[buzzqw]

Hi all

first of all sorry for newby questions!
I suppose that for all question the answer is YES, but i prefer to ask

1) for XBMC purpose having ad Intel HD 2000 or HD 4000 will bring same PQ and same playback capacity ?
2) different UE numbers don't bring different playback capacity or features ? (since madvr is out of question..)
3) quicksync (as decoder) will never be used on XBMC ?
4) Is this true for box windows/linux (OE) OS (using xbmc standard playback) ?

thanks!

BHH

[jammyb]

You don't make any sense.

HD2000 will do any 1080p 2D content. High bitrate, whatever. It'll do SBS 3D 1080p. But may struggle with full 3D.

The HD2000 is found normally with Celeron. 4000 with i3.

I have zero problems with HD2000.

[Dougie Fresh]

1) for XBMC purpose having ad Intel HD 2000 or HD 4000 will bring same PQ and same playback capacity ?

Correct, picture quality (PQ) will be the same for any of the Intel HD offerings (Intel HD, 2000/2500/3000/4000/4600)

2) different UE numbers don't bring different playback capacity or features ? (since madvr is out of question..)

Correct again, the number of execution units in the GPU does not affect playback PQ or even what bit-rate playback. Features are more to do with the driver which all the Intel HD offerings use the same driver or certain features like full 3D / QuickSync might be disabled in HW for certain Intel GPUs.

3) quicksync (as decoder) will never be used on XBMC ?

I am not sure what use QS would be for playback, so probably not.

4) Is this true for box windows/linux (OE) OS (using xbmc standard playback) ?

Yes, all of the above is true for playback on either Windows or Linux/OE

In general, for 1080p playback, there is no PQ difference across the range of Intel GPUs. The one big feature difference between Intel HD vs Intel HD2x00/3x00/4x00 is support for 3D. Intel HD will support SBS 3D (HDMI 1.3) whereas 2x00/3x00/4xx0 will support full 3D (HDMI 1.4 - frame packing, etc.). The software, driver and A/V equipment needs to support these features as well of course.

Intel HD is found in the Pentium/Celeron line
Intel HD2000 in Intel i3-2x00, i5-2x00
Intel HD3000 in Intel i3-2xx5, i5-2xx5, i7-2xxx
Intel HD2500 in Intel i3-3xx0, i5-3xx0 (except P processors which have no GPU)
Intel HD4000 in Intel i3-3xx5, i5-3xx5, i7-3xxx

SandyBridge chart here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge
IvyBridge chart here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge...hitecture)
Haswell chart here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(m...hitecture)

[buzzqw]

thanks a a lot Dougie Fresh!

I am not sure what use QS would be for playback, so probably not.

LAV/FFDshow can use QuickSync for fast decoding (windows)

BHH

[Mighty5nake]

1) for XBMC purpose having ad Intel HD 2000 or HD 4000 will bring same PQ and same playback capacity ?

Correct, picture quality (PQ) will be the same for any of the Intel HD offerings (Intel HD, 2000/2500/3000/4000/4600)

2) different UE numbers don't bring different playback capacity or features ? (since madvr is out of question..)

Correct again, the number of execution units in the GPU does not affect playback PQ or even what bit-rate playback. Features are more to do with the driver which all the Intel HD offerings use the same driver or certain features like full 3D / QuickSync might be disabled in HW for certain Intel GPUs.

3) quicksync (as decoder) will never be used on XBMC ?

I am not sure what use QS would be for playback, so probably not.

4) Is this true for box windows/linux (OE) OS (using xbmc standard playback) ?

Yes, all of the above is true for playback on either Windows or Linux/OE

In general, for 1080p playback, there is no PQ difference across the range of Intel GPUs. The one big feature difference between Intel HD vs Intel HD2x00/3x00/4x00 is support for 3D. Intel HD will support SBS 3D (HDMI 1.3) whereas 2x00/3x00/4xx0 will support full 3D (HDMI 1.4 - frame packing, etc.). The software, driver and A/V equipment needs to support these features as well of course.

Intel HD is found in the Pentium/Celeron line
Intel HD2000 in Intel i3-2x00, i5-2x00
Intel HD3000 in Intel i3-2xx5, i5-2xx5, i7-2xxx
Intel HD2500 in Intel i3-3xx0, i5-3xx0 (except P processors which have no GPU)
Intel HD4000 in Intel i3-3xx5, i5-3xx5, i7-3xxx

SandyBridge chart here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge
IvyBridge chart here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge...hitecture)
Haswell chart here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(m...hitecture)

thanx for the fine explenation , i'm putting together a Fanless HTPC build and i'm searching the forums for some logic in all the different mobo's and cpu's / Gpu's ...

so i suppose when i take a mobo with a I3 or I5 cpu , and the onboard HD4000 , all the media will play without doubt. only thing i'm curious for is how it handles the menu's ?

with a heavy skin i looking for a GPU that dusnt slows things up , is the HD4000 enough for this ?

excuse me for the bad engish

friendly greetings ,wesley

[noggin]

thanks a a lot Dougie Fresh!

I am not sure what use QS would be for playback, so probably not.

LAV/FFDshow can use QuickSync for fast decoding (windows)

BHH

Yes - Intel's Quicksync branding is really confusing.

All Intel HD GPUs appear to have hardware acceleration for H264/VC-1 (and I think MPEG2) decoding. This is sometimes branded, confusingly, as Quicksync.

However the feature that Intel list as Quicksync - and which is NOT presenter in all Intel HD implementations is hardware accelerated encoding - which is used for re-encoding content (say converting DVD to H264 for Tablet viewing, or converting AVC Video from your DSLR to another format)