Video Level Scaling/Clipping Questions
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(2016-11-11, 23:13)TScott Wrote: I have flipped these settings back and forth on both computers and do not see any effect on the options displayed in Kodi.

right, because on Windows Kodi doesn't control (or try to work around) the driver setting, it just uses whatever is currently set.
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V.17 11/11/16 nightly on Windows 10 PC.

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#18
(2016-11-12, 01:54)brazen1 Wrote: Image

V.17 11/11/16 nightly on Windows 10 PC.

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The Kodi menu setting is slightly misleading. It is mainly there to let you force Kodi to output 16-235 within 0-255, rather than let your driver scale 0-255 to 16-235. In some situations - if your TV doesn't interpret HDMI Infoframes correctly, you can set your driver to RGB 0-255 and Kodi to 16-235, and you will get RGB 16-235 Limited without clipping of BTB and WTW and with reduced banding due to scaling ranges. However the HDMI Infoframe may well flag RGB Full range - and newer TVs may thus switch from Limited to Full, giving you grey blacks and washed out colours.

I haven't played with nVidia or Intel drivers enough under Windows to see how they handle Infoframes. (Intel's Linux drivers have support for it - but fritsch et al have tweaked drivers to allow them to be more usefully used with 16-235-in-0-255 situations)
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(2016-11-12, 14:30)noggin Wrote: I haven't played with nVidia or Intel drivers enough under Windows to see how they handle Infoframes. (Intel's Linux drivers have support for it - but fritsch et al have tweaked drivers to allow them to be more usefully used with 16-235-in-0-255 situations)
On Windows nVIDIA doesn't transmit quantization range. For Intel you have to specifically select Full/Limited, if you leave it at "Default Range", it doesn't transmit the quantization range. I haven't checked AMD.
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#20
(2016-11-12, 14:30)noggin Wrote: The Kodi menu setting is slightly misleading. It is mainly there to let you force Kodi to output 16-235 within 0-255, rather than let your driver scale 0-255 to 16-235. In some situations - if your TV doesn't interpret HDMI Infoframes correctly, you can set your driver to RGB 0-255 and Kodi to 16-235, and you will get RGB 16-235 Limited without clipping of BTB and WTW and with reduced banding due to scaling ranges. However the HDMI Infoframe may well flag RGB Full range - and newer TVs may thus switch from Limited to Full, giving you grey blacks and washed out colours.

I haven't played with nVidia or Intel drivers enough under Windows to see how they handle Infoframes. (Intel's Linux drivers have support for it - but fritsch et al have tweaked drivers to allow them to be more usefully used with 16-235-in-0-255 situations)

Thank you, that makes sense. I am going to try updating Kodi and set as you suggest. I bought a bluray player and it is sending the proper range to the TV as I am seeing the below black levels on the test disc.
More tweaking to do...
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