Support for WTV files? Microsoft Windows Media Center recording format
#1
Question 
Does anyone know if there are plans to support the new WTV file format? This is format comes with the Vista MCE "TV PacK" (Fuji)

Thanks
#2
Never heard about it, are you sure is not a other existing format that some company just can renamed the extension of (they do that sometime)? You test it XBMC by creating an advancedsettings.xml file adding the file extension to it, see:
http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=Advancedsettings.xml
http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=Advancedsett...ensions.3E

If that does not work then you will have to wait until FFmpeg supports it, see:
http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=Codec_and_Format_requests
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#3
WTV is the new Microsoft Recording format in Windows Media Center.

Support for this format would be a good idea, especially for people trying to transition from Windows Media Center to a Linux XBMC setup. ie. Me at the moment.
#4
Please try the tip above and let us know if it works or not.

Nod
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#5
Gave it a try, but no luck. I saw the files listed now but they would not play.

Here is a link the describes the new TV Pack. http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/281532.aspx

Thanks for your help.
#6
A pastebinned debug log of the failed play attempt would be helpful. More so than that link anyway.

Anybody wanna put money on them being DRMed? Wink
#7
althekiller Wrote:A pastebinned debug log of the failed play attempt would be helpful. More so than that link anyway.
Enable debug logging in System Settings. The log (xbmc.log) can be found in the same place as the XBMC executable OR "/var/temp for Linux", OR "~/Library/Logs/" on the Mac, OR "C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Application Data\XBMC\" under Windows. Please do not paste logs to the XBMC forums, instead upload it to one of the many pasting sites such as pastebin.ca instead and link to it.

althekiller Wrote:Anybody wanna put money on them being DRMed? Wink
Yeah maybe, maybe not, you are probably right as DVR-MS files had built-in support for DRM which was added to the recording if the broadcast stream is marked as copy protected, (in such cases the recording can only be played back on the device it is recorded on, though an exception to this is that hardware based Microsoft Certified Windows Media Center Extenders which can play back DRM-enabled files provided they have been upgraded to the latest firmware).

But even if these specific files are not protected by DRM that still will probably not play in XBMC as I again do not think that FFmpeg support the WTV container format yet, see http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=Codec_and_Format_requests

Possible workaround would be to remux (demux and remux) the WTV files into a other container format (a format which FFmpeg does support) using software converter tools:
http://mcebuddy.com
http://babgvant.com/files/folders/dvrmst...fault.aspx
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#8
updates on support for .wtv?
#9
Only thing we do know is that WTV is not supported by FFmpeg yet (so thus not supported by XBMC), see:
http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=Codec_and_Format_requests

No one have even confirmed if the file format use DRM or not. Do not expect someone else to do it for you.

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#10
Anything new on the horizon? Sucks not being able to stream our recorded shows to our TV?

Played around with Media Portal but im not overly fond of it. Well I suppose it would be ok if I could figure out how to get a TV guide to work. =)
#11
I just upgraded my desktop to windows 7 64-bit RC and the built in media center seems to record files in a format called wtv instead of mpeg-2.

I usually stream these to my Ubuntu boxes, but as of yet I can't get any program (xbmc, vlc, mplayer) to play them. Any ideas?
#12
bump ^^

Is this going to be a supported format in the future?
#13
Althekiller requested a debug log some time ago which no one has provided yet. As well is there support in ffmpeg for this format yet? Otherwise there is no need to further reply to this thread.

Gamester17 already linked everyone to here: http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=Codec_and_Format_requests

It has lots of information but in short it says, if it's not supported by ffmpeg then it's not supported by XBMC.
#14
I was looking into this last night, currently the .wtv files aren't listed in XBMC, but I'm going to try the changes suggested earlier in this thread to make them visible, and then see where I go from there. I'll supply a debug log.

I have found lots of guides on converting .wtv to .dvrms, and I know XBMC supports .dvrms, so anyone wanting an immediate solution could look into automating a conversion and streaming that.

It also suggests that there's nothing terribly DRM-shaped affecting the .wtv files, and otherwise I'd doubt the conversion would work.
#15
Here's a link to the log file when trying to play a .wtv file:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/250934/xbmc.log

In Windows 7, you can actually right click on a .wtv file and select "convert to .dvrms" which will produce a playable file.

It looks like we'll either have to wait for ffmpeg to support .wtv, or automate a conversion to produce video that's watchable with XBMC.

This (http://www.indesolutions.com/WtvWatcher/) might be of interest.

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