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wripet · 2015-02-09, 01:05

I am planning on building a nice new HTPC which should be not to expensive.

The only things I require are 6xSATA III connections, maybe 1600MHz RAM (not necessarily) and one 1000MBit LAN, the motherboards size should not be bigger than micro ATX.

I came up with combination above. The remaining question now is:

Will this setup be capable of 4k@60Hz? Didn't really find anything about 60Hz playback. AFAIK, the 1840 can do 4k.

Stereodude · 2015-02-09, 05:18

Not unless it has a HDMI 2.0 or DisplayPort output.

wripet · 2015-02-09, 09:08

So, hdmi 2.0 is always required for 4k@60Hz?

wripet · 2015-02-09, 09:18

Ok, I just checked the hdmi-specs, and yes hdmi 2.0 is the first version to support that.

wrxtasy · 2015-02-09, 11:59

It looks like the new Intel Broadwell NUC's can display 4k@60Hz...

http://www.digitaltrends.com/desktop-com...yk-review/

Stereodude · 2015-02-09, 15:35

(2015-02-09, 09:08)wripet Wrote: So, hdmi 2.0 is always required for 4k@60Hz?

Generally yes. Nvidia added 60Hz 3840x2160 to some of their HDMI 1.4a video cards with a driver update that allowed the use of 4:2:0 color. HDMI 2.0 added 4:2:0 color to the spec. Prior versions only supported 4:2:2 and 4:4:4. That may be possible for other hardware with some driver tweaks

Stereodude · 2015-02-09, 15:39

(2015-02-09, 11:59)wrxtasy Wrote: It looks like the new Intel Broadwell NUC's can display 4k@60Hz...

http://www.digitaltrends.com/desktop-com...yk-review/

Not via HDMI. It doesn't have HDMI 2.0. You need to use DisplayPort. Broadwell isn't unique in the ability to do "4k" via DisplayPort. I'm pretty sure a Chromebox can do "4k" via DisplayPort.

wripet · 2015-02-09, 15:44

(2015-02-09, 11:59)wrxtasy Wrote: It looks like the new Intel Broadwell NUC's can display 4k@60Hz...

http://www.digitaltrends.com/desktop-com...yk-review/

That thing is a total overkill for my purpose. The setup I posted above costs roughly €100. The NUC is at least three times that price.

wrxtasy · (This post was last modified: 2015-02-09, 16:05 by wrxtasy.)

(2015-02-09, 15:44)wripet Wrote: That thing is a total overkill for my purpose. The setup I posted above costs roughly €100. The NUC is at least three times that price.

I think your not at all being realistic asking for 6xSATA III connections and 4K@60Hz in a HTPC at a cheap price.
What you are looking for is a called a NAS (Networked Attached Storage) server with a whole bunch of internal drives.

Then a normal Chromebox running Openelec will meet your needs but only play video only at 4K@24/30p (23.976/30fps)
This will be a far more flexible system and really the best way to go for a home entertainment setup with huge mass storage and very good video at a reasonable price.

See the Important Threads at the top of this section of the forum for NAS recommendations.
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wrxtasy · (This post was last modified: 2015-02-09, 16:13 by wrxtasy.)

(2015-02-09, 15:39)Stereodude Wrote: Not via HDMI. It doesn't have HDMI 2.0. You need to use DisplayPort. Broadwell isn't unique in the ability to do "4k" via DisplayPort. I'm pretty sure a Chromebox can do "4k" via DisplayPort.

Thats not what the OP asked in Post #1, Haswell GPU/VPU in the Chromebox can only output 4K at up to 30Hz.
Not 4K@60Hz.
Please read the Chromebox Wiki again.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7007/intel...spective/7

Stereodude · (This post was last modified: 2015-02-09, 17:00 by Stereodude.)

(2015-02-09, 16:11)wrxtasy Wrote: Thats not what the OP asked in Post #1, Haswell GPU/VPU in the Chromebox can only output 4K at up to 30Hz.
Not 4K@60Hz.
Please read the Chromebox Wiki again.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7007/intel...spective/7

That's not true. Haswell (U) has DisplayPort 1.2 which can drive 3820x2160 @60Hz in RGB (4:4:4) using MST. It can't do it in SST. Only the desktop SKU's can do it in SST.

I'm talking about DisplayPort on Haswell and you link me to an article about HDMI output under Haswell. Confused

The HDMI output capability of Broadwell and Haswell are the same.

The Chromebox wiki does not address the capabilities of DisplayPort.

wrxtasy · 2015-02-09, 17:43

(2015-02-09, 16:53)Stereodude Wrote: That's not true. Haswell (U) has DisplayPort 1.2 which can drive 3820x2160 @60Hz in RGB (4:4:4) using MST.

Are you really really sure ?
I still disagree with you and so do Intel...
I mean what would Intel know about Haswell anyway:

http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=...pid1920921

Apologies for hijacking the thread Wink

wrxtasy · (This post was last modified: 2015-02-09, 17:45 by wrxtasy.)

wripet · 2015-02-09, 18:34

(2015-02-09, 16:02)wrxtasy Wrote:
(2015-02-09, 15:44)wripet Wrote: That thing is a total overkill for my purpose. The setup I posted above costs roughly €100. The NUC is at least three times that price.

I think your not at all being realistic asking for 6xSATA III connections and 4K@60Hz in a HTPC at a cheap price.
What you are looking for is a called a NAS (Networked Attached Storage) server with a whole bunch of internal drives.

Then a normal Chromebox running Openelec will meet your needs but only play video only at 4K@24/30p (23.976/30fps)
This will be a far more flexible system and really the best way to go for a home entertainment setup with huge mass storage and very good video at a reasonable price.

See the Important Threads at the top of this section of the forum for NAS recommendations.
Here for Chromebox
!!
!!
V

Ok, I just found out that the Mobo above only has only 2 Sata III, but there are definitely some H87 mini-ITX that have 6 SATA ports.

And yes, I know what a NAS is, they are all way more expensive than what I'm going for. Please, give me one good reason why a mini-ITX board shouldn't work with, let's say 4 HDDs.