[meridius]

Hi all

I have windows 7 installed and I also have xbmc in the startup menu and when I boot the computer xbmc loads but after a few sec it minimises to the desktop.

Also when I click on xbmc to maximise the screen it's ok for a few min and sometimes not all the time will minimise again

Is there a way to stop this ? I have even added a 30 delay in loading xbmc at startup and it happens sometimes, it's getting annoying.

There must be a way to force ths or top xbmc minimising

Any help

Thanks.

[jhsrennie]

This is almost certainly due to something in the system tray (i.e. the small icons at the bottom right of the screen) grabbing the focus.

By default XBMC uses a DirectXmode that is very fast, but that won't share the screen with any other app. So if another app gets the focus XBMC is forced to minimise. You can configure XBMC to use a slower DirectX mode that will share the screen from System settings, System, Video output, enable the setting "Use a fullscreen window rather than true fullscreen". However on many PCs the slowdown is noticeable. You could try it and see.

A much better solution is to find out which of the tray icons is responsible and remove it. Try right clicking on each icon and see if there is an option not to display the icon.

JR

[meridius]

Hi all just found out what it is

I have tried disabling all the task bars icons but it still does not work have also tried to enable Fullscreen window rather than true fullscreen which works but the problem is I get bad video playback when using this

The problem is when loading xbmc from the startup menu and you don't touch anything it just minimises to the desktop but if I load it using a mouse it does not do it. If I load it from the startup menu but use the mouse and click anywhere on the task bar just before xbmc loads it does not minimise to the desktop.

I have tried delays in the shortcut startup file even an option to start in maximise window but still it will minimise to the desktop.

So to stop this from happening is to load it using the mouse clicking on the icon or load it from the star up menu but just before it loads click anywhere on the task bar and that stops it from minimising to the desktop.

But let it load from the startup and do not touch anything it just minimises.

I don't really want to leave a mouse plugged in to keep loading it that's why I put it in the startup.

Can anyone help me on this I am surprised I am the only one that has this problem

Thanks for any help

[outatouch0]

The method I use to open xbmc with the remote (no mouse needed) is by setting 'F7' key to open xbmc and then assign a button on my remote as sending 'F7'
I don't remember exactly how I set it up but I learned it here in the forums. Probably found in one of the Harmony remote threads?

[meridius]

I have mobile mouse on my iPad and if I use the app launcher it loads xbmc but still the same problem it minimises to the desktop after 25 sec of loading it up.

But clicking on tue icon on the desktop using mobile mouse it doesn't minimise. I just can not figure it out and why it's doing it when loading it from the startup folder.

[meridius]

Anyone know how to fix this

[jhsrennie]

It's some other application causing the problem, but since we can't see your system it's impossible to know what app is responsible.

The development builds attempt to identify what app is taking the focus from XBMC and this may help, though if it's a tray icon the app taking the focus will just show as Explorer. Alternatively, someone hereabouts found an app that you run in the background and it tells you what app is taking the focus. Unfortunately I can't remember the app name, but someone hereabouts may know it.

Later: after some searching I found http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=106769 and this describes how to identify the app taking the focus.

JR

[>>X<<]

The problem is when loading xbmc from the startup menu and you don't touch anything it just minimises to the desktop but if I load it using a mouse it does not do it.

The only reason I can see for one working and the other not is when using a mouse you have allowed a sufficient time period to past and nothing else is loading because starting from shortcut in startup folder is no different then starting it yourself with the mouse

Whatever delay you have tried in the past use a longer one until it stops

[djmcnz]

The only reason I can see for one working and the other not is when using a mouse you have allowed a sufficient time period to past and nothing else is loading because starting from shortcut in startup folder is no different then starting it yourself with the mouse

Whatever delay you have tried in the past use a longer one until it stops

It's not quite the same... manually starting it creates an explicit intent which will create a foreground window, this same logic isn't applied for items executed from the startup group or the registry.

Having said that, I will defer to jhsrennie's comments above.

Nevertheless, if it is a focus problem - i.e. if the DirectXmode implementation doesn't require a foreground window - you can probably solve the problem by simply switching (back) to XBMC automatically.

You'll need a scripting tool for this such as AutoIt or NirCmd but the script will only be a few lines (switchto blah, blah). XBMC would launch, minimise then the script would bring it back to the front. This would take only fractions of a second.

Again however, I would follow jhsrennie's advice first.

[meridius]

Thanks for the help I will try out the suggestions above and will post back on the weekend as I work.

Just to answer above question about puting in delay that does not work as I tried that before I started this post.

Like djmcnz says seems to Ben correct as the startup folder must act differently to how it loads if u use the most and click to load it

Tried xbmc for 3 days by loading it with the mouse and it's never minimised at all.

As for apps running there are only 2 in my system and that's the windows firewall which I have disabled which dd not work and my sound settings.

Will try the above app and post back the results to see if there is a program making it minimise back to the desktop.

Cheers

[mika91]

If you have an ATI GPU, try removing Catalyst Control Center process on startup. (msconfig)
Works for me.

[meridius]

Thanks but I did that. THe only thing in there is Microsoft virus killer and audio driver setting and mobile mouse. But also did this before I installed mobile mouse so it's not that also disabled virus killer and that did not work.

[meridius]

hi there, here is the info from that program i have tried to look for the pid but when i go into task manager the pid does not exist

DATE: 06-10-2011
TIME: 20:26:35
MONITORING WINDOW: XBMC
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"XBMC" LOST FOCUS DUE TO THE FOLLOWING PROCESS:
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svchost.exe
svchost.exe
atieclxx.exe
spoolsv.exe
svchost.exe
atkexComSvc.exe
dwm.exe
explorer.exe
taskhost.exe
RAVCpl64.exe
msseces.exe
aaHMSvc.exe
Air Mouse.exe
AsSysCtrlService.exe
mDNSResponder.exe
IAStorIcon.exe
CLMLSvc.exe
PDVD9Serv.exe
brs.exe
LSSrvc.exe
MOM.exe
NisSrv.exe
Mobile Mouse Service.exe
CCC.exe
SearchIndexer.exe
wmpnetwk.exe
SearchProtocolHost.exe
SearchFilterHost.exe
svchost.exe
svchost.exe
WmiPrvSE.exe
WinFocusMon.exe
XBMC.exe
PresentationFontCache.exe
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hope this helps as i dont have a clue what's causing it, any ideas

Cheers

[nikc0069]

If you have an ATI GPU, try removing Catalyst Control Center process on startup. (msconfig)
Works for me.

I get this too. I have a fusion setup so will give this a go. Assume it doesn't break anything else?

[mika91]

It seems that Control Catalyst Center is still running on your log (process "CCC.exe")