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- Jezz_X - 2008-07-05
Thanks added as well as the polish one I got there as well
- SmokeySlim - 2008-07-07
Hey,
First off i really love this skin! I've been using vision (1) for over an year now and i've been on the lookout for a skin that's even more to my liking and haven't been able to find it untill i found this thread. So kudo's to you guys!
However this skin isn't completed yet and i've found some things that i didn't like about it. And these might already be known to you, or i might have overlooked something so if i did please point it out to me because i'd love to use this skin to its fullest
1) There is no option available to auto play a music playlist. This was so in the previos Vision skin and a lot of other skins and i really, really love that option!
2) There are no rss feeds shown on the home page. Also an option you had in the previos skin and also one i find very usefull cos when im listening to music i can't watch the news and i have a few feeds that can keep me updated
3) Whenever you change of a page like from the home screen to the music library or music file list. Or from the movie file screen to the home screen or from the home screen to the settings screen, scripts screen well okay you get it, whenever you change from any page to another page. Okay where was I.. Whenever you change from page to page the xbox 'hangs' for just a 0.1 or 0.3 seconds. I think that the reason is because whenever you change a page whatever is playing in the background (movie or visualisation) it reloads whatever is playing there. When you're playing a movie for instance the screen and sounds stops for a moment and then continues. What made me notice that it gets reloaded though is when you have the visualisation on. Whenever you change a page with the vis on the music keeps on playing however, the visualisation changes just like when you go from the home screen to the full screen visualisation.
So that might be the cause of the slowdown.
4) The menu you have for fullscreen visualisations and movies is kinda crappy. I know its being used in a few other skins however there are a few isssues with it. For instance, I have to guess what option is for what by trial and error since its hard to make out the icons of it. Also there is no subs or lyrics link in it wich i really, really like of the vision 1 skin.
5) On the main page in the run submenu's my favorite script's don't get added and also there is no other hot link to favorites other then when going to the leave menu and select it there. I'd really love an favorites menu on the main page with just an touch of the button as you had in the previos skin aswell. It's really handy!
6) Also the main page. I'd really love if i could change or add items to the submenu's. This kind of customization would really up the value of the nice menu on main page!
7) There is no album or movie cover on the main page! This is also a thing i loved of the previous skin and really was the foremost reason for me to get nice thumb's for all my albums and movies.
8) There is no song or movie information shown in the home screen. It could be you didn't add it because you'd not want the home screen to be messy however i found the option really to my liking on the vision (1) skin.
9) I can put update library to back-ground only and update whenever i boot my xbox. However with the music library i can only put it to whenever i boot. I like it when that kind of stuff happens on the background because i can still watch a movie when it happens and i know it will happen everytime i start my xbox. So please could you also add an option for running the music library update to the background?
Ofcourse there are also a couple of things i really, really like about this skin
1) Really great skinning! It looks sleek, clear and neat! It's not chaotic, menus look great and have a really good overview and make the information you want really pop out!
2) The home screen is a piece of art on itself! I love how the menu bar is made again it's really easy to use and you can see in a blink of an eye what's in the menu and what submenu's there are. Also the changing backgrounds are really sweet!
3) Point 3 is also for the home screen simply because it's worth it's own point
I love the lay-out! You guys have shown pure genious on this one.4) Settings everywhere, easy to access and easy to secure! I love this, thisway i don't have to search trough 4-5 menu's to find the right settings page and it's all just 1 push of a button away!
5) In full visualisation and full screen movie playing i like really like the progress bar and album cover and where it's put. It looks really sleek and proffessional
6) The Movie library: WOW! You guy's have really done it! It's awesome!!! On the left hand the movie info, in the middle a big ass poster and on the left the movies. What an layout and not to say about the artwork! Nice!
7) The Music library: WOW! Another piece of art! Just as great as the movie library but with the music info on the left hand with the cover and on the right hand the albums and such. Amazing!
Well all in all it's a really great skin and to my opinion the best there is currently out there! You guys are doing a really great job and i'd love for this skin to be finished! Oh and also you guys shouldn't underestimate the usage of your skin because it's added to a lot of xbmc packs like bigfoot87's and such, i know a bunch of guys who all still use vision 1 and some have also switched over to vision 2 already
Thanks for your work guys, you're the best!
- SmokeySlim - 2008-07-07
Oh and also, i've you'd like for more people to use this skin you should add the download or svn link to the first post if possible
- xb2iris - 2008-07-07
Anyway, you guys can implement a similar view to "Video" for games. Obviously, just the huge poster with a list on the right... That would be something!!!!!
Just an idea, not a request... don't want to increase your workload in anyway...
- dynamix - 2008-07-08
What a fantastic and professional looking skin this is! I've been using it for a few days now... i'm in love
I have two things that haven't been noticed:
- On the main menu i'm missing a "now playing" list when listening to a radiostation.
- I have to ditch my CRT tube... this skin deserves a HDTV!
- dynamix - 2008-07-08
What a fantastic and professional looking skin this is! I've been using it for a few days now... i'm in love
I have two things that haven't been noticed:
- On the main menu i'm missing a "now playing" list when listening to a radiostation.
- People using a CRT tube are forced to ditch it... this skin deserves a HDTV!
- dynamix - 2008-07-08
Excuse me for double post... i thought i was editing it. It seems editing isn't possible here.
- MikeBeecham - 2008-07-08
dynamix Wrote:- People using a CRT tube are forced to ditch it... this skin deserves a HDTV!
I completely disagree....I have a 16x9 SD TV and it works fine for me. The recent changes to text resizing means that everything is easily viewable.
If you have a SD 4x3 then you might have troubles, but 16x9 is fine.
Skin problem on 1024x768 TVs - Hitcher - 2008-07-08
I'm posting this in two places because I think it's not merely a skin problem but something that may need addressing in the non-Xbox builds of XBMC so feel free to delete one or the other.
Firstly some screens to show you the problem.
TV Shows on Xbox set to 720p -
TV Shows on PC set to 1024x768 -
Music Files on Xbox set to 720p -
Music Files on PC set to 1024x768 -
Both the Xbox and PC are connected to a widescreen plasma TV with a resolution of 1024x768. I think the problem stems from the fact that XBMC sees the resolution of 1024x768 as being for a 4:3 monitor with a PAR of 1:1 whereas that resolution on a TV has a PAR of 1:33.
I tried to set XBMC to 'Widescreen' in the System Settings but it's been removed.
Would adding this option back in sort the problem out or is it matter of adding more resolutions to the build?
eg 1024x768 (4:3), 1024x768 (16:9), etc.
Or adding some option to the skins themselves?
- mcfreiz - 2008-07-08
[quote=MikeBeecham]I completely disagree....I have a 16x9 SD TV and it works fine for me. The recent changes to text resizing means that everything is easily viewable.
what text changes have been made?
- dynamix - 2008-07-08
MikeBeecham Wrote:I completely disagree....I have a 16x9 SD TV and it works fine for me. The recent changes to text resizing means that everything is easily viewable.
If you have a SD 4x3 then you might have troubles, but 16x9 is fine.
I agree that this skin is also perfect for a widescreen CRT. What i meant was that Vision2 viewed on a HDTV is even more astonishing
- Jezz_X - 2008-07-09
Hitcher Wrote:I'm posting this in two places because I think it's not merely a skin problem but something that may need addressing in the non-Xbox builds of XBMC so feel free to delete one or the other.
.......
Both the Xbox and PC are connected to a widescreen plasma TV with a resolution of 1024x768. I think the problem stems from the fact that XBMC sees the resolution of 1024x768 as being for a 4:3 monitor with a PAR of 1:1 whereas that resolution on a TV has a PAR of 1:33.
I tried to set XBMC to 'Widescreen' in the System Settings but it's been removed.
Would adding this option back in sort the problem out or is it matter of adding more resolutions to the build?
eg 1024x768 (4:3), 1024x768 (16:9), etc.
Or adding some option to the skins themselves?
Well you hit the nail on the head there its because the pc version thinks that resolution is a 4x3 one (which it is) and the skin is scaling it graphics as needed you would need to take it up with the win32/linux devs to maybe add in a toggle to the appearnce screen for Force (None,4x3,16x9) nothing I can really do.
- Hitcher - 2008-07-09
Thanks for the reply.
Why is it doing this when this skin only has a 720p (16:9) folder though?
Also what part of the forum should I ask for this feature to be considered?
- kraqh3d - 2008-07-09
I think its a combination of things. Xbmc is scaling the skin to fit in a 4x3 format for 1024x768 with a 1:1 square pixel aspect ratio, but your tv is "expanding" the image because the pixels cannot be square on a 1024x768 at 16:9. Outside of Xbmc, does your computer desktop look a little "off" as well? (It'll be more pronounced in Xbmc because of how its scaling the skin as well.)
- Hitcher - 2008-07-09
Yeah my desktop is stretched but I only really use this PC for XBMC anyway. Like Jezz said videos playback fine because I've calibrated the screen for 1:333 PAR. The strange thing is AEON doesn't do any of this and I thought Vision2 would be OK because there's only the 720p folder and no sign of seperate 16:9 and 4:3 folders.