1 pixel mapping on my old Panasonic 50" plasma monitor. Hats off to you. That gives me peace, lol Thanks RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Cinder - 2015-04-05 (2015-04-05, 02:13)Warner306 Wrote: I don't know much about SVP. Is your average rendering queue below the movie frame interval of 41.71 ms? If not, you will have to dial-down your settings. If it is below the rendering queue, then I don't know what the problem could be. Yes, my average rendering happens at 12ms, but the max stat over 5 seconds is at about 120ms. I've played around on my desktop PC now, so I might start to take this over to my HTPC and see if the results are better over there, and especially to see if I get the same kind of frame dropping. I will definitely be trying your suggestions. (2015-04-05, 05:56)oldpoem Wrote: I just tried SVP with MadVR on Kod It works fine like on EVR when I tried many months ago. If framedrop occurs most likely your GPU can't keep up with task loads. You should reset SVP profiles to let it determined what is best settings for your system. Also you would want to lower madVR settings if you want to use it with SVP because it double loads on GPU/CPU. I keep getting frame drops (about 1/sec) no matter what algorithm I choose - even with "Nearest neighbor". This occurs when I set the playback into exclusive mode with a 720p video playing in this case. What else can I lower in madVR to increase performance? I dont know much about Avisynth, can I just install a newer version over an old one, or does it need setting up? (2015-04-05, 05:56)oldpoem Wrote: You will definitely see improvement when compared to simple algorithm, Nearest Neighbor / Bilinear. But when compared to other more complex algorithm it will be a lot less improvement. Especially when less amount of scaling is needed. I definitely have a hard time seeing differences between the custom algorithms, I did however get really good results playing with FFDShow's sharpening to combat the slight blurryness that SVP may result in. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - hentai23 - 2015-04-05 (2015-04-04, 03:49)oldpoem Wrote:(2015-04-04, 02:38)hentai23 Wrote: i was hoping for a ffdshow less option , since i dont use ffdshow for anything else since lav filters does it all...except the audio leveling like what potplayers audiocodec/transform does i see well thanks for clearing that up ill get to ffdshow as audio processor immediately then and an update on the GUI lag ...well according to this thread according to nevcairiel having kodi use a seperate renderer for the OSD elements would fix any said lag , i recon this would be the way to go since any other method such as lowering gpu queue introduces dropped frames in your playback and even then the lowest gpu queue could go is 4 and thats still 4 frames of OSD lag not to mention it about breaks madvr aka tons of dropped frames plus broken deinterlacing galore , not good , apparently zoomplayer uses a algorithm with madvr that fixes the OSD lag , that potplayer nor kodi can do according to him check out both posts by huhn and nevcairiel here , http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1716167#post1716167 i knew this wouldnt be a easy fix , damn it RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2015-04-06 (2015-04-05, 19:30)Cinder Wrote: I definitely have a hard time seeing differences between the custom algorithms, I did however get really good results playing with FFDShow's sharpening to combat the slight blurryness that SVP may result in. If using FFDShow to do the image resizing, then I don't think any of the custom algorithms will do much of anything. Either FFDShow does the resizing or madVR. |