[cejstrup]

I forgot, the CPU load is around 70% playing the bird sample..

[BLKMGK]

I did and there was some dropped frames. Around 200 or so

I've just replaced the CPU due to heat issues and dropped in a E7200 instead. It had the same amount of dropped frames.

Then I decided to try and overclock it to see if the drops would disappear. And they did

It can run 3.16GHz stable without even increasing the voltage and it's still a lot cooler than the E6600. This CPU rocks


Here's my setup for playing back the bird sample without frame drops:

CPU: Intel E7200 overclocked to 3.16GHz
GFX: GeForce 7100 GS
Mobo: MSI G965 Neo2

Excellent! I'd hoped that the lower CPU could clock high enough for this, thanks for testing! I've just heard that the E8400 is about to be dropped as a higher speed CPU is being dropped to it's price. I think the new one clocks at 3.15Ghz, not sure what the next lowest below that will be when that occurs. Hope a lower speed one fast enough for our use sticks around at a good price! Vry, cool - maybe time to upgrade MY CPU

[majorheadache]

I don't know if anyone will find this useful but I swear I've read this thread backwards and forwards trying to glean what I could from it. Eventually I decided to make a table of what's working and what's not.

This is assuming you want something NOW, given currently available hardware and currently available code. Also it assumes you want something that plays the killa sample with ~0 dropped frames.

These are the configurations that passed the test and who posted the result:

MFR Proc Speed GFX Mobo According to
Intel E7200 OC 3.16GHz GeForce 7100 GS MSI G965 Neo2 cejstrup
Intel E8400 3GHz nVidia 9600GT GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L jkrellner
Intel E8400 3GHz Onboard GeForce 7100 ABIT I-N73HD Razor_109 http://forum.xbmc.org/showpost.php?p=201...stcount=88
Intel C2D E6750 OC ~3GHz MSI 8500GT ASUS P5E VM-HDMI BLKMGK

I'm sorry I can't make this table look better

And these are configurations that don't play the killa sample well, even though many of the authors point out that the systems are quite good in all other respects.

Intel Celeron 430 Conroe 1.8 GHz Onboard GeForce 7100 ECS GF7100PVT-M IrishTR
Intel E8200 2.66GHz Onboard GeForce 7100 ABIT I-N73HD ShortySco Doesn't play 1080P at all
Intel E8400 3GHz Onboard GeForce 7100 ABIT I-N73HD Razor_109 http://forum.xbmc.org/showpost.php?p=194...stcount=33
Intel E4700 3GHz Onboard GeForce 7150 EVGA 7150-630i succo
Intel E8400 3GHz Onboard Intel 3100 Gigabyte GA-G33M-S2H Amdmannen Reports no hiccups, but no report of checking actual dropped frames
Intel E7200 2.53GHz GeForce 7100 GS MSI G965 Neo2 cejstrup
AMD x2 5600 OC 3.2GHz nVidia 8400 GS shuttle xpc SN68SG2 harryzimm

I think it's worth noting that Razor_109 is on both lists with a link in the comments. I'm not sure what happened but in June he said it doesn't play it but in July he says it does. Maybe a code update helped, or maybe I'm confused. According to what I'm seeing, his system is sort of right on the edge of where you don't drop frames, so it's hard to know. Maybe he will comment.

There were some AMD proponents, but none I could really see a specific configuration that was tested and known to not drop frames of the KS

The system I'd like to see tested now is something with an E7200 and an nVidia 8500 or 8600 GT. Would the faster video card compensate for the lost cpu cycles?

[icekiller]

No a faster video card would't, the main point is that it has Opengl 2 and some other stuff (on the wiki) so it can be a 9800 or a 8800 as long as minimum specs are ok.

The reason for this,is because there isn't any (yet?) hardware acceleration

One quick note, the intel c2d e6750 OC ~3GHZ MSI 8500GT Asus P5e VM-hdmi BLKMGK
doesn't that one have an onboard hdmi port ? if so doesn't that play the killa sample? just asking for main info

[amdmannen]

what a work m8.
Well i did check the dropped frames then but didnt tell, re-ran killa_sample right now and took some screenies.
Note that every time you take a screenshoot 10 frames is added to the dropped frames count.
So at first playing the clip there is 1 drooped, then 11 on so on.
Heres the pics:

[cejstrup]

Great list. Gives us a good overview.

The pattern seems to be:

* CPU has to be Intel and at least 3 GHz. Probably also a Core 2 Duo type, I don't think the old P4s would be powerful enough even at 3+ GHz.
* If video is onboard it won't work. Even if the CPU is fast enough.

[olympia]

* If video is onboard it won't work. Even if the CPU is fast enough.

Those setups, with geforce 7100 GS are onboard solutions...

[amdmannen]

Onboard video is just fine, look at my setup, Intel 3100 budget graphic chip, plays fine.
But my concern is if OpenGL 2.0 would change anything in gui, pictures etc. too the better because Intel 3100 is a openGL 1.5 shitty

[cejstrup]

Those setups, with geforce 7100 GS are onboard solutions...

No it's not an onboard video card . It's my setup,so I should know

[cejstrup]

But it seems like there's another setup with an onboard 7100 that works..Hmm..

[olympia]

No it's not an onboard video card . It's my setup,so I should know

Yes, sorry, wanted to mention geforce 7100, without GS.

[BLKMGK]

No a faster video card would't, the main point is that it has Opengl 2 and some other stuff (on the wiki) so it can be a 9800 or a 8800 as long as minimum specs are ok.

The reason for this,is because there isn't any (yet?) hardware acceleration

One quick note, the intel c2d e6750 OC ~3GHZ MSI 8500GT Asus P5e VM-hdmi BLKMGK
doesn't that one have an onboard hdmi port ? if so doesn't that play the killa sample? just asking for main info

I have an added on MSI 8500 in mine. I had TRIED to get the Intel working but the drivers loaded by Ubuntu didn't do it and trying to figure out how to compile the Intel drivers was a task I wasn't willing to sweat to do when I HAD the NVIDIA card sitting. I think one other person has my board and might have had better success but am unsure. So, jury still ouot on this Intel video chipset I *think*. Looking at the Wikipedia this chipset not looking so hot for video IMO.

Doing it again I'd use a Shuttle XPC, skip the expensive case, and have a smaller nicer system overall with this NVIDIA card in the XPC. Oh and I'd want a 45nm CPU too!

[icekiller]

sorry but intel? It has a n onboard nvidia 7100 ...

because i have the same one...
c2d e6750, P5N-EM hdmi...

its has a nvidia 7100 onboard..

[Aenima99x]

sorry but intel? It has a n onboard nvidia 7100 ...

because i have the same one...
c2d e6750, pe5e vm hdmi...

its has a nvidia 7100 onboard..

Wrong....I have a c2d 6750 and the Asus P5E-VM-HDMI and it has onboard Intel graphics. I fought with the onboard graphics for a while before giving up and going with a Radeon HD 3450......fought with that too for a little while, but it works perfect now using Envy.

[Razor_109]

I don't know if anyone will find this useful but I swear I've read this thread backwards and forwards trying to glean what I could from it. Eventually I decided to make a table of what's working and what's not.

This is assuming you want something NOW, given currently available hardware and currently available code. Also it assumes you want something that plays the killa sample with ~0 dropped frames.

These are the configurations that passed the test and who posted the result:

MFR Proc Speed GFX Mobo According to
Intel E7200 OC 3.16GHz GeForce 7100 GS MSI G965 Neo2 cejstrup
Intel E8400 3GHz nVidia 9600GT GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L jkrellner
Intel E8400 3GHz Onboard GeForce 7100 ABIT I-N73HD Razor_109 http://forum.xbmc.org/showpost.php?p=201...stcount=88
Intel C2D E6750 OC ~3GHz MSI 8500GT ASUS P5E VM-HDMI BLKMGK

I'm sorry I can't make this table look better

And these are configurations that don't play the killa sample well, even though many of the authors point out that the systems are quite good in all other respects.

Intel Celeron 430 Conroe 1.8 GHz Onboard GeForce 7100 ECS GF7100PVT-M IrishTR
Intel E8200 2.66GHz Onboard GeForce 7100 ABIT I-N73HD ShortySco Doesn't play 1080P at all
Intel E8400 3GHz Onboard GeForce 7100 ABIT I-N73HD Razor_109 http://forum.xbmc.org/showpost.php?p=194...stcount=33
Intel E4700 3GHz Onboard GeForce 7150 EVGA 7150-630i succo
Intel E8400 3GHz Onboard Intel 3100 Gigabyte GA-G33M-S2H Amdmannen Reports no hiccups, but no report of checking actual dropped frames
Intel E7200 2.53GHz GeForce 7100 GS MSI G965 Neo2 cejstrup
AMD x2 5600 OC 3.2GHz nVidia 8400 GS shuttle xpc SN68SG2 harryzimm

I think it's worth noting that Razor_109 is on both lists with a link in the comments. I'm not sure what happened but in June he said it doesn't play it but in July he says it does. Maybe a code update helped, or maybe I'm confused. According to what I'm seeing, his system is sort of right on the edge of where you don't drop frames, so it's hard to know. Maybe he will comment.

There were some AMD proponents, but none I could really see a specific configuration that was tested and known to not drop frames of the KS

The system I'd like to see tested now is something with an E7200 and an nVidia 8500 or 8600 GT. Would the faster video card compensate for the lost cpu cycles?

Can you remove me from that list, i found my problem (i had post-processing enabled) now its running perfectly and my config runs all 1080p x264 mkv rips flawlessly!

Thanks
Intel E8400 3GHz Onboard GeForce 7100 ABIT I-N73HD Razor_109 http://forum.xbmc.org/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=33