OS X No 5.1 sound from AAC or DTS when transcoding to AC3
#1
I have a surround receiver that can handle AC3 sound, but not DTS through optical. I understand that XBMC (release candidate 2 frodo) should be able to transcode these files to AC3 without a problem, however, depending on settings, things don't work.
With audio output set to Optical/Coax, And AC3 capable receiver ticked, I get 2.0 sound from files in other codecs. This is the same if the output is set to HDMI.
However if i tick LPCM capable receiver with HDMI selected as well, i get the two surround channels coming from the front speakers and no other sound.
Everything works fine for AC3 files.
Is there a setting in mac os that could change this. The optical cable is connected to the mac using a 3.5 mm toslink adapter if that makes a difference.
Thanks
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#2
transcoding from dts/aac to ac3 is broken currently in the new audio engine. We are not able to quick fix this for frodo - we aim 12.1 for this.
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#3
@Memphiz - I recall a commit from Davilla some time ago forcing 2.0 if device is optical. This is likely the cause of the 2.0 sound when transcoding from AAC/DTS > AC3
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- Sony BDP-S580 Blu-Ray  - X-Box 360  - Android tablet wireless remote - 7.1 Streem/Axiom/Velodyne Surround System
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#4
I'm unaware that optical can officially handle anything but two channels of audio which includes the fake that allows passthrough of ac3/dts.
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#5
And you're correct - they issue would be that DTS/AAC can be decoded to 5.1 pcm before transcoding, and it's there that the optical 2,0 force can kill the surround & LFE channels - while we're pcm.

PS - I copied that commit over to SoftAE and borked it the same way by doing so Tongue

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=149369
System: XBMC HTPC with HDMI WASAPI & AudioEngine - Denon  AVR-3808CI  - Denon DVD-5900 Universal Player  - Denon DCM-27 CD-Changer
- Sony BDP-S580 Blu-Ray  - X-Box 360  - Android tablet wireless remote - 7.1 Streem/Axiom/Velodyne Surround System
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#6
eh ? optical cannot support 6 channels of pcm. I still don't get what you are saying/
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#7
It's during the intermediate stage between the decoding to PCM (gets forced to 2.0) and then re-encoding to AC3. Ends up as AC3 2.0 final output.

5b62277ae34a8ae9e11d24a677881f6a3254ee05 <- CA

c3bc136c2f6981fb36f4a5d824ee6d8d6e81d3c3 <- added to SoftAE just after
System: XBMC HTPC with HDMI WASAPI & AudioEngine - Denon  AVR-3808CI  - Denon DVD-5900 Universal Player  - Denon DCM-27 CD-Changer
- Sony BDP-S580 Blu-Ray  - X-Box 360  - Android tablet wireless remote - 7.1 Streem/Axiom/Velodyne Surround System
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#8
so how should this get fixed ?
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#9
Both can be safely reverted IMHO.
System: XBMC HTPC with HDMI WASAPI & AudioEngine - Denon  AVR-3808CI  - Denon DVD-5900 Universal Player  - Denon DCM-27 CD-Changer
- Sony BDP-S580 Blu-Ray  - X-Box 360  - Android tablet wireless remote - 7.1 Streem/Axiom/Velodyne Surround System
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#10
Both were added to fix the issue that users would select 5.1 and digital then the channels would be borked because it tried to do 6 channels over optical. So fix one problem but caused another. So they can't be safely reverted Smile
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#11
If this fixes the 1h02min slowdown effect i'd get a laugh flash...

The real fix would be that we need to know if we are ending up in an 2.0 encoded format or not. If not - we need to clamp to 2.0 - if we do - no clamp needed and we would allow the intermediate lpcm state with > 2 channels.

DDDamian - any clue how this detection could be done? (basically we would need to detect the transcoding use case).
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#12
@Memphiz - bingo. In master's OpenSink():

Code:
if (!m_transcode)
        newFormat.m_channelLayout.ResolveChannels(m_stdChLayout);
      else
      {
        if (m_masterStream->m_initChannelLayout == AE_CH_LAYOUT_2_0)
          m_transcode = false;
        m_encoderInitFrameSizeMul  = 1.0 / (newFormat.m_channelLayout.Count() *
                                           (CAEUtil::DataFormatToBits(newFormat.m_dataFormat) >> 3));
        m_encoderInitSampleRateMul = 1.0 / newFormat.m_sampleRate;
      }
    }

I still think the analog/optical/HDMI setting should go and just be replaced with the more accurate / descriptive radio buttons + a few additions like:
- force transcode
- force 16 bit
- force 44.1 lpcm
System: XBMC HTPC with HDMI WASAPI & AudioEngine - Denon  AVR-3808CI  - Denon DVD-5900 Universal Player  - Denon DCM-27 CD-Changer
- Sony BDP-S580 Blu-Ray  - X-Box 360  - Android tablet wireless remote - 7.1 Streem/Axiom/Velodyne Surround System
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#13
yea, let's fill that audio section with more settings so we can get even more confused users Smile
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#14
I vote less settings
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#15
well the hdmi/analog/optical setting is more then confusing indeed - i think you will +1 that statement too...
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