[LIVE] Dharma 3 still nasty static on Toslink.
#76
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@DocDyna: I agree w/ Uomiarz, at least you did not give up. I would test a DVD and a 48 kHz wav if I were you, if yoiu haven't already. If I'm not mistaken you use a Creative X-Fi soundcard? That one (like most Creative soundcards) does not support 44.1 kHz passtru. So yhat's one thing you can unfortunately forget about. But on the positive side: in almost all cases upsampling to 48 kHz is not that big a deal: your Amp will not complain or output static. Only DTS-CD's (read: DTS wavs @44 kHz) need bit perfect 44 kHz passtru.

Anyway, good luck in using multi channel output. And good luck in using Windows and Xbmc. And keep on booting into Ubuntu every once in a while! There are a lot of excellent Linux help forums on the 'net (I'm active in the 'Buntu one every once in a while). Learned everything I know from them. So there's no probs in getting answers to questions. And... you're a seasoned Linux user now because you've compiled software from source code. And multimedia software no less! It'd be a real waste for the community to lose such a user! Smile

Bye and thanks for the nice discussions. Nod

P.S. About that X-Fi: I read here that it's supported in Alsa 1.0.21 and up. Only Ubuntu 10.04 has an alsa version higher than 1.0.21. See Distrowatch.
P.S.2 Then, if you installed Ubuntu 9.10 to hdd your audio card won't work... And Xbmc Live is also based on Ubuntu 9.10. Sorry that it took me so long to realise this... Blush
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#77
DoctorDyna Wrote:Well guys, thanks for all the help, but after installing a full version of Ubuntu yesterday, doing all the updates, getting the most current source code from the SVN, spending an hour figuring out and installing dependencies, compiling xbmc and running it just to find out that it still has the same issue while mplayer does not, I've decided to stick with the Windows version of xbmc for now.

Perhaps future live cd versions will give me the lightweight media center solution I'm looking for, but for now, with my hardware (a lot more uncommon that you'd think, evidently) it's just not there yet.

So, you will not be providing a debug log file that would allow us to possibly fix it, then?
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#78
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Anssi Wrote:So, you will not be providing a debug log file that would allow us to possibly fix it, then?

I posted a debug log about 3 days ago. You replied and let me know that you had committed some code changes in Subversion, but unfortunately, I'm after a fast booting, low resource usage device and until those changes become part of a live cd install, I'm forced to install a full, fat version of Ubuntu, for which there is no tangible benefit to choose it over my working windows 7 install.Confused

I was willing to give it a shot out of boredom, however I really don't want to do exhaustive troubleshooting for a operating system I'm going to erase the moment a new version of the live install is released.No

I appreciate the help and I'm thrilled that my issue culminated in a code change that will make it into a live-cd release at some point.Cool
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#79
DoctorDyna Wrote:I posted a debug log about 3 days ago. You replied and let me know that you had committed some code changes in Subversion, but unfortunately, I'm after a fast booting, low resource usage device and until those changes become part of a live cd install, I'm forced to install a full, fat version of Ubuntu, for which there is no tangible benefit to choose it over my working windows 7 install.Confused
I was under the impression that you had tried the latest SVN revision and the issue was still there (I can't make it from your message if that is the case or not). If that is so, we'd need a new debug log from that revision to fix the second issue you are having (the first debug log only contains the first issue which should now be fixed).

If you haven't tried the latest SVN revision after all, then I simply misunderstood you, and I hope you try Beta4 (which is coming very soon) to see if the issue is fixed there Smile.
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#80
Anssi Wrote:I was under the impression that you had tried the latest SVN revision and the issue was still there (I can't make it from your message if that is the case or not). If that is so, we'd need a new debug log from that revision to fix the second issue you are having (the first debug log only contains the first issue which should now be fixed).

If you haven't tried the latest SVN revision after all, then I simply misunderstood you, and I hope you try Beta4 (which is coming very soon) to see if the issue is fixed there Smile.

Smile

I did try the SVN revision, but my sound card support seemed so shaky with Ubuntu, one reboot it worked, one it didn't, etc. It wasn't really a reliable testing platform that I could give you a report on your changes without being worried that some other issue (beyond the scope of what we're working on) was to blame, and I'd probably never stick with that install anyway.

Hopefully beta 4 is out soon!
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#81
well it is not the LIVE Version but the same problem. Hope it will help you guys:

Code:
02:02:01 T:140672148490272 M:3707330560  NOTICE: -----------------------------------------------------------------------
02:02:01 T:140672148490272 M:3707211776  NOTICE: Starting XBMC, Platform: Linux (Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS, 2.6.32-25-generic x86_64). Built on Oct 29 2010 (SVN:35068)
02:02:01 T:140672148490272 M:3707211776  NOTICE: special://xbmc/ is mapped to: /usr/share/xbmc
02:02:01 T:140672148490272 M:3707211776  NOTICE: special://xbmcbin/ is mapped to: /usr/lib/xbmc
02:02:01 T:140672148490272 M:3707211776  NOTICE: special://masterprofile/ is mapped to: /home/moehre/.xbmc/userdata
02:02:01 T:140672148490272 M:3707211776  NOTICE: special://home/ is mapped to: /home/moehre/.xbmc
02:02:01 T:140672148490272 M:3707211776  NOTICE: special://temp/ is mapped to: /home/moehre/.xbmc/temp
02:02:01 T:140672148490272 M:3707092992  NOTICE: The executable running is: /usr/lib/xbmc/xbmc.bin
02:02:01 T:140672148490272 M:3707092992  NOTICE: Log File is located: /home/moehre/.xbmc/temp/xbmc.log
02:02:01 T:140672148490272 M:3707092992  NOTICE: -----------------------------------------------------------------------
02:02:01 T:140672148490272 M:3707338752  NOTICE: Setup SDL

[...]

02:02:17 T:140672148490272 M:3645091840   DEBUG: Activating window ID: 12005
02:02:17 T:140672148490272 M:3645091840   DEBUG: Checking if window ID 12005 is locked.
02:02:17 T:140672148490272 M:3645091840   DEBUG: ------ Window Deinit (MyVideo.xml) ------
02:02:17 T:140672148490272 M:3645091840   DEBUG: ------ Window Init (VideoFullScreen.xml) ------
02:02:17 T:140672148490272 M:3645091840    INFO: Loading skin file: VideoFullScreen.xml
02:02:17 T:140672148490272 M:3645091840   DEBUG: Load VideoFullScreen.xml: 1.63ms
02:02:17 T:140672148490272 M:3645091840   DEBUG: Alloc resources: 1.82ms (1.82 ms skin load)
02:02:17 T:140671801657104 M:3644792832   ERROR: Initialize - failed to open custom device iec958:CARD=S51,AES0=0x6,AES1=0x82,AES2=0x0,AES3=0x2 (error:Device or resource busy), retry with default iec958:CARD=S51
02:02:17 T:140671801657104 M:3644157952   ERROR: Initialize - pcm_open_lconf, alsa error: -16 - Device or resource busy
02:02:17 T:140671801657104 M:3644030976   DEBUG: SetActiveDevice - SetActiveDevice from 2 to 1
02:02:17 T:140671801657104 M:3643904000   DEBUG: RemoveActiveDevice - Removing device 2
02:02:17 T:140671801657104 M:3643777024   DEBUG: CGUIAudioManager::Initialize
02:02:17 T:140671801657104 M:3643420672   ERROR: Creating a Null Audio Renderer, Check your audio settings as this should not happen
02:02:17 T:140671801657104 M:3643420672   DEBUG: RemoveActiveDevice - Removing device 1
02:02:17 T:140671801657104 M:3643420672   DEBUG: CGUIAudioManager::DeInitialize
02:02:17 T:140671801657104 M:3643420672   DEBUG: SetActiveDevice - SetActiveDevice from 0 to 2
02:02:17 T:140671801657104 M:3643420672   DEBUG: RemoveActiveDevice - Removing device 0
02:02:17 T:140671801657104 M:3643420672   DEBUG: CNullDirectSound::Initialize - Channels: 2 - SampleRate: 48000 - SampleBit: 16 - Resample false - IsMusic false - IsPassthrough true - audioDevice: iec958:CARD=S51
02:02:17 T:140671801657104 M:3643420672   DEBUG: CDVDPlayerAudio:: synctype set to 0: clock feedback
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#82
Did you read this topic: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=83614 ?
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#83
yep... but my passthrough works in VLC & mplayer & other XBMC release. So for me its a bug!
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#84
Möhre Wrote:yep... but my passthrough works in VLC & mplayer & other XBMC release. So for me its a bug!
I'm not saying it aint a bug (because I too think it IS) but I meant: did you find a solution for 'yer prob/ there?
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#85
because the other apps are working i do not want to try the described procedure of that thread.
all my other years knowledge and google did not solve this problem.
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#86
Möhre Wrote:because the other apps are working i do not want to try the described procedure of that thread.
all my other years knowledge and google did not solve this problem.
I'm sorry to say that my knowlegdge did not help me either. Only thing that enables passtru is removing or stopping PA. This is because PA does not support dig. passtru. Try to kill the PA process. If that helps, you know enough. But until you purge PA you cannot be helped with said problem. No matter what you do. Maybe to be really sure you might try to contact people from pulseaudio themselves. But PA means NO passtru in XBMC. Mplayer, VLC and the likes just use alsa without the PA stuff, or can re-route the audio stream in some other way, but XBMC and PA is a no go.
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#87
xbmcuser01 Wrote:I'm sorry to say that my knowlegdge did not help me either. Only thing that enables passtru is removing or stopping PA. This is because PA does not support dig. passtru. Try to kill the PA process. If that helps, you know enough. But until you purge PA you cannot be helped with said problem. No matter what you do. Maybe to be really sure you might try to contact people from pulseaudio themselves. But PA means NO passtru in XBMC. Mplayer, VLC and the likes just use alsa without the PA stuff, or can re-route the audio stream in some other way, but XBMC and PA is a no go.

It seems fishy to me that the Ubuntu developers would include pulseaudio by default when it has a glaring, grotesque hole in it's functionality.

People using passthrough to good external decoders can't be that rare of an occurrence that a technology ends up included in (arguably) the most popular linux distribution that is so blatantly broken that we can't use it without massive reconfiguration.

I've noticed that Dharma B4 seems to be out now, so I'll be trying it in a little while to see if my issue persists (in case anyone has forgotten, it can be found in the first post on the first page, or in the youtube video I also posted later on) or if I'm still beat.
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#88
DoctorDyna Wrote:It seems fishy to me that the Ubuntu developers would include pulseaudio by default when it has a glaring, grotesque hole in it's functionality.
This has been a complete mystery to everybody in the world. I've been uninstalling PA immediately after installing a Linux version for years. I sincerely hate PA. It's a total piece of sh*te. The 'buntu boys have made some other mistakes since ver. 10.04 that are a bit weird. But the PA thing may be because they think that ESD (the Enlightenment Sound Daemon) isn't actively developped anymore (dunno for sure about that). And without an snddaemon no two sounds at the same time. So...
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#89
Managed to burn and try Dharma 4 live cd this morning, still no dice. Tried every combination of audio devices available to xbmc.

Sorry, but it looks like windows wins this round, even if I have to micromanage updates / virus protection and 20 gigs of garbage.
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