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How to Power ON/OFF your HTPC using a Remote?
(2014-06-22, 16:46)-DDD- Wrote:
(2014-06-22, 14:53)marck120 Wrote: the asrock Asrock H81TM-ITX is the only motherboard with socket 1150 which has the connector at the CIR. From what I understand the CIR receivers are universal, should be compatible with any motherboard.

Thats not true:
http://geizhals.de/?cat=mbp4_1150&xf=494...ers#xf_top
http://www.xbmcnerds.com/index.php?page=...8&pageNo=1
(if you speak German)

No, CIR Reciever like
http://www.voelkner.de/products/27327/IR...-4838.html
http://geizhals.de/conrad-electronic-ir-...21128.html
http://www.cohaus-berlin.de/shop/RC6-Inf...1::86.html

Need an CIR Port on your Mainboard, which you can find on some Intel, Asrock and Biostar Boards.

(2014-06-22, 14:24)marck120 Wrote: About asrock USB IR receiver I saw that some users have had problems: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=128907&page=2
Where are the Problems there?

Excuse me, unfortunately I do not speak English

Yes, this is the motherboard I chose: http://geizhals.de/asrock-h81tm-itx-90-m...59432.html, size mini itx, socket 1150 model there is only this: http://geizhals.de/?cat=mbp4_1150&xf=494...0_7#xf_top


Regarding the CIR receiver the three models that you suggested are compatible with a remote control to use with xbmc ? Which remote does it take ?

What are the differences between this model: http://www.cohaus-berlin.de/shop/RC6-Inf...1::86.html and this ? http://www.amazon.de/dp/B003A5ZQB0/ref=a...B003A5ZQB0 There are also other models ? However, it is also possible to order these products from 'Italy ?
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Yes, for miniITX there is only this Board and the Baytrail one:
http://geizhals.de/?cat=mbson&xf=3760_In...900#xf_top

What Remote do you want to use?
I don't know what differences are between cohaus and the one from voelkner.
I also don't know if you can order it from Italy, but i think you have conrad.it?
http://www.conrad.it/ce/it/product/17111...archDetail
http://www.conrad.it/ce/it/product/18181...ad-IR-R-36
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(2014-06-22, 18:41)-DDD- Wrote: Yes, for miniITX there is only this Board and the Baytrail one:
http://geizhals.de/?cat=mbson&xf=3760_In...900#xf_top

What Remote do you want to use?
I don't know what differences are between cohaus and the one from voelkner.
I also don't know if you can order it from Italy, but i think you have conrad.it?
http://www.conrad.it/ce/it/product/17111...archDetail
http://www.conrad.it/ce/it/product/18181...ad-IR-R-36


Thank you so much for the availability, very kind.

I had not noticed the motherboard Baytrail, I prefer the ASRock H81TM-ITX + CPU i3 4130, for a media center system is more powerful, and supports 3D files.

Excuse me, I noticed a particular receiver IR receiver 36 kHz 950 nm only has 3 wires, a red wire, black and white. http://www.conrad.it/ce/it/product/18181...ad-IR-R-36 The 4 pin connector at the CIR instead, why ? http://www.imagebam.com/image/25bd31334627075. This CIR receiver instead you have a lot more cables, why ? http://www.cohaus-berlin.de/shop/RC6-Inf...1::86.html

Regarding the remote, I need one that is compatible with XBMC, something good build quality, which obviously has a good reception. Which model do you recommend ? And any compatible MCE remote control ?
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You don't need more than 4 Cables, the cohaus one take an simply USB Cable i think, they aren't all used.
Here you see that only 3 are really used:
http://www.mce-community.de/forum/index....ntry365698

Quote:- CIR-Empfänger "Gnd" (schwarzes Kabel) auf ASRock "Gnd" Pin
- CIR-Empfänger "5V-Standby" (rotes Kabel) auf ASRock "ATX+5Vsb" Pin

- CIR-Empfänger "LED" (weiß Kabel) auf ASRock "IRtx" Pin
- CIR-Empfänger "CIR Input" (grünes Kabel) auf ASRock "IRrx" Pin

Gnd, 5V, and CIR Input/IRRX, the 4th is for the LED Feedback, you don't need it.

I think a Logitech Harmony would be fine for you. Take one which fit best for you in your local Store.
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(2014-06-22, 20:51)-DDD- Wrote: You don't need more than 4 Cables, the cohaus one take an simply USB Cable i think, they aren't all used.
Here you see that only 3 are really used:
http://www.mce-community.de/forum/index....ntry365698

Quote:- CIR-Empfänger "Gnd" (schwarzes Kabel) auf ASRock "Gnd" Pin
- CIR-Empfänger "5V-Standby" (rotes Kabel) auf ASRock "ATX+5Vsb" Pin

- CIR-Empfänger "LED" (weiß Kabel) auf ASRock "IRtx" Pin
- CIR-Empfänger "CIR Input" (grünes Kabel) auf ASRock "IRrx" Pin

Gnd, 5V, and CIR Input/IRRX, the 4th is for the LED Feedback, you don't need it.

I think a Logitech Harmony would be fine for you. Take one which fit best for you in your local Store.

Thanks for the info.

The most important thing is to be able to wake up the PC from S5 state.

The Logitech Harmony remote is too expensive for me, the cheapest model costs about 80 euro: http://www.trovaprezzi.it/prezzo_telecom...rmony.aspx For remote control I wanted to exceed the 30 - 35 € , is there any other model ? always compatible with xbmc.

A curiosity, because the CIR receivers are so rare ? In practice there are only 2 or 3 models compatible with the CIR module.
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Every CIR Device can wake from S5.
Here is one for 55 eur http://www.conrad.it/ce/it/product/94376...archDetail
Don't you have an Saturn/MediaMarkt or something? They should have an Harmony 350 for about 30-40 eur.
http://geizhals.de/eu/logitech-harmony-3...28436.html
http://www.amazon.it/Logitech-915-000235...armony+350
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(2014-06-22, 21:29)-DDD- Wrote: Every CIR Device can wake from S5.
Here is one for 55 eur http://www.conrad.it/ce/it/product/94376...archDetail
Don't you have an Saturn/MediaMarkt or something? They should have an Harmony 350 for about 30-40 eur.
http://geizhals.de/eu/logitech-harmony-3...28436.html
http://www.amazon.it/Logitech-915-000235...armony+350


Thanks for everything.

I usually buy everything online, I have a favorite store in particular, I prefer stores that accept cash on delivery. In the area where I live it is impossible to find these products for sale.

The Logitech Harmony 350 is compatible with XBMC ? The button on the remote control to turn off and turn on the computer I can set it at will ?

Remote controls instead of this kind are not compatible with your device CIR ? http://www.amazon.co.uk/2-4Ghz-Wireless-...emote+xbmc , http://www.ebay.it/itm/K300-Compro-Video...fe6&_uhb=1

Excuse me, I wanted to ask one more thing, even the USB IR receivers are compatible with the CIR module ? I speak of receivers like this: http://www.ebay.it/itm/NEW-FOR-HP-USB-Mi...6ed&_uhb=1

EDIT:

The CIR receivers work with the RC6 protocol ? The choice of remote controls has nothing to do with this protocol ? Or we want to remote controls are compatible with the RC6 ? http://forum.team-mediaportal.com/thread...eln.84949/
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Harmony is compatible with many Devices http://myremotesetup.com/EasyZapper/New/...ocSpice%2F
There you can choose Microsoft and MCE Remote.
MCE with XBMC http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=Using_an_MCE...in_Windows
With Every Remote with RC6 and an CIR Device in your PC you can wake up your PC, it doesn't depend on the Remote, it depends
on CIR which can wake up PCs, where USB-IR mostly doesn't wake up.

The Remotes should not be compatible with CIR, they should speak the same Language - RC6 for Example.

The last USB IR Kit, no the USB Plug for the PC isn't compatible with CIR, but the RC6 remote speak the same language as the CIR Device in your PC - RC6.
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(2014-06-22, 22:24)-DDD- Wrote: Harmony is compatible with many Devices http://myremotesetup.com/EasyZapper/New/...ocSpice%2F
There you can choose Microsoft and MCE Remote.
MCE with XBMC http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=Using_an_MCE...in_Windows
With Every Remote with RC6 and an CIR Device in your PC you can wake up your PC, it doesn't depend on the Remote, it depends
on CIR which can wake up PCs, where USB-IR mostly doesn't wake up.

The Remotes should not be compatible with CIR, they should speak the same Language - RC6 for Example.

The last USB IR Kit, no the USB Plug for the PC isn't compatible with CIR, but the RC6 remote speak the same language as the CIR Device in your PC - RC6.


Let's see if I understand, I have a bit of confusion.

The CIR device must interact with a remote control compatible with the RC6 protocol.

For example, connect the USB cable of 'antec isk 110 CIR device, then to the external USB port of' antec isk 110 I connect a USB IR kit, in this case, the remote control does not work ? The remote control must interact directly with the device CIR, if I connect an external USB IR receiver, the remote control no longer communicates with the dispostivo CIR, but only with your IR receiver ?

In practice, the common USB IR receivers are not compatible with the devices CIR, therefore their remotes do not communicate with the CIR but only with their USB IR receiver.

About the Harmony remote I have seen the site that you have shown me, I am explaining it that is compatible with many devices, but even then with xbmc ?

If I understand correctly most of the microsoft MCE remotes work with xbmc without the need of configurations. At this point it is better to buy a microsoft MCE remote control, I want to avoid running configurations. The remote control used on most forums with xbmc which is it ? Some model that has already been tested and has no need of configurations. This model could fit ? http://www.mce-community.de/forum/index....ntry243814
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(2014-06-22, 15:16)marck120 Wrote: How did you connect to the TSOP4838 'header (CIR) ? You have soldered the wire ?

I was looking for a receiver of CIR including cable, ready for installation, you know some other model of CIR receiver complete with the cable ?

No soldering, just rewired an old cd-rom cable as shown in the article, stuck it on the CIR header, stuck the TSOP4838 into the other end and taped it to the inside of the case, so it would be exposed through the IR window.

Haven't really looked into alternative solutions, as it wasn't required with my ASRock board, so couldn't tell you which ones work well. I'm a cheapskate, not going to spend tens of dollars on something I can have for less than one. Laugh
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@ marck120: I am also a bit confused about your USB/CIR Talk Wink
RC6 is the wireless Protocoll between the IR Device and your Remote.
So yes, your Remote should be an RC6.
You don't have to use USB Cables and Devices when you use CIR. Maybe you are a bit confused cause
Asrock and the Smart Remote misuse the internal USB Cable for theis CIR Device?
If you use an USB IR Device, your Board should be able to wakeUp the PC from S5 State, but not all Boards
can do this, so the Solution is not to use USB-IR, but the CIR-IR, which can always wake up your PC.

No one USB-IR is compatible with the CIR Port on your Mainboard. But the Remotes of those USB-IR Bundles
often speak RC6, which can also be used with an CIR Device, cause this also can speak RC6.

XBMC = MCE Remote = Compatible with Logitech Remote.

With an Harmony you have benefits that you can also use your TV, your Reciever and so on.
You push an Button "TV", Harmony powers on your TV, your Reciever, your HTPC and so on.
The MCE can only be used with your HTPC, you can't use it for your TV.
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(2014-06-23, 03:18)DocG Wrote:
(2014-06-22, 15:16)marck120 Wrote: How did you connect to the TSOP4838 'header (CIR) ? You have soldered the wire ?

I was looking for a receiver of CIR including cable, ready for installation, you know some other model of CIR receiver complete with the cable ?

No soldering, just rewired an old cd-rom cable as shown in the article, stuck it on the CIR header, stuck the TSOP4838 into the other end and taped it to the inside of the case, so it would be exposed through the IR window.

Haven't really looked into alternative solutions, as it wasn't required with my ASRock board, so couldn't tell you which ones work well. I'm a cheapskate, not going to spend tens of dollars on something I can have for less than one. Laugh


Thanks for the explanation.

The article that I had shown was this: http://blog.tynemouthsoftware.co.uk/2012...ified.html, I had not realized it was a project carried out by you, in this photo but you write that you have soldered the cable to the device: http://www.imagebam.com/image/f16a9e334730441

The audio cables from the CD-ROM are still in business ?

I forgot to ask you something, what about you which remote you use ?

The case antec isk 110 I have chosen is very small, I have to find a way to place the CIR receiver so that it takes the signal from the remote control, do you have any solution to this ?

http://www.imagebam.com/image/3de03b334731508

http://www.imagebam.com/image/065711334731515

(2014-06-23, 06:50)-DDD- Wrote: @ marck120: I am also a bit confused about your USB/CIR Talk Wink
RC6 is the wireless Protocoll between the IR Device and your Remote.
So yes, your Remote should be an RC6.
You don't have to use USB Cables and Devices when you use CIR. Maybe you are a bit confused cause
Asrock and the Smart Remote misuse the internal USB Cable for theis CIR Device?
If you use an USB IR Device, your Board should be able to wakeUp the PC from S5 State, but not all Boards
can do this, so the Solution is not to use USB-IR, but the CIR-IR, which can always wake up your PC.

No one USB-IR is compatible with the CIR Port on your Mainboard. But the Remotes of those USB-IR Bundles
often speak RC6, which can also be used with an CIR Device, cause this also can speak RC6.

XBMC = MCE Remote = Compatible with Logitech Remote.

With an Harmony you have benefits that you can also use your TV, your Reciever and so on.
You push an Button "TV", Harmony powers on your TV, your Reciever, your HTPC and so on.
The MCE can only be used with your HTPC, you can't use it for your TV.

Thank you very much for the explanation.

Yes, actually the asrock remote system confused me a bit ideas, with the asrock remote system connector at the CIR and connected to the USB port of the PC, then to the external USB port of the PC is switched mla key asrock, which is actually a CIR receiver.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/spec/card.asp?M...art+Remote

http://www.imagebam.com/image/80965d334732931

I want to use the remote control system exclusively for mini itx, but I have some concerns about it, to turn on the pc I just press any button on the remote, just the CIR device receives the signal from the remote PC is turned on ? How do I 'associate the buttons on the remote control to the functions that I want to run ?

One important thing, the CIR device needs drivers to work ?

About CIR receivers I also found this, I think it's an old model ?

http://shop.inteset.com/inteset-cir-rece...therboards
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Ignore the 5 USB PINs from Asrock Remote, they are for the 2nd USB Slot of your FrontUSB, they have nothing todo with CIR.
For CIR they use only 4 PINs.

With the Harmony Software you can associate the Buttons to Functions.

On Windows you need CIR Drivers, on OpenElec they are included.

I don't know this Interset CIR, but it looks like the one from Cohaus.
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(2014-06-23, 20:30)-DDD- Wrote: Ignore the 5 USB PINs from Asrock Remote, they are for the 2nd USB Slot of your FrontUSB, they have nothing todo with CIR.
For CIR they use only 4 PINs.

With the Harmony Software you can associate the Buttons to Functions.

On Windows you need CIR Drivers, on OpenElec they are included.

I don't know this Interset CIR, but it looks like the one from Cohaus.


In the system of asrock smart remote I thought that the front USB ports of the PC were connected to the connector CIR. So the key asrock smart remote works on any PC, no need for a motherboard with CIR connector at ? If the key is not connected to the connector asrock CIR how do you wake up the PC from S5 state ?

You personally with the CIR device which remote you use ? Use the CIR device that you recommended to me ? The PC starts at the touch of a button on the remote control ?
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(2014-06-23, 13:38)marck120 Wrote: The article that I had shown was this: http://blog.tynemouthsoftware.co.uk/2012...ified.html, I had not realized it was a project carried out by you, in this photo but you write that you have soldered the cable to the device: http://www.imagebam.com/image/f16a9e334730441

The audio cables from the CD-ROM are still in business ?

I forgot to ask you something, what about you which remote you use ?

The case antec isk 110 I have chosen is very small, I have to find a way to place the CIR receiver so that it takes the signal from the remote control, do you have any solution to this ?

Not my project, I simply copied the wiring. I did not need to solder anything, nor would I solder anything to my motherboard.

I had plenty of spare old audio cables, but you can use just about any cable with appropriate connectors.

I'm using an old standard MCE remote. Any standard MCE remote should do.

At the front, where there's a little hole in the case, or a mesh. Also depends on what CIR receiver you're going to chose. If you just wire up a TSOP4838 to your CIR header, that thing is small, it fits just about anywhere.
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