[soder]

soder,

I followed your advice and swapped out the envyNG drivers for the ATI proprietary 8.9

Worked like a charm. Ironically I had used the same instructions to install the 8.10 and they of course were buggered.

Much easier to install now that I am using UltraVNC on my XP desktop to manipulate my HTPC box.

I am still gonna holdoff on a 8.10 upgrade for a bit.

Kryspy

Glad to help. Im use to that Im the one who needs all the help.
Maybe you can use ssh and putty instead of UltraVNC?

ubuntu 8.04 workes good for xbmc, so there is accually no reason for 8.10 on a htpc. =)

/Söder

[soder]

hy

now i have upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 too, installed the ati fglrx driver from ubuntu and all running fine ..... here is my xorg.conf :

Code:

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Default Layout"
    Screen         "Default Screen" 0 0
    Option        "AIGLX" "true"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    # path to defoma fonts
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
    FontPath     "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection


Section "Module"
    Load  "i2c"
    Load  "bitmap"
    Load  "ddc"
    Load  "dri"
    Load  "extmod"
    Load  "freetype"
    Load  "glx"
    Load  "int10"
    Load  "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
    Driver      "kbd"
    Option        "XkbRules" "xorg"
    Option        "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option        "XkbLayout" "de"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option        "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "Configured Monitor"
    Option      "VideoOverlay" "on"
    Option      "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Configured Video Device"
    Driver      "fglrx"
    Option        "EnableMonitor" "crt1,lvds,tv,tmds1,crt2,tmds2,cv,tmds2i"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Default Screen"
    Device     "Configured Video Device"
    Monitor    "Configured Monitor"
    DefaultDepth     24
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     24
        # here edit resolution u want to display
               Virtual   1280 720
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
    Mode         0666
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
    Option        "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

i hope this will help you ...

regards

bex

I will try your xorg.conf.

I'm pretty new with Ubuntu and linux, soo I have to ask.
This xorg.conf, is it like "settings" for the graphical part in linux?

My xorg.conf is pretty "short", not soo much in it. What does all you have in your file meen?

Shall it be different for a screen using dvi instead of vga?

At the moment I have a monitor on the VGA and my plasma on dvi, because I will try to get rid of the underscan with DVI, and later ONLY use the dvi. Will I have to edit my xorg.conf different because of that?

/Söder

[soder]

hy Kryspy

im not using a crt monitor, i use a panasonic 37" flat tv and it runs good, just for high resolution is my htpc not good enough ( amd athlon 2200+ and ati radeon 9800 pro ) thats why im running a resolution of 1280x720

xbmc runs good, no probs, only i must start xbmc without pulseaudio on ubuntu 8.10 but else all the same as under ubuntu 8.04

Note : if you want edit your xorg.conf like mine, check first that fglrx is running correctly with : "fglrxinfo" in console, if the output shows your aticard correctly u can do to edit.

regards

bex

So 1280x720 is not a "high" resultion?

I've check with fglrxinfo, and everything is allright. Have a totaly reinstalled Ubuntu. =)

Please read my other post about my xorg.conf, and please help my understand its functions.


And this pulseaudio, what is it, and how do I disable it?

/Söder

[Kryspy]

Interestingly enough I eliminated tearing using the ATI 8.9 proprietary drivers and setting the slider in Catalyst control centre all the way to the right for quality and then setting XBMC to use driver settings in system/screen

Kryspy

[soder]

Interestingly enough I eliminated tearing using the ATI 8.9 proprietary drivers and setting the slider in Catalyst control centre all the way to the right for quality and then setting XBMC to use driver settings in system/screen

Kryspy

Yes, it was the same for me. I never had problem with tearing using the slider for quality. Worked for 8.7, 8.8 and 8.9.

/Söder

[soder]

So 1280x720 is not a "high" resultion?

I've check with fglrxinfo, and everything is allright. Have a totaly reinstalled Ubuntu. =)

Please read my other post about my xorg.conf, and please help my understand its functions.


And this pulseaudio, what is it, and how do I disable it?

/Söder

I now only have a DVI-HDMI cable to my panasonic plasma.
I've change my xorg.conf to yours and restarted Ubuntu.

Still got my underscan.

When starting xbmc, in 4:3 it works. Changing to 1280 x 720 like my desktop resulution, I get the bad screen I saw in 8.04 with Catalyst 8.10. Changing to Auto I get a big screen but in windowed mode.

Do I have to change this pulseaudio?

/Söder

[bexbier]

hy Kryspy

yes the xorg.conf is the configfile for the graphic server, so your xorg.conf is short because its the standard configuration that the server can handle your your hardware.

But if you want 3D and something else you need to tell this the server, how to do this, and with which hardware.

for example, you will play 3d games so you need the modul "dri" to connect directly to you graphiccard to use opengl. or you need this for compiz.

sorry but my english is not good enough to explain you the funktions. i hope u understand that u configure the graphic server with the xorg.conf.

its like on windows, without installing driver u can not use all funktion of ur graphiccard and games will not running, but u have a desktop.

so what u should do is to set the modul section on your xorg.conf, with the "Dri" section! from end of my xorg.conf

if u want run another resolution you should set the subsection "Display" in the "Screen" section

And if you had problems with videos you should

Code:

Option      "VideoOverlay" "on"
    Option      "OpenGLOverlay" "off"

in your "monitor" section

try it, for me it works great and all is running correctly no underscan or something.

regards

bex

P.S.: @soder ..... yes i know that it is a high resolution too, but i want running 1080p next week i have new hardware i hope it runs with that than

[bexbier]

@soder

my htpc is connected on my panasonic LCD with dvi-hdmi too, but i have no underscan, overscan is disabled on tv. Only on my windows pc with ati x1900 is that underscan too.

but take a look at catalyst control center at display manager -> digital monitor, there is an option vor scale the screen.

[soder]

@soder

my htpc is connected on my panasonic LCD with dvi-hdmi too, but i have no underscan, overscan is disabled on tv. Only on my windows pc with ati x1900 is that underscan too.

but take a look at catalyst control center at display manager -> digital monitor, there is an option vor scale the screen.

Yes, but the option in the the control setting doesnt solve my underscan problem.

=(

/Söder

[soder]

hy Kryspy

yes the xorg.conf is the configfile for the graphic server, so your xorg.conf is short because its the standard configuration that the server can handle your your hardware.

But if you want 3D and something else you need to tell this the server, how to do this, and with which hardware.

for example, you will play 3d games so you need the modul "dri" to connect directly to you graphiccard to use opengl. or you need this for compiz.

sorry but my english is not good enough to explain you the funktions. i hope u understand that u configure the graphic server with the xorg.conf.

its like on windows, without installing driver u can not use all funktion of ur graphiccard and games will not running, but u have a desktop.

so what u should do is to set the modul section on your xorg.conf, with the "Dri" section! from end of my xorg.conf

if u want run another resolution you should set the subsection "Display" in the "Screen" section

And if you had problems with videos you should

Code:

Option      "VideoOverlay" "on"
    Option      "OpenGLOverlay" "off"

in your "monitor" section

try it, for me it works great and all is running correctly no underscan or something.

regards

bex

P.S.: @soder ..... yes i know that it is a high resolution too, but i want running 1080p next week i have new hardware i hope it runs with that than

But, shall I copy your xorg.conf totaly, or just edit my own with some good stuff?

Can you then please help edit my own to a great one?
Then I guess I have to run "aticonfig --initial" and then try one of this solution.
1. This scruipt
#!/bin/sh
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,positionX:0
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,positionY:0
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,sizeX:1280
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,sizeY:720

2. or this line
sudo aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,0
I've already tried them, then that time it didnt worked. Maybe because I had your complete xorg.conf?

EDIT: Maybe I have to make clear what my 2 problems are, soo we all dont get confused.
Problem 1. I have underscan on my Panasonic Plasma using DVI-HDMI. In both 1280x720 and 1920x1080.

Problem 2. My XBMC display that strange screen with Ubuntu 8.10 ATI Beta Catalyst 8.11 (8.543).

/Söder

[bexbier]

ok .... try overscan on your tv

or set in xorg.conf in device section
"Option "BusType" "PCIE" "
"Option "TVOverscan" "true" " -> look here http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/...figuration


or make a script like:

"sudo gedit /usr/bin/ati-prepare"

than set in it :

#!/bin/bash
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,positionX:0
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,positionY:0
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,sizeX:1920
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,sizeY:1080

and save

than "sudo chmod 755 /usr/bin/ati-prepare"

than "sudo sh /usr/bin/ati-prepare"

if that not help

try to set the virtual resolution to "virtual 2016 1134" that 5% bigger than 1920x1080

[soder]

ok .... try overscan on your tv

or set in xorg.conf in device section
"Option "BusType" "PCIE" "
"Option "TVOverscan" "true" " -> look here http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/...figuration


or make a script like:

"sudo gedit /usr/bin/ati-prepare"

than set in it :

#!/bin/bash
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,positionX:0
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,positionY:0
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,sizeX:1920
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,sizeY:1080

and save

than "sudo chmod 755 /usr/bin/ati-prepare"

than "sudo sh /usr/bin/ati-prepare"

if that not help

try to set the virtual resolution to "virtual 2016 1134" that 5% bigger than 1920x1080

But I dont want to choose overscan on my TV. And I have tried, but was not any good solution.
I have tested with a script to:

root@htpc-desktop:/home/htpc# nano -w underscan.sh

#!/bin/sh
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,positionX:0
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,positionY:0
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,sizeX:1280
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,sizeY:720

root@htpc-desktop:/home/htpc# chmod 770 underscan.sh
root@htpc-desktop:/home/htpc# ./underscan.sh
root@htpc-desktop:/home/htpc#

Try to Set positionX adjust of monitor tmds2i value : 0 failed.
It may not supported by monitor or the value beyond the range.
Try to Set positionY adjust of monitor tmds2i value : 0 failed.
It may not supported by monitor or the value beyond the range.
Try to Set sizeX adjust of monitor tmds2i value : 1280 failed.
It may not supported by monitor or the value beyond the range.
Try to Set sizeY adjust of monitor tmds2i value : 720 failed.
It may not supported by monitor or the value beyond the range.

/Söder

[soder]

But I dont want to choose overscan on my TV. And I have tried, but was not any good solution.
I have tested with a script to:

root@htpc-desktop:/home/htpc# nano -w underscan.sh

#!/bin/sh
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,positionX:0
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,positionY:0
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,sizeX:1280
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,sizeY:720

root@htpc-desktop:/home/htpc# chmod 770 underscan.sh
root@htpc-desktop:/home/htpc# ./underscan.sh
root@htpc-desktop:/home/htpc#

Try to Set positionX adjust of monitor tmds2i value : 0 failed.
It may not supported by monitor or the value beyond the range.
Try to Set positionY adjust of monitor tmds2i value : 0 failed.
It may not supported by monitor or the value beyond the range.
Try to Set sizeX adjust of monitor tmds2i value : 1280 failed.
It may not supported by monitor or the value beyond the range.
Try to Set sizeY adjust of monitor tmds2i value : 720 failed.
It may not supported by monitor or the value beyond the range.

/Söder

Now I tried with this xorg.conf

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "aticonfig Layout"
Screen 0 "Default Screen" 0 0
Option "AIGLX" "true"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# path to defoma fonts
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "int10"
Load "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "de"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Configured Monitor"
Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
Driver "fglrx"
Option "EnableMonitor" "crt1,lvds,tv,tmds1,crt2,tmds2,cv,tmds2i"
Option "BusType" "PCIE"
BusID "PCI:1:5:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "Configured Video Device"
Monitor "Configured Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"

# here edit resolution u want to display
Viewport 0 0
Virtual 1280 720
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection



I got 1280x720 in Ubuntu, BUT now, I still got underscan, but I dont have the whole desktop fitting in that "picture". For exampel, I cant see my menu , and cant so all to the right, my power buttom

Still the same "underscan frame", but different desktop in it.
http://home.bip.net/soder15/scan.JPG

Also, trying xbmc it worked in 4:3, but changing it to 1280x720 gets me the strange screen.

EDIT:
With this xorg.conf, I tried "sudo aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,0"

and restarted Ubuntu, and I still got underscan, but now a normal screen, with all menues and buttoms. Strange?

/Söder

[bexbier]

morning soder

try this :

Code:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
Driver "fglrx"
Option "EnableMonitor" "crt1,lvds,tv,tmds1,crt2,tmds2,cv,tmds2i"
Option "BusType" "PCIE"
[b]Option "TVOverscan" "true"
Option     "NoTV"         "no"[/b]
BusID "PCI:1:5:0"
EndSection

maybe it helps, and if u edit the xorg.conf u must reboot or press "STRG+ALT+BACKSHIFT"

[soder]

morning soder

try this :

Code:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
Driver "fglrx"
Option "EnableMonitor" "crt1,lvds,tv,tmds1,crt2,tmds2,cv,tmds2i"
Option "BusType" "PCIE"
[b]Option "TVOverscan" "true"
Option     "NoTV"         "no"[/b]
BusID "PCI:1:5:0"
EndSection

maybe it helps, and if u edit the xorg.conf u must reboot or press "STRG+ALT+BACKSHIFT"

Still underscan. =(
I have restarted everytime.

Where are tha option from
"sudo aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,0"

and the script

#!/bin/sh
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,positionX:0
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,positionY:0
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,sizeX:1280
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,sizeY:720

saved?
Cant find it in xorg.conf?

Someone told me something about pulseaudio, and compiz, to make xbmc work in Ubuntu 8.10. What is that?


/Söder