Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail 2013 edition - DN2820FYKH)

  Thread Rating:
  • 5 Votes - 5 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Post Reply
mastermaybe Offline
Junior Member
Posts: 9
Joined: Dec 2014
Reputation: 0
Post: #1831
I've tried everything I can find and cannot get this to work. I KNOW I have watched VC1 titles on this nuc before without this issue!

James

(2014-12-19 02:03)scarecrow420 Wrote:  dont know if im missing something but those images are too small to actually read

should be fixed now, sorry.

James
(This post was last modified: 2014-12-19 03:14 by mastermaybe.)
find quote
mastermaybe Offline
Junior Member
Posts: 9
Joined: Dec 2014
Reputation: 0
Post: #1832
Well, call me crazy, but upon a total wipe and reload...I was still having issues in the default settings.

Then though I saw an option in "acceleration" called "Waapi vc-1" and wholla...no drops. I SWEAR I didn't see this before-- musta went through these settings a dozen times.

!!!

James
find quote
noggin Offline
Posting Freak
Posts: 1,083
Joined: Oct 2008
Reputation: 31
Location: United Kingdom
Post: #1833
I think the only warning about VAAPI VC-1 decoding is that, AIUI, it doesn't support interlaced VC-1 content, only progressive? (Intel driver limitation?)
find quote
fritsch Offline
Team-XBMC Developer
Posts: 7,379
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 167
Location: Karlsruhe
Post: #1834
(2014-12-19 12:00)noggin Wrote:  I think the only warning about VAAPI VC-1 decoding is that, AIUI, it doesn't support interlaced VC-1 content, only progressive? (Intel driver limitation?)

Correct. It dates back to a time, when intel just asserted when you played VC-1 interlace. In the meantime it will just produce black images.

So, yes it's safe for progressive content.

"Your most vocal users are not reflective of your userbase" J.M.

Audio Engine: SPDIF has only 2 pcm channels. DTS, AC3 are encoded via those 2 channels. It's obviously clear that you are not able to change Speaker Layout when running via SPDIF.
No help without a proper Debug Log
find quote
mastermaybe Offline
Junior Member
Posts: 9
Joined: Dec 2014
Reputation: 0
Post: #1835
At that is my only option right? So I simply cannot playback 1080i concerts? I must be wrong cause I swear- again- I played back some 1080i shows months ago that seemed to look good-- even on my 160" outdoor screen lol.

Thanks guys
James
find quote
kokoro Offline
Junior Member
Posts: 32
Joined: May 2011
Reputation: 0
Post: #1836
Hi,
my Zotac gf9300-itx motherboard just died and I was thinking about a DN2820FYKH to replace it (I already have a D34010WYKH i3 Nuc in my office), and install Kodi on it as I did before with my Zotac build. I would like to re-use my 5.1 Creative analog surround sound system (3 separate mini-jacks for center-left-right-surround and sub) which was plugged right into my motherboard through 3 separate mini-jack plugs for it. The DN2820FYKH doen't have an analog output, so is buying an external USB sound card the only choice I have? I would like to avoid to purchase a digital amplifier with a set of speakers cause it looks ugly in a bedroom. Thanks.
find quote
noggin Offline
Posting Freak
Posts: 1,083
Joined: Oct 2008
Reputation: 31
Location: United Kingdom
Post: #1837
(2014-12-19 15:47)mastermaybe Wrote:  At that is my only option right? So I simply cannot playback 1080i concerts? I must be wrong cause I swear- again- I played back some 1080i shows months ago that seemed to look good-- even on my 160" outdoor screen lol.

Thanks guys
James

AIUI you can't replay 1080i VC-1 content with VAAPI hardware decode acceleration. 1080p/720p VC-1 stuff is also fine with VAAPI hardware decode acceleration.
H264/AVC and MPEG2 1080i content is fine with VAAPI hardware decode acceleration.

For 1080i VC-1 content you need to use software decoding on the Intel platform, and I don't know if the CPU In the Baytrail is capable of software decoding VC-1. Also from memory it can't quite do YADIF 2x de-interlacing and may be limited to Bob?
(This post was last modified: Yesterday 13:05 by noggin.)
find quote
fritsch Offline
Team-XBMC Developer
Posts: 7,379
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 167
Location: Karlsruhe
Post: #1838
(Yesterday 13:03)noggin Wrote:  
(2014-12-19 15:47)mastermaybe Wrote:  At that is my only option right? So I simply cannot playback 1080i concerts? I must be wrong cause I swear- again- I played back some 1080i shows months ago that seemed to look good-- even on my 160" outdoor screen lol.

Thanks guys
James

AIUI you can't replay 1080i VC-1 content with VAAPI hardware decode acceleration. 1080p/720p VC-1 stuff is also fine with VAAPI hardware decode acceleration.
H264/AVC and MPEG2 1080i content is fine with VAAPI hardware decode acceleration.

For 1080i VC-1 content you need to use software decoding on the Intel platform, and I don't know if the CPU In the Baytrail is capable of software decoding VC-1. Also from memory it can't quite do YADIF 2x de-interlacing and may be limited to Bob?

Your memory is correct.

"Your most vocal users are not reflective of your userbase" J.M.

Audio Engine: SPDIF has only 2 pcm channels. DTS, AC3 are encoded via those 2 channels. It's obviously clear that you are not able to change Speaker Layout when running via SPDIF.
No help without a proper Debug Log
find quote
dirtydesaster Offline
Junior Member
Posts: 45
Joined: Dec 2010
Reputation: 0
Location: Erfurt/Germany
Post: #1839
Is anybody using Windows 8.1 and Live-TV?

Is there any chance for deinterlacing?
find quote
fritsch Offline
Team-XBMC Developer
Posts: 7,379
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 167
Location: Karlsruhe
Post: #1840
I currently would not suggest Windows 8.1 at all for Kodi. Cause we don't have any active developers that test DXVA on Windows 8.1 - All the development was done on Windows 7. Furthermore our implementation still bases on DX9, so you might experience real sever issues.

Edit: Most sane devs, just skipped Windows 8.1, cause it's not usable at all for anything else besides cooking coffee or something

"Your most vocal users are not reflective of your userbase" J.M.

Audio Engine: SPDIF has only 2 pcm channels. DTS, AC3 are encoded via those 2 channels. It's obviously clear that you are not able to change Speaker Layout when running via SPDIF.
No help without a proper Debug Log
(This post was last modified: Yesterday 23:00 by fritsch.)
find quote
nickr Offline
Donor
Posts: 9,924
Joined: May 2009
Reputation: 179
Location: Christchurch NZ
Post: #1841
(Yesterday 23:00)fritsch Wrote:  I currently would not suggest Windows 8.1 at all for Kodi. Cause we don't have any active developers that test DXVA on Windows 8.1 - All the development was done on Windows 7. Furthermore our implementation still bases on DX9, so you might experience real sever issues.

Edit: Most sane devs, just skipped Windows 8.1, cause it's not usable at all for anything else besides cooking coffee or something
Lol

If I have helped you or increased your knowledge, click the plus button and increase my reputation :)
find quote
dirtydesaster Offline
Junior Member
Posts: 45
Joined: Dec 2010
Reputation: 0
Location: Erfurt/Germany
Post: #1842
(Yesterday 23:00)fritsch Wrote:  I currently would not suggest Windows 8.1 at all for Kodi. Cause we don't have any active developers that test DXVA on Windows 8.1 - All the development was done on Windows 7. Furthermore our implementation still bases on DX9, so you might experience real sever issues.

Edit: Most sane devs, just skipped Windows 8.1, cause it's not usable at all for anything else besides cooking coffee or something

OK, Thanks for the Info. Normally I use also Win7, but Win8.1 has a very good boot time (much faster than Win7 @ my setup)
find quote
Post Reply