[Mini-ITX] Intel Core I3-2120T, 2x 2.60GHz + HD2000 35W (crazy low power)

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Hey guys-

If you want to discuss Trinity, there are plenty of threads for it in this forum: AMD Trinity APU...

I want to reserve this post for the 35W CPU listed in OP. If there is another existing CPU w/ <35W TDP or idea (better case, PSU, memory, settings, etc) to improve OP, you are welcome to bring your idea.....

As the forum moderator always pointed out- "stick to OP"......

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(2012-05-13 16:49)eskro Wrote:  yeah, cant wait for pricing.

hope they dont end up being hyper pricey like Ivy Bridge,,,

The Ivy Bridge is expensive....

Hope they bring it down in price.....
(2012-05-13 17:46)bluray Wrote:  Hey guys-

If you want to discuss Trinity, there are plenty of threads for it in this forum: AMD Trinity APU...

I want to reserve this post for the 35W CPU listed in OP. If there is another existing CPU w/ <35W TDP or idea (better case, PSU, memory, settings, etc) to improve OP, you are welcome to bring your idea.....

As the forum moderator always pointed out- "stick to OP"......

"stick to OP"......

Even do it does not happen on some other threats....
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(2012-05-13 17:53)Beer40oz Wrote:  The Ivy Bridge is expensive....
Regardless of the product, most new products are more expensive.....

(2012-05-13 17:53)Beer40oz Wrote:  "stick to OP"......

Even do it does not happen on some other threats....
If there is a 35W Trinity can be purchased to replace i3-2120t now, it's valid......

>Alienware X51- do it all HTPC
>Simplify XBMC configurations
>HOW-TO Bitstreaming using XBMC
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i prefer my i3. full passive rocks.

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(2012-05-13 17:53)Beer40oz Wrote:  The Ivy Bridge is expensive....

yeah INTEL is money hungry...

(2012-05-13 17:53)Beer40oz Wrote:  "stick to OP"......

Even do it does not happen on some other threats....

+1

(2012-05-13 18:06)bluray Wrote:  if there is a 35W Trinity can be purchased to replace i3-2120t now, it's valid......

its not you to decide whats valid.
its not only about Watts here.
maybe we'll see a 45W TDP Trinity APU pushing up
better Power Consumption numbers then the i3-2120T
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(2012-05-12 23:32)bluray Wrote:  
(2012-05-12 22:51)CpTHOOK Wrote:  Kool set-up Blu..... but a few questions?

1. Why the Antec ISK300-150 over the Antec ISK-110 Vesa?(Since CPU power consumption is only 35w)
Antec ISK300-150 is cheaper on Amazon......and yes, the Antec ISK-110 is another option for this build.....

(2012-05-12 22:51)CpTHOOK Wrote:  2. Is the 2120T that much better than the 2100? Both have HD2000 Graphics. Unless you chose the 2120 strictly due to it's power consumption or the fact that it is a newer processor. Y not stick with the cheaper 2100 until i3 I.Bridge is released?
It is strictly for low 35W power consumption.....and yes, there are powerful iVy's with 35W but it's very expensive.....
Please note that the 35W power consumption is the maximum. The idle power consumption is more or less the same for the 2100 and 2120T. I don't expect many of us run prime95 in the background on our HTPC's. More important for the idle power consumption is the motherboard where the ASRock doesn't appear to be the best choice . Does anyone know if the ASRock supports undervolting the cpu?
Is there reason to believe that the upcoming Ivy Bridge core i3 will be priced higher than the current Sandy Bridge i3's?? It would be nice if the TDP is also configurable for the desktop Ivy's and not just the mobile variant.

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Ha I love my cheap 2125 picked up from microcenter, if there's one around you it's an excellent alternative for $119, higher TDP but higher freq + hd3000.

Running the same openelec version the 2125 system feels significant faster than my a6-3500 system, also some problematic 720p rmvb that are causing drops on my a6 plays fine without drops on my 2125.

Atlas finding an ISK 300-65 case for my 2125 is a pain, both OOS on newegg and amazon. I think these htpc threads are stiring up demands for these boxes Smile or is it because antec is moving production to isk 310 ....
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(2012-05-13 22:06)waver123 Wrote:  Ha I love my cheap 2125 picked up from microcenter, if there's one around you it's an excellent alternative for $119, higher TDP but higher freq + hd3000.
I don't have HD3000, but I have i5 with HD2000. It can playback everything I threw at it so far.....but it is 65W though. My next HTPC will be <35W, and I'm not shooting for the more expensive iVy bridge either....

The next build might be my first passive case- FC8 Fanless Chassis

>Alienware X51- do it all HTPC
>Simplify XBMC configurations
>HOW-TO Bitstreaming using XBMC
I refused to watch movie without bitstreaming HD audio!
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(2012-05-13 22:06)waver123 Wrote:  Ha I love my cheap 2125 picked up from microcenter, if there's one around you it's an excellent alternative for $119, higher TDP but higher freq + hd3000.

Running the same openelec version the 2125 system feels significant faster than my a6-3500 system, also some problematic 720p rmvb that are causing drops on my a6 plays fine without drops on my 2125.

Atlas finding an ISK 300-65 case for my 2125 is a pain, both OOS on newegg and amazon. I think these htpc threads are stiring up demands for these boxes Smile or is it because antec is moving production to isk 310 ....

Because of me....
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(2012-05-12 22:44)bluray Wrote:  This might be *the best* 35W XBMC HTPC you can build at this price. It is crazy that it can do everything (full 1080P video, *bitstreaming HD audio*, etc) with only 35W..........

Uhm.... the best? 1080i De-interlacing quality (not: 'my cheap-ass tuner gives 10 times better quality') ok? Bitstreaming when using linux ok?
Please add the usual remarks. That build does its thing, but certainly not under all circumstances.
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(2012-05-13 22:06)waver123 Wrote:  ....feels significant faster....


What is "feels significant faster? My 245e@800MHz 'feels' brutally fast. You must mean navigating in the GUI environment, correct? I can tell you that a 245e@800MHz with the Aeon MQ 3 skin (hundreds of movies and series) 'feels' extremely AND satisfying fast. The thing between fast and extremely fast is (in the case of xmbc) nothing more than illusion ('father to the thought'). Smile
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(2012-05-14 02:27)-EaS- Wrote:  
(2012-05-12 22:44)bluray Wrote:  This might be *the best* 35W XBMC HTPC you can build at this price. It is crazy that it can do everything (full 1080P video, *bitstreaming HD audio*, etc) with only 35W..........

Uhm.... the best? 1080i De-interlacing quality (not: 'my cheap-ass tuner gives 10 times better quality') ok? Bitstreaming when using linux ok?
Please add the usual remarks. That build does its thing, but certainly not under all circumstances.
Is there another 35W all-in-one CPU on the market can top Intel i3-2120T?

If your tuner can do 1080i, surf the net, playback bluray in full 1080P/bitstreaming HD audio, stream Netflix/Vudu/Amazon/Hulu/YouTube HD, transcoding bluray file in the background while watching bluray movie, etc, I want to know what brand and model of the tuner......and I want one too!


(2012-05-14 03:12)-EaS- Wrote:  
(2012-05-13 22:06)waver123 Wrote:  ....feels significant faster....


What is "feels significant faster? My 245e@800MHz 'feels' brutally fast. You must mean navigating in the GUI environment, correct? I can tell you that a 245e@800MHz with the Aeon MQ 3 skin (hundreds of movies and series) 'feels' extremely AND satisfying fast. The thing between fast and extremely fast is (in the case of xmbc) nothing more than illusion ('father to the thought'). Smile
That is because you took his comment out of context. If you read his entire post, he is comparing his i3 to his a6 on the same OpenElec platform.....

>Alienware X51- do it all HTPC
>Simplify XBMC configurations
>HOW-TO Bitstreaming using XBMC
I refused to watch movie without bitstreaming HD audio!
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(2012-05-14 02:27)-EaS- Wrote:  
(2012-05-12 22:44)bluray Wrote:  This might be *the best* 35W XBMC HTPC you can build at this price. It is crazy that it can do everything (full 1080P video, *bitstreaming HD audio*, etc) with only 35W..........

Uhm.... the best? 1080i De-interlacing quality (not: 'my cheap-ass tuner gives 10 times better quality') ok? Bitstreaming when using linux ok?
Please add the usual remarks. That build does its thing, but certainly not under all circumstances.

+1 -EaS-
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(2012-05-12 22:44)bluray Wrote:  This might be the best 35W XBMC HTPC you can build at this price. It is crazy that it can do everything (full 1080P video, bitstreaming HD audio, etc) with only 35W..........

What about the 24p issue...is still there?
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(2012-05-14 11:13)Zenith Wrote:  What about the 24p issue...is still there?

yes it is as of today
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