Android Announcement: Android 5.0 S812 with MIMO AC Wifi
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Geniatech ATV1900AC Quad Core Android TV Box features Quad core processor, 2.0GHz and Android 5.0 OS. ATV1900AC is able to H.265 hardware decodong and UHD (4K2k) video and supports 2.4Ghz/5.0Ghz WIFI 2T2R with 2 external WIFI Antenna.
http://www.geniatech.com/pa/atv1900ac.asp
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#2
Is it Android TV OS or plain Android 5.x? Should be careful with the wording, now.
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I think its the plain Android 5 os. It does not say Android TV OS anywhere on their website.
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Also see http://www.mygica.com/html/news/Company_...6/108.html

Some more info about Geniatech / Mygica ATV1900AC on cnx-software.com blog:

http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/04/07/m...-lollipop/

ATV1900AC specifications:

SoC – Amlogic S812 quad core cortex A9r4 @ 2 GHz with Mali-450MP6 GPU
System Memory – 2GB DDR3
Storage – 16GB eMMC flash + micro SD card reader
Connectivity – Gigabit Ethernet, 802.11 b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi 2T2R
Video Output – HDMI 1.4
Audio Output – HDMI, optical S/PDIF
Video Codec – H.265 up to 4K2K, H.264, etc…
USB – 4x USB 2.0 host ports
Misc – IR receiver, reset pinhole, power button, network and power LEDs
Power Supply – 5V/2A
Dimensions – 168 x 132 x 21 mm
Weight – 300 grams.

Android 5.0 Lollipop firmware will also alledgedly include YouTube/Netflix TV app with support for 1080p and 4K2K support, as well as a custom version of Kodi 14.1. Voice search and OTA update will also be enabled. I’ve been in contact with some developers working on Android 5.0 on Amlogic S802 and S812, and I’ve been told the system feels much faster with Lollipop compared to Kitkat.

Price will be $169 US (MSRP), and Mygica ATV1900AC should become available by the end of April.
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HD Netflix on a chinese box? I wouldn't take their word on that, unless Netflix has very recently relaxed their certification program.
Anyway, unless they use the Android TV version of the apps, they are hardly usable with a remote.

So, big question, why not Android TV? It makes so much more sense for a STB...
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Hmm I wonder if Google is blocking chinese OEMs from using Android TV. Or if there are other factors involved with it. Aka they cant really use it becuase of google stipulations on what can and can not be done with Android TV OS. While Android 5.0 is open source for anyone to modify.
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(2015-04-10, 16:31)Koying Wrote: HD Netflix on a chinese box? I wouldn't take their word on that, unless Netflix has very recently relaxed their certification program.
Well, Geniatech isn't just a fly-by-night Chinese company manufacturing dime a dozen Android boxes.

It could surprise me if Geniatech doesn't support all prerequisite DRM specification required by Netflix.

(2015-04-10, 16:31)Koying Wrote: So, big question, why not Android TV? It makes so much more sense for a STB...
Movies & TV on Google Play content on Android TV is still primary marketed at the Americas and Europe.

https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2843119

My guess for reason why it doesn't use Android TV is that they're mainly targeting the Chinese market.
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I prefer to stay away from this China devices mainly due bad support. Geniatech devices are not Google GMS certified, so all apps relying on DRM support will not work and I doubt if Netflix in HD will work at this device.

Keep in mind that Geniatech already have few S8xx based devices on market but they preffer not to upgrade them to Android 5.x, but what they prefer is to release new device high priced to splash some cash from our pockets.

Geniatech use amlogic SDK so it is not pure Android 5.x it is Android with chinese crappy launcher and apps inside. I had one of their devices in past and after no Android update I was forced to sell it as there was many issues.
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(2015-04-10, 17:27)Topken Wrote: Hmm I wonder if Google is blocking chinese OEMs from using Android TV. Or if there are other factors involved with it. Aka they cant really use it becuase of google stipulations on what can and can not be done with Android TV OS. While Android 5.0 is open source for anyone to modify.

Is not blocking but Chinese companies dont want to pay for GMS certification to have proper support, as they simply dont care. As I stated in my previous post, Geniatech already have S805 and S802 devices on market but they refuse to release Android 5.x, as they like more to make new device and to sell it at overpriced price of 169 USD which is insane these days.... At least for this price they could introduce air mouse as Koying said, using it with IR RCU no sense....

Every rockchip, allwinner and amlogic oem device have OTA & Backup app, but of course we never saw any OTA really served from them, as when You click check for online update you never get anything as simply update is not posted nor server address for download is set...
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The Android 5 os may be is the forum's theme,as there are no where had say something about the Android TV.
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(2015-04-13, 15:40)techespaces Wrote: I prefer to stay away from this China devices mainly due bad support. Geniatech devices are not Google GMS certified, so all apps relying on DRM support will not work and I doubt if Netflix in HD will work at this device.

Keep in mind that Geniatech already have few S8xx based devices on market but they preffer not to upgrade them to Android 5.x, but what they prefer is to release new device high priced to splash some cash from our pockets.

Geniatech use amlogic SDK so it is not pure Android 5.x it is Android with chinese crappy launcher and apps inside. I had one of their devices in past and after no Android update I was forced to sell it as there was many issues.
Ok, seems like you have a pair of non-transparent glasses, look at here to learn more about Geniatech GMS ceritified ATV581 box: https://support.google.com/googleplay/an...4891?hl=en

And keep in mind that here is DRM that Geniatech already supported: http://www.microsoft.com/playready/licensing/list/ and here: http://www.verimatrix.com/partners/set-top-box-vendors

Geniatech just likes anyone else, uses SDK from chipset vendor, and none can do it with that.

ATV1900AC has 11A/C MIMO wifi and it is S812 based, it is just baked and Android5.0 come over at the same time, very simple reason.
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(2015-04-13, 15:42)techespaces Wrote:
(2015-04-10, 17:27)Topken Wrote: Hmm I wonder if Google is blocking chinese OEMs from using Android TV. Or if there are other factors involved with it. Aka they cant really use it becuase of google stipulations on what can and can not be done with Android TV OS. While Android 5.0 is open source for anyone to modify.

Is not blocking but Chinese companies dont want to pay for GMS certification to have proper support, as they simply dont care. As I stated in my previous post, Geniatech already have S805 and S802 devices on market but they refuse to release Android 5.x, as they like more to make new device and to sell it at overpriced price of 169 USD which is insane these days.... At least for this price they could introduce air mouse as Koying said, using it with IR RCU no sense....

Every rockchip, allwinner and amlogic oem device have OTA & Backup app, but of course we never saw any OTA really served from them, as when You click check for online update you never get anything as simply update is not posted nor server address for download is set...
Android 5.0 is open source and Geniatech has the ability to tweak it first and bring the beauty of ART performance to its users, is that wrong?
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@dual_HD

It is not like that as You think Smile

http://openlinux.amlogic.com/Android/Mbox

http://openlinux.amlogic.com/Android/Mbo...eleaseInfo

Same day released for S802, S805 and S812, but as I said Geniatech prefer to release new device and keep old devices non-updated, if you know what I mean. Why their strategy is like that i really cant understand

For this reason i stay away from their products, when issue appear.... no answers.

Btw. Geniatech have for some OTT boxes Verimatrix (like in Ukraine and Russia, small telecom operators using their device for OTT operations), but of course you will not find it in consumer products, as it cost.

Real and good question is why they never go beyond simple SDK compilation and fix some bugs in their firmware, which if you follow this Android devices is full of them (S805, S802 at least).
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(2015-04-15, 03:30)techespaces Wrote: @dual_HD

It is not like that as You think Smile

http://openlinux.amlogic.com/Android/Mbox

http://openlinux.amlogic.com/Android/Mbo...eleaseInfo

Same day released for S802, S805 and S812, but as I said Geniatech prefer to release new device and keep old devices non-updated, if you know what I mean. Why their strategy is like that i really cant understand

For this reason i stay away from their products, when issue appear.... no answers.

Btw. Geniatech have for some OTT boxes Verimatrix (like in Ukraine and Russia, small telecom operators using their device for OTT operations), but of course you will not find it in consumer products, as it cost.

Real and good question is why they never go beyond simple SDK compilation and fix some bugs in their firmware, which if you follow this Android devices is full of them (S805, S802 at least).
Very simple, new product using the new OS is the first step, nobody said noway to get S805 upgradable later. Even Apple can not support very old devices when new IOS version released, and the policy of which model first is almost new model first.
And what I am saying for DRM it is not that Geniatech doesn't have DRM, actually they have, you said they can not load verimatrix, it is different 2 topics, please do not mix them up.
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So what exactly is the story with these "Android TV" boxes, Chinese or otherwise? If they run Android 4.4.x and up then they should look fine on a TV. If they have access to the Play store then they can at least download Netflix. Is it possible that these boxes can run the Netflix app and not be able to output to a TV? Seems every ad I see for them has Netflix advertised. The boxes have a crazy range of prices. Is there a simple way of knowing if a box doesn't run Netflix on a TV via HDMI?

At $60 these are throw away items. As long as they work support for older hardware would seem to be irrelevant.
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