[azrael17]

I'll remove the one coment. I'd rather have the information here for others who need it so they can avoid the insane amount of hours I had to put in.

Regardless, can you see how responses along the lines of "JUST READ MAN" aren't helpful when the instructions that I did read didn't address my setup?

That's frustrating. One guy even told me to sell my setup since I couldn't figure it out from information he posted.... when that information wasn't relevant to my setup.

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Those are not jabs man... seriously? I'm saying the instructions in this thread say to do X, Don't do that as it's either not ideal, or flat out won't work...

And the changes I made say the same thing without calling everyone else "pointless" and "useless".

... I didn't call ANYONE useless or pointless, I said some of the INSTRUCTIONS are unhelpful/useless/pointless.. Seriously, don't be so sensitive.
Regardless, I edited it, let me know if I need to change anything else.

Point is, all of the "JUST READ LOL" comments in this thread were innapropriate and unhelpful, and some of them, flat out rude. I dont' see you calling any of them out, and in fact, you made a few of the same unhelpful comments.

I really get that you run into people who are lazy and want to be hand held through the setup process, but I'm clearly not of that nature, so when people accuse me of it, it's offensive and annoying. or as i said before, unhelpful/useless/pointless.

Those comments are unhelpful, but are spurred by frustration. I think part of the problem is that you would try suggestions but not always say that you tried them, then you would just post again saying your problem. People, myself included, interpret that as you having not read and tried the suggestion. This leads to frustration as the helpers feel that the helpee is not listening. Which in turn leads to angry "unhelpful" comments.

And I'm not being overly sensitive. You are on Luna's ignore list and he's the one that decides whether or not something gets linked to the first page. I'm just trying to help you alter you guide so that there is nothing in it that can be seen as being unacceptable.

[Zacharybinx34]

And the changes I made say the same thing without calling everyone else "pointless" and "useless".

... I didn't call ANYONE useless or pointless, I said some of the INSTRUCTIONS are unhelpful/useless/pointless.. Seriously, don't be so sensitive.
Regardless, I edited it, let me know if I need to change anything else.

Point is, all of the "JUST READ LOL" comments in this thread were innapropriate and unhelpful, and some of them, flat out rude. I dont' see you calling any of them out, and in fact, you made a few of the same unhelpful comments.

I really get that you run into people who are lazy and want to be hand held through the setup process, but I'm clearly not of that nature, so when people accuse me of it, it's offensive and annoying. or as i said before, unhelpful/useless/pointless.

Those comments are unhelpful, but are spurred by frustration. I think part of the problem is that you would try suggestions but not always say that you tried them, then you would just post again saying your problem. People, myself included, interpret that as you having not read and tried the suggestion. This leads to frustration as the helpers feel that the helpee is not listening. Which in turn leads to angry "unhelpful" comments.

And I'm not being overly sensitive. You are on Luna's ignore list and he's the one that decides whether or not something gets linked to the first page. I'm just trying to help you alter you guide so that there is nothing in it that can be seen as being unacceptable.

I agree with this completely. I'll leave this as the last word on it.
In the future, I will try to be as detailed as possible when I post problems that I run into.

Regardless, thank you for your help and advice. If Luna wants to use it, he can. If not, it's there for anyone else who needs it.


On another note, I pretty much have everything working as it should now so that's pretty exciting. I am just going through and editing each channel so it appears how I'd like it to, and cleaning up my video collection channels.

Thanks to all who helped out on this. And of course to Luna for making this amazing plugin.

[Lunatixz]

@Zacharybinx34 you are a character... "The Method you figured out", "unhelpful advice". You just repeated what I and others already told you!

[Zacharybinx34]

@Zacharybinx34 you are a character... "The Method you figured out", "unhelpful advice". You just repeated what I and others already told you!

Sorry, I don't agree. If it was, it was either too vague or else I must be too stupid be follow it.

Regardless, the post is there for people who need a more "detailed" step-by-step instruction guide.

[Zacharybinx34]

So what's the best method for updating channels? Right now I have it set so that it goes through all 200 and updates whenever I open PTVL.

This ends up making it take about 7-8 minutes just to open the program every time.

[arithine]

Can anyone help me get the OSD to show, at least when playing my own media.

I'm using a 360 controller if that's important, slightly modified layout, but the OSD button is still the same.

[Kalebbroo]

So what's the best method for updating channels? Right now I have it set so that it goes through all 200 and updates whenever I open PTVL.

This ends up making it take about 7-8 minutes just to open the program every time.

For what I have read there is no way around that so the option of background updating was created. The first available channel will start to play and the rest will load when they are ready.

I could be wrong but that's how I understood it.

[windsorguy1979]

So what's the best method for updating channels? Right now I have it set so that it goes through all 200 and updates whenever I open PTVL.

This ends up making it take about 7-8 minutes just to open the program every time.

I have home sharing setup across all of my PSTV Live installs. The machine with the best hardware is setup to update every time it starts, all others are set to never update. The "update machine" runs the update in the morning, every morning. The others just quickly check for file locks at startup now, much faster than going through updates every time.
Right now, I manually fire up PSTV Live on my update machine in the morning while I get ready for work and let it update. Eventually, I want to have a cron job start XBMC at a certain time and have PSTV Live set to run at XBMC start up so channel updates fire automatically. Haven't gotten there yet, still ironing out some oddities with my FireTVs before I can get to the automated piece.

[BankerBankson]

So what's the best method for updating channels? Right now I have it set so that it goes through all 200 and updates whenever I open PTVL.

This ends up making it take about 7-8 minutes just to open the program every time.

The only real fix I see is to use Settop Box mode (still a WIP, tho) and leave PTVL open all the time, with background updating. The only caveat (for me) is that leaving PTVL open means you have a stream playing (or local media), and to STOP the playback currently currently CLOSES PTVL.

If Luna finds enough reason to do so, he may be able to implement a way to STOP playback within PTVL (perhaps simultaneously defaulting to a non-streaming/non-media channel or something) without CLOSING PTVL also. Then you could leave PTVL open all the time, not tax your hardware with 24/7 playback, and still have automatic updates that won't suck up 7-8 minutes like you mention.

In the meantime, I'd recommend creating a dummy channel with a non-hardware-intensive video loop and just switch to that channel when you aren't actually using PTVL (like a screensaver), and just leave PTVL open to that channel when you're away from your box.

[Zacharybinx34]

So what's the best method for updating channels? Right now I have it set so that it goes through all 200 and updates whenever I open PTVL.

This ends up making it take about 7-8 minutes just to open the program every time.

The only real fix I see is to use Settop Box mode (still a WIP, tho) and leave PTVL open all the time, with background updating. The only caveat (for me) is that leaving PTVL open means you have a stream playing (or local media), and to STOP the playback currently currently CLOSES PTVL.

If Luna finds enough reason to do so, he may be able to implement a way to STOP playback within PTVL (perhaps simultaneously defaulting to a non-streaming/non-media channel or something) without CLOSING PTVL also. Then you could leave PTVL open all the time, not tax your hardware with 24/7 playback, and still have automatic updates that won't suck up 7-8 minutes like you mention.

In the meantime, I'd recommend creating a dummy channel with a non-hardware-intensive video loop and just switch to that channel when you aren't actually using PTVL (like a screensaver), and just leave PTVL open to that channel when you're away from your box.

I just set it to Realtime for channel and then background updating on. Seems better.

Thanks!

[Lunatixz]

Can anyone help me get the OSD to show, at least when playing my own media.

I'm using a 360 controller if that's important, slightly modified layout, but the OSD button is still the same.

http://kodi.wiki/view/Xbox_360_Wireless_Controller

if you are using defaults, then it looks like the start button.

[arithine]

Can anyone help me get the OSD to show, at least when playing my own media.

I'm using a 360 controller if that's important, slightly modified layout, but the OSD button is still the same.

http://kodi.wiki/view/Xbox_360_Wireless_Controller

if you are using defaults, then it looks like the start button.

No luck, for me the osd is the x button but that doesn't do anything within pseudotv(I did dl a keymap from the internet thinking it was just default for editing reasons, but the x button has always been osd for me). The start button brings me to the home screen. What action would I need to map to the controller? (the m button on the keyboard doesnt work either)

[Lunatixz]

Can anyone help me get the OSD to show, at least when playing my own media.

I'm using a 360 controller if that's important, slightly modified layout, but the OSD button is still the same.

http://kodi.wiki/view/Xbox_360_Wireless_Controller

if you are using defaults, then it looks like the start button.

No luck, for me the osd is the x button but that doesn't do anything within pseudotv(I did dl a keymap from the internet thinking it was just default for editing reasons, but the x button has always been osd for me). The start button brings me to the home screen. What action would I need to map to the controller? (the m button on the keyboard doesnt work either)

'M' isn't the info OSD, try using the Keymap xbmc pluigin, you want to map "ACTION_SHOW_INFO"

[arithine]

http://kodi.wiki/view/Xbox_360_Wireless_Controller

if you are using defaults, then it looks like the start button.

No luck, for me the osd is the x button but that doesn't do anything within pseudotv(I did dl a keymap from the internet thinking it was just default for editing reasons, but the x button has always been osd for me). The start button brings me to the home screen. What action would I need to map to the controller? (the m button on the keyboard doesnt work either)

'M' isn't the info OSD, try using the Keymap xbmc pluigin, you want to map "ACTION_SHOW_INFO"

I am trying to get video osd.

[Lunatixz]

No luck, for me the osd is the x button but that doesn't do anything within pseudotv(I did dl a keymap from the internet thinking it was just default for editing reasons, but the x button has always been osd for me). The start button brings me to the home screen. What action would I need to map to the controller? (the m button on the keyboard doesnt work either)

'M' isn't the info OSD, try using the Keymap xbmc pluigin, you want to map "ACTION_SHOW_INFO"

I am trying to get video osd.

Not going to work, video osd is disabled... because of an odd bug in xbmc that triggers it during library updates...