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Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - Borg-101 - 2017-04-20

How about a live tile that flips through recent episodes and/or movies like other apps?

Also, I was reading about stability issues with the Kodi win10 app but I have yet to see it. I've been running it a week now and it's been going smooth.

RE: Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - nickr - 2017-04-20

I have a page on kodi that shows me recently added episodes.

RE: Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - Borg-101 - 2017-04-20

(2017-04-20, 22:43)nickr Wrote: I have a page on kodi that shows me recently added episodes.

As a live tile in the start menu? I don't see that on mine.

RE: Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - nickr - 2017-04-21

I don't know wtf a live tile is, where do you see them in the kodi interface?

Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - Memphiz - 2017-04-21

Its a windows feature afaik outside of kodi

RE: Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - jjd-uk - 2017-04-21

At the moment the Windows app is a converted version of the desktop app, thus we can not make use of UWP API's and I suspect the live tile you talk about most likely uses a UWP API, unless you know of another desktop app that does similar to what you want from Kodi. There is an attempt to port Kodi to be a true UWP app in progress and if successful that will allow us to access all the UWP API's.

RE: Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - RockerC - 2017-04-21

"Live Tiles" in Windows looks to be a notification system that is part of UWP API, they are used to display information that are useful at a glance without opening an app:

https://www.tutorialspoint.com/windows10_development/windows10_development_live_tiles.htm
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/controls-and-patterns/tiles-badges-notifications
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/controls-and-patterns/tiles-and-notifications-creating-tiles
(2017-04-21, 12:23)jjd-uk Wrote: At the moment the Windows app is a converted version of the desktop app, thus we can not make use of UWP API's and I suspect the live tile you talk about most likely uses a UWP API, unless you know of another desktop app that does similar to what you want from Kodi.
"Live Tiles" is an essential part of MetroUI and have existed since Windows 8 (or even Windows RT and Windows Phone 7), so they are not something new for Windows 10.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7442760/how-are-live-tiles-made-in-windows-8

The above thread on Stackoverflow suggest to look at Microsoft sample apps:

https://code.msdn.microsoft.com/windowsapps/Windows-8-Modern-Style-App-Samples/

I guess that for Kodi's part they should work almost exactly like the Leanback recommendations support for Android TV which was recently added to Kodi?

https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/11901
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=235999
https://developer.android.com/training/tv/discovery/recommendations.html

RE: Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - nickr - 2017-04-21

Ok windows only, however kodi is a cross platform application so this is not a likely extension to kodi. However it seems like a good addon candidate. Is there a published python interface to this api?

RE: Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - Paxxi - 2017-04-21

(2017-04-20, 18:51)Borg-101 Wrote: How about a live tile that flips through recent episodes and/or movies like other apps?

Also, I was reading about stability issues with the Kodi win10 app but I have yet to see it. I've been running it a week now and it's been going smooth.
A live tile would be cool and I hope to get more time to explore some of the win10 features we can use for some bonus stuff.

Yes, we do avoid platform specific features as best we can. Something like this however is part of making the app feel native to the platform which is something we do,android is probably the biggest example of this.

RE: Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - Borg-101 - 2017-04-23

Thanks for all the responses guys. I appreciate it.

RE: Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - da-anda - 2017-04-24

hehe, the first thing I turned completely off in Win10 are live tiles Smile

RE: Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - RockerC - 2017-04-25

(2017-04-21, 13:43)nickr Wrote: Ok windows only, however kodi is a cross platform application so this is not a likely extension to kodi. However it seems like a good addon candidate. Is there a published python interface to this api?
I disagree that this specific feature should be an addon, as I believe that just like Leanback recommendations support for Android TV some platform specific functions needs to be a native core function of Kodi for them to function properly and as expected on that platform.

It is naive to think that Kodi will always function exactly the same no matter what hardware and operating-system it runs on. If it did then it would be very hard for developers to make progress on any platform.

Quote from http://kodi.wiki/view/Team_Kodi_manifesto :
Quote:Try to make all code, feature, and functions to be platform agnostic - Kodi is a multi-platform software, thus any single platform specific features should be discussed with other team members before implemented.
Yes Kodi is an cross-platform application but that does not mean that it can not have some platform specific features to make it feel and act like a native application on all platforms that it is supported on. Even if Kodi at its core still look and feel like Kodi should on all platforms.

Each operating-system and hardware platform will always have a few unique features and quirks, and that is not nessesarly a bad thing as though competition breeds innovation.

Other examples are stuff like:
  • Different hot-keys (for example Windows logo key vs Mac command key).
  • Different hardware video decoding capabilities on different VPU/GPU chips.
  • Audio pass-through / bit-streaming and hardware audio decoding capabilities on different OSes and HW.
  • DRM (Digital Rights Management) relying on underlying OS system services
  • Speech-to-text relying on underlying OS system services (ex. https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/11978 )
  • Text-to-speech relying on underlying OS system services


RE: Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - Borg-101 - 2017-04-26

(2017-04-24, 08:29)da-anda Wrote: hehe, the first thing I turned completely off in Win10 are live tiles Smile

I can appreciate that. I used to too. Now I enjoy it though. I start Windows 10 in "tablet mode" with huge tiles, most of them "live" flipping through various recently added programming. For my kids, my wife, and myself it serves as kind of a visual program guide. The HTPC comes on from a sleep (when in sleep it goes back to the "start" screen) and shows me programming that potentially interests me. Plus it's pretty impressive to our family members when they come over.

RE: Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - MKANET - 2017-08-01

I was looking for live tiles as well. It seems kind of expected with modern apps on the Windows store.

RE: Windows 10 Kodi App rocks.....but....... - nickr - 2017-08-01

The windows version of Kodi also runs on win 7/8/maybe something older. So it won't necessarily support something that is just for 10.