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champ222 Offline
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Hi, thanks for that, i was leaning towards nvidia, but i'll think i'll go with ati

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@DDDamian

Didn't see this comment here yet, but as far as I can see from experience:

All builds from last weekend have problems with trick modes (fast forward, rewind).

As you as soon you press fast forward, then play again, playback freezes and after
a while XBMC hangs. Only killing the program helps.

Builds from July 6 (didn't try those in between) work ok.

However, though ok, I noticed that sometimes you see the video playing rapidly to
(my guess) sync up with the audio. This is not what you want. Isn't it possible to do
this in the background, so freezes the video until buffers have sync'ed up.

If this doesn't belong in this thread... sorry for that.

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(This post was last modified: 2012-07-16 21:42 by loekf.)
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Not sure if this is related to the engine or card capabilities, but when playing a BDMV with DTS-HD / Master Audio or Dolby TrueHD, frame rate drops to 1-2. AAC channel in the same video play smooth.

Running Ion with latest nvidia drivers via HDMI.
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(2012-07-26 07:12)MrCeddy Wrote:  Not sure if this is related to the engine or card capabilities, but when playing a BDMV with DTS-HD / Master Audio or Dolby TrueHD, frame rate drops to 1-2. AAC channel in the same video play smooth.

Running Ion with latest nvidia drivers via HDMI.

Hi,
I dont believe that the ION chipset supports HD audio, I think 1 manufacture (ASRock maybe) did manufacture a HDMI 1.4a 3D version of the ION, but other than that, it won't bitstream HD audio and will therefore cause your machine to stutter and/or come o a crawl Sad

I own the ATI Revo and the ION Revo and only my ATI will bitstream HD audio .. The ION will only handle up to DTS 96/24 and then LPCM for everything above.

Hope that helps.
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All - I'm struggling with stuttering video and delayed audio in the WASAPI output mode, but probably only with playback of DVDs.
PAL/NTSC DVDs are by nature software decoded in xbmc (because of the menus) and usually have DD or DTS audio. I'm getting heavy stutter unless I switch to double framerate (forcing deinterlacing) and in addition I have a sound delay of about 175 ms. Any thoughts?

I'm running xbmc on Win 7 64bit, AMD E-450 APU (ZBOX AD04), 4 GB of RAM. Everything HD or even hardware decoded SD (like mp4 divx etc.) seems to do fine. I'm using Catalyst 12.6 and have every video "enhancement" disabled. Also, on my workstation (Core i7 / nVidia GT240) this issue does not occur...
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@Voyager-xbmc - Is this a new occurence of the problem discussed in the AE help thread ( http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid...pid1139974 )? I thought you had resolved the issue by switching off "Pulldown Detection" in the Catalyst menu.

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@fat-tony - yes it is. Strangely, I thought it was resolved, but it came back.
You'll see from my note that all video enhancements are turned off. It seems that you can resolve it briefly but after more testing all of a sudden video starts to stutter again.
Just wondering two things now: could it be the sound driver (currently on 2.70 Realtek) or perhaps that I have "sync playback to display" turned on?
(This post was last modified: 2012-07-27 12:48 by Voyager.)
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(2012-07-27 12:48)Voyager-xbmc Wrote:  @fat-tony - yes it is. Strangely, I thought it was resolved, but it came back.
You'll see from my note that all video enhancements are turned off. It seems that you can resolve it briefly but after more testing all of a sudden video starts to stutter again.
Just wondering two things now: could it be the sound driver (currently on 2.70 Realtek) or perhaps that I have "sync playback to display" turned on?

Did you make sure that the display supports the mode you want it switching to? You could try setting it to 24FPS in Windows and see what happens.
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(2012-07-29 11:43)HeresJohnny Wrote:  Did you make sure that the display supports the mode you want it switching to? You could try setting it to 24FPS in Windows and see what happens.

of course. first of all this is not 24fps related, it's with 50fps (25) dvds, and secondly it only happens with WASAPI, not DirectSound.

My log is showing lots of lines like this:

14:14:23 T:4104 DEBUG: CDVDPlayerAudio:: Discontinuity - was:2591653817.781907, should be:2591467798.761901, error:-186019.020006
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Ok, I'm having a problem myself now. When I select WASAPI: My amp as audio output, it will lockup. Same device is set as passthrough. When I select DS: My amp, things are fine. Debug log is 1MB, where can I put that? Excerpt looks like this:

23:18:56 T:4708 DEBUG: CSoftAE::Run - Sink restart flagged
23:18:56 T:4708 DEBUG: CAESinkWASAPI::IsCompatible: Formats compatible - reusing existing sink
23:18:56 T:4708 INFO: CSoftAE::InternalOpenSink - keeping old sink with : AE_FMT_FLOAT, FL,FR, 44100hz
23:18:56 T:4708 DEBUG: CSoftAE::Initialize - Using speaker layout: 5.1
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: OnInitialize() started
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: OnInitialize() done
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: CGUIInfoManager::SetCurrentSong(musicdb://2/551/539/28026.flac)
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: Loading additional tag info for file Q:\Music\#Modern#\A\Animotion\(1986) Strange Behavior\02. I Engineer.flac
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: CAnnouncementManager - Announcement: OnPlay from xbmc
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: GOT ANNOUNCEMENT, type: 1, from xbmc, message OnPlay
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: Karaoke: lyrics for song Q:\Music\#Modern#\A\Animotion\(1986) Strange Behavior\02. I Engineer.flac not found
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: Updating visualisation albumart: Q:\Music\#Modern#\A\Animotion\(1986) Strange Behavior\folder.jpg
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: CGUIInfoManager::SetCurrentSong(musicdb://2/551/539/28026.flac)
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: Loading additional tag info for file Q:\Music\#Modern#\A\Animotion\(1986) Strange Behavior\02. I Engineer.flac
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: CAnnouncementManager - Announcement: OnPlay from xbmc
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: GOT ANNOUNCEMENT, type: 1, from xbmc, message OnPlay
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: Karaoke: lyrics for song Q:\Music\#Modern#\A\Animotion\(1986) Strange Behavior\02. I Engineer.flac not found
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: Updating visualisation albumart: Q:\Music\#Modern#\A\Animotion\(1986) Strange Behavior\folder.jpg
23:18:56 T:8220 DEBUG: Building didl for object 'musicdb://2/551/539/28026.flac'
23:19:00 T:4708 ERROR: CThread::Action - thread CSoftAE, Unhandled exception caught in thread process, aborting. auto delete: 0
23:19:00 T:8608 ERROR: CThread::Action - thread PAPlayer, Unhandled exception caught in thread process, aborting. auto delete: 0
23:19:00 T:8608 DEBUG: Thread PAPlayer 8608 terminating
23:19:00 T:4708 DEBUG: Thread CSoftAE 4708 terminating
23:19:03 T:8220 DEBUG: WinEventsWin32.cpp: APPCOMMAND 1
23:19:03 T:8220 DEBUG: CApplication::OnAppCommand: appcommand 1, trying action Back
23:19:03 T:8220 DEBUG: CGUIMediaWindow::GetDirectory (musicdb://2/551/)

This is with Catalyst Driver 12.6:

Driver Packaging Version 9.00-120612a-140545E-ATI
Catalyst Version 12.6
Provider Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
2D Driver Version 8.01.01.1262
2D Driver File Path /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/CLASS/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0002
Direct3D Version 9.14.10.0922
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.11806
Catalyst Control Center Version 2012.0626.1157.19430
(This post was last modified: 2012-07-29 23:50 by HeresJohnny.)
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(2012-07-27 12:48)Voyager-xbmc Wrote:  @fat-tony - yes it is. Strangely, I thought it was resolved, but it came back.
You'll see from my note that all video enhancements are turned off. It seems that you can resolve it briefly but after more testing all of a sudden video starts to stutter again.
Just wondering two things now: could it be the sound driver (currently on 2.70 Realtek) or perhaps that I have "sync playback to display" turned on?

I was on the 2.70 Realtek driver initially and couldn't get stable video with any of the AE builds. I removed the Realtek drivers and installed those from the Catalyst folder and the video has been stable for me since. DDDamien seems not to have visited since June 18th and I reckon he should be able to throw some light on the issue whenever he returns Big Grin

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(2012-07-30 17:00)fat-tony Wrote:  I was on the 2.70 Realtek driver initially and couldn't get stable video with any of the AE builds. I removed the Realtek drivers and installed those from the Catalyst folder and the video has been stable for me since. DDDamien seems not to have visited since June 18th and I reckon he should be able to throw some light on the issue whenever he returns Big Grin

unfortunately not an option for me. I'm on SPDIF...(optical)
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I'm seeing the stuttering issue as well (actually, the codec info shows a very low framerate of 3-18fps) and I don't have Realtek/AMD in my machine. I have an NVIDIA G210 + VIA onboard optical out. My old receiver is only capable of AC3 decoding, so everything else is unchecked. When I watch a movie with Dolby Digital, I don't notice any immediate issues, but when I view a movie with DTS or any other codec that needs to be re-encoded as AC3, it starts stuttering like crazy. It's made even worse if I have "Boost volume level on downmix" enabled and "Output stereo to all speakers." If I disable AC3 capable and leave it to pass stereo LPCM then there doesn't appear to be any stuttering. These same videos work fine on Eden.
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Hi all,

I am a pretty new member here, and I have some feedback on my experience with the nightly build especially with AudioEngine.

I have a 55" Samsung 3D TV connected via HDMI 1.4 with an ARC to a Samsung HT-D5300 3D Home Theater.

Pre XMBC:
I had an Xtreamer Ultra that had the NVIDIA ION, and at one point I had full HD Bitstreaming working after I had created EDID override for the TV, mounting the 3dbd.iso, and playing the movie through WinDVD11.

Post XMBC-AE:
I bought the Xtreamer Ultra 2 using the NVIDIA GTX 520M, and set it up the same by creating the EDID override for the TV, mounting the bd.iso, and playing the movie though WinDVD11. It plays FLAWLESSLY in full HD.

After installing the Nightly last night, and messed around with the settings, I get no sound when I have DTS-HD (or DTS core), nor when I have TrueHD selected. If I play through LPCM, I only get 2 channels regardless, (Playing 8 channel LPCM might be an issue with the TV not sending the other LPCM channels to my receiver.) These are setup using the WASAPI: Nvidia HDMI.

The ONLY thing I got "working" was Dolby (AC3), but the playback was somewhat sluggish, and dropped frames, compared to having DTS or LPCM selected. I am assuming that XBMC is reencoding to AC3 and is requiring more system resources than what the Xtreamer can do natively.

I did try PowerDVD12, and it was awful at playing a 3DBD.iso. It was severely dropping frames in either right or left eye, but it did play DTS-HD.
WinDVD11 did the same 3DBD.iso perfectly with no dropped frames and full DTS-HD.

Anyway, I don't know how differently AE is set up internally than WinDVD, but WinDVD works where I cannot get AE to work in either DTS-HD or TrueHD. Let me know if there is a "setting" that I should try that could force the bitstreaming to pass the untouched HD audio.

Thanks,

Wade
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(2012-08-06 19:12)wbalzer Wrote:  Post XMBC-AE:
I bought the Xtreamer Ultra 2 using the NVIDIA GTX 520M, and set it up the same by creating the EDID override for the TV, mounting the bd.iso, and playing the movie though WinDVD11. It plays FLAWLESSLY in full HD.
Never change a running system Tongue
I´m sure the developers would need a debug log to track down your problem.
But since gnif and DDDamien are MIA, things are going a little slow here.
So you will have to be patient.
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