[fritsch]

Thx very much for your detailled analysis on the bugtracker: I hope to get a wait max 30 seconds into Helix: https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/6659 - I think it's quite unlikely to have more than 15 sound devices.

[fritsch]

Here is the mentioned testbuild: http://mirrors.xbmc.org/test-builds/win3...ease20.exe

[HerbCSO]

Awesome, thanks @fritsch. Although, it does seem that some folks actually do have 15+ audio devices if they use their system for audio production as well - see post http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=...pid1941272 in this thread for one case. I'm guessing that for @Zytrel diabling audio devices to get below the timeout wouldn't be such a great workaround... That being said, it should at least address the majority of users' issues. Maybe we can at least add a warning if more than 15 audio devies are detected that startup will likely time out? Or we set a timeout of # of devies * 2.1s (don't know if the list or number of devices is available before initialization, of course - although it does seem to be able to spit out the whole list even when timing out)?

[fritsch]

The majority of users (currently some millions) could live very good with the 10 seconds we had :-). Problem here is, that the init does not yet know about how many devices we have ... therefore it cannot dynamically wait. There is another problem: If users without audio devices tried to start kodi - they would not see anything for 60 seconds and likely will do another double click.

[Ace]

Not sure if possible with our code and just a thought, but you could mimic dynamic wait by "resetting the timer" each time a device was found. Ofc there's a little chance to wait for ever.

[fritsch]

That needs more code in the implementation of the state machine. As for now we only have sync and non sync messages with fixed timings.

I think: https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/6659#i...t-77811511 will tell us exactly why waiting needs that long time.

[Asphyx]

Thx very much for your detailled analysis on the bugtracker: I hope to get a wait max 30 seconds into Helix: https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/6659 - I think it's quite unlikely to have more than 15 sound devices.

Not Unlikely for users who have added a high End Audio card to replace an onboard audio system.
That alone can be 6-8 devices right there then throw in any HDMI Audio devices and you are quickly at 10.
My issue may be related to a DRM removal tool that adds a bunch of Virtual Audio devices so it can do multiple Audio files at the same time.
Which is why I'm probably way over 15.
My HTPC is doing a lot more than just acting as an HTPC...
It also runs my Plex Server and does the majority of my Ripping, Encoding and Merging needed before I put stuff into my Library.
Which is why I have two Video Cards installed one for working on those media functions and one dedicated to XBMC output.

Also why I won't be whining anytime about this issue because in some small way it is my own doing. LOL

[pharmeceutikle]

14.2 RC has been released. Has anyone tried it yet? Would we still need a special build for the "Unable to create" bug?

[fritsch]

The workaround was pushed - so all is in that should make it work: https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/commit/fd9b...bca69a5add

[pharmeceutikle]

The workaround was pushed - so all is in that should make it work: https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/commit/fd9b...bca69a5add

Awesome! Thanks, I will update Kodi as soon as I get home.

[Asphyx]

The workaround was pushed - so all is in that should make it work: https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/commit/fd9b...bca69a5add

Thanks for all your help and hand holding through all of this!

[laola]

Hi - out of the sudden I do have the same problem.

Since almost 2 years I am using XBMC / Kodi without any major issue. Since the day one, I am using V15 also without any major issue on several devices. However, today I started my computer (without modifying anything since I turned it off yesterday) the error message came up. Tried to install the V15 beta 1 again - no success. Tried to start the latest hightly (19 May) - no success :-( I can't try V14 because the mySQL server is also running V15...

I do have 3 audio devices and I didn't touch the drivers or changes anything related to the audio devices. So I am on the lost...

I thing I did yesterday - I deactivated the "Beck-up" Plug-in in Kodi - but I don't think it is related to this, isn't it ?

[fritsch]

No idea ... continue speculating or consider posting a Debug Log

[laola]

You're right- sorry.

However, I just inserted "<loglevel>2</loglevel>" in the advancedsettings.xlm, but the kodi.log in the Kodi folder (one folder above the userdata folder) file is just empty.
There are tow addionalfiles - xbmc_stacktrace.....txt and xbmx_crashlog....dmp.

The ...txt files are as follows:
Thread 988 (process 3488)
# 0
# 1
# 2
# 3
# 4
# 5 BaseThreadInitThunk
# 6 RtlInitializeExceptionChain
# 7 RtlInitializeExceptionChain
The thread number and process number chances with every attemp to start Kodi - the rest remains the same. The ...dmp file I can't read this file with an editor - what shall I do with this file ?

[laola]

After a clean install of Kodi (uninstalled and deleted everthing first, then reinstall) Kodi is working again...