Kodi 17 - Ubuntu freezing

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WelshPaul Offline
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Post: #16
Thanks for the feedback. As unfortunately I don't even know what language you are speaking any more I'm going to give up. I thought compositing was what we did with the kitchen waste.

I've got a set up that's 99% working for me, and it sounds like that's about as good as it gets without taking a programming degree or like Black_Eagle devoting 5 years to working it out through trial and error. Having just gone through the pain of converting from Windows I'm really not in the mood to have to understand whatever compositing is and testing it out various window managers.

Thanks anyway.
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@WelshPaul - a final thought, perhaps, although you're maybe not in the mood.

There's a fundamental difference between Linux and Windows, in that what you see - the Window manager, the graphics effects, the interface - is not a core part of Linux in the same way as it is on Windows. So, all this talk about window managers is about changing the way your particular installation of Linux appears: XFCE, Gnome, KDE, Flubox, LDE, they all do broadly the same thing but with different levels of "eye candy". Windows gives you a choice of just one, as does OSX on Apple.

Compositing is a term that comes up a lot in the film industry, in that it's the process of manipulating and combining digital images: think green screens and impossible effects. In terms of a PC, then, compositing is the process of manipulating the desktop and window images so they look really swish - 3D effects, swoosh in and out, transparency, shadows, and so on. You may want these, as they look cool, but they typically add nothing to the underlying drag/resize/overlay functions, and just take up CPU power. So, as a rule, lightweight window managers do without these bells and whistles so as not to strain limited CPU and memory. (If I remember correctly, Microsoft introduced compositing with Vista, hence the Aero theme and all those glass effects).

On your system, which may easily have the grunt to run all those effects, you clearly don't *need* a lightweight window manager. However, if there is a clash between Compiz (which is the compositor you have) and an outdated graphics driver, then you can see how you've ended up here. Kodi in itself doesn't care what window manager you use, it's more that it's showing up whatever clash/bug is biting you. There's probably some way of disabling or removing Compiz entirely, or trying a different compositor if that's where you want to go; if you just want to use the thing, then try a couple of variations and see what works and what you like.

FWIW, I'm typing this on a 4th gen overclocked i7 system - that runs a non-compositing version of Xfce. I don't care too much for fancy effects, and am happy with a lighter window manager as a result. The beauty of Linux is that you can, of course, install pretty much every different desktop at the same time if you wish, and just see what works: the "Kodi skin" analogy was that each window manager is just that, a skin for the underlying operating system. Think Windows themes, but really taken up a notch.
(This post was last modified: 2016-09-30 12:40 by Prof Yaffle.)
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Thanks Prof, I didn't mean to sound churlish, but having tried out various solutions over the past week or two, (see http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=290823) I've finally got a set up that does the vast, vast majority of what I want, particularly connecting to my NAS both in Kodi and file manager. I'm actually really happy with Ubuntu as it is, and just started the thread in case there was a bug in Krypton.

We have a Fire TV for watching Kodi at home, so my laptop is mainly for travel on work and listening to music. If the only thing that's not working is the full screen version of Kodi, and even then only when I alt-tab in and out of it, then I'm happy to live with that. I really don't want to keep trying different set-ups ad nauseum. I do fear that the more you veer away from the standard set ups the more it becomes an all-consuming hobby that I know many people really enjoy, but I just don't have the time for right now. The quick view I had of Fluxbox and the reference to having to script to get it to do what I want has really put me off. I'm sure in due course I'll get more into the 'skins' side of it, but for now I think I'll be grateful to be rid of Windows and enjoy not being hustled to use OneDrive, Skype, MS Office or Bing every 5 seconds.

Cheers
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