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- eskro - 2011-07-22 02:54

Powerfull build scphantm!

Keep us up to date Tongue


- bluray - 2011-07-22 04:00

scphantm Wrote:well, i started with this, changed a few components (different case, PS, and an xfx version of the video card), we will see how it goes

1 x ($64.99) HTPC CASE XION| XON-810PCB-RD R $64.99

1 x ($74.99) MB MSI| 880GM-E41 880G R $74.99
The red Xion is sexy...if you add $20 more, you can get this- ASUS M4A88TD-M/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard with usb 3.0. It is so much faster than usb 2.0. It'll be very powerful htpc!


- joeranjensen - 2011-07-22 11:05

Thanks for the reply

Quote:That GT430 wont fit in that case!!
HeatSink is wayyy to big!!
I'd go with this one instead ---> http://ow.ly/1uQELA
Or even those GT520 cards will eat 3D 1080P --> http://ow.ly/1uQFA9 or http://ow.ly/1uQFDO
check if it they all come with low profile brackets!!

which of those three cards you suggest will be the most qietest one, and what is the advantages with the most expensive vs the cheapest card? And all those three cards will fit in the case in my shoppinglist? What about the APEX MI-008, what cards will/wont fit in that case?

NOOBquestion: How do I se if they come with low profile brackets?

Quote:other then that,
2GB (2x1GB) of RAM is enough for Win7 --> http://ow.ly/1uQVD3
dont forget that the GT430 or GT520 already have onboard memory too....
So it adds up!
no real needs for 4GB (2x2GB) of ram,,,,

OH yeah, i would decrease the CPU too...
Altho its a fantastic processor, hence why its in my builds,
i would get a PENTIUM G620 --> http://ow.ly/1uQUGr !!
It'll eat anything thrown at it
including the famous heavy AEON MQ2 skin in FULL MODE!!!!!!!!

RAM and CPU decreasedSmile

Quote:Oh yeah and,
another popular miniITX case is the Ace Polly --> http://ow.ly/1uQVX9
About same shape as the APEX MI-008
and will accept regular 5.25" Bluray Optical Drive!
while the ANTEC will only accept slim Bluray Optical Drives...
and if u never shop'ed around for a slim one,
you'll see how much pricey they are :/

Ive red that the Ace Polly case is a bit noisy so Im skeptical to that one, but I realy like the APEX MI-008. I dont think I will need a bluerayplayer in the htpc as Sickbeard and Couchpotato downloads everything I need to my NAS, but thanks for the tip!

Quote:Finally, no need for additional fans..

So you dont think that I can decrease the noise level if I replace original fans with "silent fans"?


- scphantm - 2011-07-22 14:32

eskro Wrote:Powerfull build scphantm!

Keep us up to date Tongue

yea, thats what i wanted. one thing i learned a long time ago with MAME, there is no such thing as too much hardware.


- scphantm - 2011-07-22 14:35

joeranjensen Wrote:NOOBquestion: How do I se if they come with low profile brackets?

i just always cut them myself. if the card clears and the connector clears, i just get a pair of tin snips, cut it off and bend a new tab down with a pair of pliers. do it all the time with network cards.


- joeranjensen - 2011-07-22 16:34

scphantm Wrote:i just always cut them myself. if the card clears and the connector clears, i just get a pair of tin snips, cut it off and bend a new tab down with a pair of pliers. do it all the time with network cards.

Ok, so thats no big dealSmile thanks for the tip! lolLaugh


- bluray - 2011-07-22 16:54

joeranjensen Wrote:Ok, so thats no big dealSmile thanks for the tip! lolLaugh
Check the seller package- some manufactures included low profile bracket in the package. If it is not included, you can easily buy one or cut the logner bracket to fit. If you decide to cut it, I'm recomending removing it from the card first before cutting it. It'll prevent from disturbing the solder joins during cutting, and it'll prevent ESD damage too.


- eskro - 2011-07-22 18:59

joeranjensen Wrote:How do I se if they come with low profile brackets?

well its usually written somewhere Tongue
you just have to read/search
Hard for me, im not Norwegian :/

Overall, i'd go for this card --> http://ow.ly/1uQFDO
FanLess = No Noise

joeranjensen Wrote:RAM and CPU decreasedSmile

Marvelous!!

joeranjensen Wrote:I realy like the APEX MI-008

Well, did you find a seller that can ship it to you ??
Because in that case, and even the Ace Polly,
the FanLess GT520 will fit in them!

joeranjensen Wrote:So you dont think that I can decrease the noise level if I replace original fans with "silent fans"?

Answer is, Yes!
Example the Ace Polly,
you can replace its 80mm fan with a super quiet one!


- joeranjensen - 2011-07-22 23:56

Quote:Check the seller package- some manufactures included low profile bracket in the package. If it is not included, you can easily buy one or cut the logner bracket to fit. If you decide to cut it, I'm recomending removing it from the card first before cutting it. It'll prevent from disturbing the solder joins during cutting, and it'll prevent ESD damage too.

Il keep that in mindSmile
Quote:well its usually written somewhere Tongue
you just have to read/search
Hard for me, im not Norwegian :/

Of courseSmile I couldnt find anything about it. Maybe Il just give them a call.
Quote:Overall, i'd go for this card --> http://ow.ly/1uQFDO
FanLess = No Noise

Beautiful!! Im a big fan of No Noise

Quote:Well, did you find a seller that can ship it to you ??
Because in that case, and even the Ace Polly,
the FanLess GT520 will fit in them!

Yes, another Norwegian store can ship it to meSmile Even cheaper than the first case I considered. Do the Fanless GT250 need to be low profiled to fit in that case?


- eskro - 2011-07-23 00:03

not really but be careful to the heatSinkFan,,,
it must not be too wide...


- joeranjensen - 2011-07-23 12:26

Just another question. What if I choose a IntelĀ® Core™ i3-2100T Processor? That processor has integrated gpu and I guess it would make the htpc more silent, or am I wrong? but what would I be able to play without a dedicated graphics card?
If I can play full hd mkvs smooth, I think that should be fine for now. Then I could just add a dedicated graphics card for 3d the day I need it

http://ark.intel.com/compare/53423,53480


- Superorb - 2011-07-23 18:05

joeranjensen Wrote:Just another question. What if I choose a IntelĀ® Core™ i3-2100T Processor? That processor has integrated gpu and I guess it would make the htpc more silent, or am I wrong? but what would I be able to play without a dedicated graphics card?
If I can play full hd mkvs smooth, I think that should be fine for now. Then I could just add a dedicated graphics card for 3d the day I need it

http://ark.intel.com/compare/53423,53480
I asked this before, and I was told that the Sandy Bridge integrated graphics will not work for HD content and that a dedicated graphics card was required, be it an ION or similar.


- eskro - 2011-07-23 18:18

Not true Tongue

i3-2100's built-in video which can play FUll 1080P blurays!
It even bitstreams Hd-Audio and i believe it plays 3D movies too!

As much as i wanted to go the i3 video route,
i cant,,, i3 video has issues with 23.967fps content...
it'll always output it to 24fps...
which causes stutter on movies which have 23.967fps...

it doesnt play nice with XBMC either,,,
its been talked alot in another thread,
reports say that there's a macro-blocking issue....
however, some have managed to bring that issue to a low but,
i dont believe its currently %100 fixable,,,

And just letting you know that AMD also now has its own CPU with built-in video!
those CPU's are referred to as Advanced Processing Units (APU)...
CPU + GPU = APU
Example --> http://ow.ly/1uTuCL


- joeranjensen - 2011-07-23 18:32

eskro Wrote:Not true Tongue

i3-2100's built-in video which can play FUll 1080P blurays!
It even bitstreams Hd-Audio and i believe it plays 3D movies too!

As much as i wanted to go the i3 video route,
i cant,,, i3 video has issues with 23.967fps content...
it'll always output it to 24fps...
which causes stutter on movies which have 23.967fps...

it doesnt play nice with XBMC either,,,
its been talked alot in another thread,
reports say that there's a macro-blocking issue....
however, some have managed to bring that issue to a low but,
i dont believe its currently %100 fixable,,,

And just letting you know that AMD also now has its own CPU with built-in video!
those CPU's are referred to as Advanced Processing Units (APU)...
CPU + GPU = APU
Example --> http://ow.ly/1uTuCL

To badSad So to avoid any trouble I still want to go for the Gainward GeForce GT 520 I guess


- eskro - 2011-07-23 18:35

yes, that avoids any possible issues...