2016-05-12, 10:12
Doesn't matter what is legal in the UK/EU. Kodi Foundation is based in the US and is justifiably basing it's policies on US law and the associated paranoia.
(2016-05-12, 09:40)quincyquinn Wrote: Streaming is legal in the EU....for the time been.
On 5 June 2014, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) ruled that streaming illegal content online is legal in Europe. The Boy Genius Report weblog noted that "As long as an Internet user is streaming copyrighted content online ... it’s legal for the user, who isn’t willfully making a copy of said content. If the user only views it directly through a web browser, streaming it from a website that hosts it, he or she is apparently doing nothing wrong."
https://torrentfreak.com/is-streaming-pi...de-151012/
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(2016-05-10, 18:19)Big Aero Wrote:(2016-05-09, 13:54)PJDavis1970 Wrote: I tried to explain that kodi does not support that kind of thing and the plugins were actually allowing her to illegally watch copyrighted content. At the point I realised I was wasting my time due to the confused look on both women faces.
Streaming copyright content is legal in the UK........
(2016-05-12, 15:46)Big Aero Wrote: Its plain and simple, there is no law in europe (currently) to say one can be prosecuted for watching copyright material for free online - therefor the OP is wrong to tell these woman that they were breaking the law by watching copyright content - no wonder you confused them 8-)
(2016-05-12, 15:53)Ned Scott Wrote:(2016-05-12, 15:46)Big Aero Wrote: Its plain and simple, there is no law in europe (currently) to say one can be prosecuted for watching copyright material for free online - therefor the OP is wrong to tell these woman that they were breaking the law by watching copyright content - no wonder you confused them 8-)
You're forgetting that, even if that does turn out to be the case, it still violates most ISP's ToS/contract. Plus, OP's point was to inform these people that the content was not coming from legitimate sources.
(2016-05-12, 07:18)jjd-uk Wrote:(2016-05-10, 18:19)Big Aero Wrote:(2016-05-09, 13:54)PJDavis1970 Wrote: I tried to explain that kodi does not support that kind of thing and the plugins were actually allowing her to illegally watch copyrighted content. At the point I realised I was wasting my time due to the confused look on both women faces.
Streaming copyright content is legal in the UK........
No it's not.
In fact it's become so high profile as an illegal activity the police have started to raid ths major suppliers of boxes (since it's too difficult to go after individual users), just a couple of examples
https://torrentfreak.com/police-raid-pir...ed-160318/
https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-android-...ce-150612/
(2016-05-12, 09:56)jjd-uk Wrote: Your link says nothing of the sort, what it does state is that the legality of streaming of content in violation of copyright has been referred to tbe EU Court of Justice for them to make a ruling tbat would apply EU wide, and as far as I know there has been no ruling yet.
(2016-05-12, 18:45)Big Aero Wrote:(2016-05-12, 15:53)Ned Scott Wrote:(2016-05-12, 15:46)Big Aero Wrote: Its plain and simple, there is no law in europe (currently) to say one can be prosecuted for watching copyright material for free online - therefor the OP is wrong to tell these woman that they were breaking the law by watching copyright content - no wonder you confused them 8-)
You're forgetting that, even if that does turn out to be the case, it still violates most ISP's ToS/contract. Plus, OP's point was to inform these people that the content was not coming from legitimate sources.
If your trying to nitpick here and turn this into a "violation of ISP contract by streaming copyright material" thread, then what about the addons in Official Kodi repository - do they not violate terms and conditions for each and every website they grab from? If that's not the case, then what about the Netflix and Amazon Prime addons, which are freely discussed on the forum. The user definitely violates those contracts by using those addons.
If you actually think about it Kodi itself encourages users to violate various contracts. Please don't say otherwise, or else tell me exactly what Kodi was designed for.
(2016-05-12, 16:10)Woppie Wrote: I'd like to add a bit of a view on the topic, at least for my country, as to why people download or stream from "illegal" sources.
The problem is there's no real alternatives... not always.
Some series/films you simply can't get via over the top services like Netflix and the like, or they just offer certain seasons and not the newest.
With this global economy this isn't working out, availability should be the same within 24 hours... if you're lucky it's available within a week right now but more often than not you're out of luck.
Then you get the stupid geoblocking... I'm not talking about the traditional geoblocking here... let me explain.
If I want to watch a German show, I can't since it's not on the Dutch Netflix... there's no DVD's/Blu-rays... I simply cannot watch this show through any legal means.
Forgot to add; there's also 70/80/90s shows that never got a DVD release, would love 80's cartoons on ott services but most of the good stuff you simply can't get... I'm glad certain people captured VHS tapes and provide them on the internet.
The last thing I blame is the amount of services, or rather exclusivity... favourite series are all over the place and you'd need to shell out 3 times the money to have it all now.
No it's probably not right but these content creators/suppliers are as hard to blame really.
It's (was) pretty much the same with the music industry... and now they earn more money from streaming than loose tracks and physical CD's in my country... now that's telling us something.
Piracy is of all time, thinking you can stop it completely would be an illusion, some people are just not prepared to spend money.