Nvidia Shield - Fast enough?
#1
Hi.

A year ago i used a Minix Andorid Box with Kodi. My biggest Problem was, that it was damn slow. My Library contains round about 8000 Movies. Loading the list took about 20 seconds. Using Open/LibreElec it takes about 2-5 secounds.

Now i'm thinking about getting an Nvidia Shield. Is it fast enough to handle Andorid/Kodi with a big library of movies?
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#2
Yes.
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#3
I use a Nvidia Shield TV, that connects to a NAS that contains 3500+ HD movies, and 50,000+ TV Episodes, as well as 4,000+ Music Videos and a Huge Music Library. It is just as fast as my Intel I7 NUC with an SSD drive.

So yes, it should be fast enough for your needs.
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^Nice, how many TBs is your NAS if you don't mind me asking?
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(2017-01-19, 20:03)Powerhouse Wrote: I use a Nvidia Shield TV, that connects to a NAS that contains 3500+ HD movies, and 50,000+ TV Episodes, as well as 4,000+ Music Videos and a Huge Music Library. It is just as fast as my Intel I7 NUC with an SSD drive.

So yes, it should be fast enough for your needs.

Would have to be 50-100tb's.


eeek, bet that wasn't cheap.
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#6
Actually it's a 48TB FreeNAS server (but with 2 Disks used for redundancy), so overall I have 32TB of space. Now, you might think all I have takes up way more space (and it used to), but nearly all my Movies and TV Shows have been converted to x265 video compression (most people are still using x264). So the difference is huge, for example:

BluRay Movie xyz in x264 was 8-15GB in size.
That same Movie in x265 is 1.5-3.5GB in size.

Without compression, a normal BluRay Movie would be nearly 50GB in size. Now, with x265, a 4K Movie is nearly 50GB in size (don't know what a non-compressed 4K Movie size is, but I'm sure I don't have that kind of space available). Smile


Oh, and the cost was actually not that bad.
Motherboard $250
32GB ECC Memory $200
8bay removable case $90
6TB drives (x8) $1600
FreeNAS 9.x $Free

Having all of your data protected (and backed up on a separate offsite server), PRICELESS.
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(2017-01-19, 23:33)Powerhouse Wrote: Actually it's a 48TB FreeNAS server (but with 2 Disks used for redundancy), so overall I have 32TB of space. Now, you might think all I have takes up way more space (and it used to), but nearly all my Movies and TV Shows have been converted to x265 video compression (most people are still using x264). So the difference is huge, for example:

BluRay Movie xyz in x264 was 8-15GB in size.
That same Movie in x265 is 1.5-3.5GB in size.

Without compression, a normal BluRay Movie would be nearly 50GB in size. Now, with x265, a 4K Movie is nearly 50GB in size (don't know what a non-compressed 4K Movie size is, but I'm sure I don't have that kind of space available). Smile


Oh, and the cost was actually not that bad.
Motherboard $250
32GB ECC Memory $200
8bay removable case $90
6TB drives (x8) $1600
FreeNAS 9.x $Free

Having all of your data protected (and backed up on a separate offsite server), PRICELESS.

What offsite backup do you use Smile ?
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#8
My old windows 7 server, setup at a friends house. Quad Core, 16GB Ram, had 10 Hard drives (most were 4TB, but a few 6TB too).
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(2017-01-20, 07:37)Powerhouse Wrote: My old windows 7 server, setup at a friends house. Quad Core, 16GB Ram, had 10 Hard drives (most were 4TB, but a few 6TB too).

Ahh OK thanks, I thought that youbwere using some cloud provider Smile
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(2017-01-19, 23:33)Powerhouse Wrote: That same Movie in x265 is 1.5-3.5GB in size.


yuk yuk yuk.

Those will look awful. Heck the HD audio track alone should be 1.5gb.
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(2017-01-20, 16:27)honcho Wrote:
(2017-01-19, 23:33)Powerhouse Wrote: That same Movie in x265 is 1.5-3.5GB in size.


yuk yuk yuk.

Those will look awful. Heck the HD audio track alone should be 1.5gb.

The problem with low X265 encodes is the blocking in dark scenes, you are right, yuk.
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#12
Who said anything about low x265 encodes? Those are generally in the 500MB-750MB size (and I don't make those). I use Multi-pass, 10bit, variable bit rate levels (2500-5000) depending upon the film, and cannot tell the difference between the actual BluRay disc and one of my x265 encodes (up close, looking at a 65" TV).

Your mileage may very of course, then again, this is the same argument people who are audiophiles use, about their speakers and receiver. But my 7.1 setup sounds great to me, and since I don't have an audiophile friend, who I can compare my setup against, the point it mute.
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(2017-01-20, 17:40)DaMacFunkin Wrote:
(2017-01-20, 16:27)honcho Wrote:
(2017-01-19, 23:33)Powerhouse Wrote: That same Movie in x265 is 1.5-3.5GB in size.


yuk yuk yuk.

Those will look awful. Heck the HD audio track alone should be 1.5gb.

The problem with low X265 encodes is the blocking in dark scenes, you are right, yuk.

Yes, and by the time you crank the bitrate to get rid of them, you are at the same size as your x264 lol.
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(2017-01-20, 19:00)Powerhouse Wrote: Who said anything about low x265 encodes? Those are generally in the 500MB-750MB size (and I don't make those). I use Multi-pass, 10bit, variable bit rate levels (2500-5000) depending upon the film, and cannot tell the difference between the actual BluRay disc and one of my x265 encodes (up close, looking at a 65" TV).

Your mileage may very of course, then again, this is the same argument people who are audiophiles use, about their speakers and receiver. But my 7.1 setup sounds great to me, and since I don't have an audiophile friend, who I can compare my setup against, the point it mute.


But your 7.1 isn't going to work on a 2500mb bluray. The 7.1 audio track alone is 1500mb. That's 1.5mbit for a 1080p encode of a normal movie, that will look atrocious.
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#15
You Assume much, without actually asking any.

Most of my movies are only 5.1, and only in the last few years have I added 7.1 audio movies. So yes, you are correct, untouched audio tracks are large (Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit come to mind). But on those encodes, they are much larger than normal (5GB to 7GB), but those are exceptions, and not the norm in my library.
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