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Can the ASRock J3455-ITX output HDR10, are there any confirmations?
(2017-07-23, 15:37)fritsch Wrote: [ -> ]If you post the summary, we can for sure add it.
OK, here is the summary. Mod please modify the first post and mention in the thread title.
Please correct if my info is wrong. Thx
Linux LibreELEC:
4K, 8/10bit, HEVC/H264 and DD, DTS works but HD Audio (DTS-HD, TrueHD) does not work with this LibreELEC with latest 1.66 HDMI 2.0 Firmware
Windows 10:
4K, 8/10bit, HEVC/H264, 3D MVC, DTS-HD, TrueHD works with this KodiSetup-20170321-85da1e3c99-msdk_mvc_wip with latest 1.66 HDMI 2.0 Firmware
HDR (BT.2020) is not currently working.
1.66 firmware download link
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/downloa...BN-NUC6CAY
(2017-08-19, 14:44)dumpling Wrote: [ -> ] (2017-07-23, 15:37)fritsch Wrote: [ -> ]If you post the summary, we can for sure add it.
OK, here is the summary. Mod please modify the first post and mention in the thread title.
Please correct if my info is wrong. Thx
Linux LibreELEC:
4K, 8/10bit, HEVC/H264 and DD, DTS works but HD Audio (DTS-HD, TrueHD) does not work with this LibreELEC with latest 1.66 HDMI 2.0 Firmware
Windows 10:
4K, 8/10bit, HEVC/H264, 3D MVC, DTS-HD, TrueHD works with this KodiSetup-20170321-85da1e3c99-msdk_mvc_wip with latest 1.66 HDMI 2.0 Firmware
Think more accurate to say 8bit H264, 8/10bit HEVC for both. 10bit H264 is not supported by Apollo Lake hardware (or any other major platform) and thus there is no driver support for it. H264 10bit content (aka Hi10) is software decode only.
Quote:HDR (BT.2020) is not currently working.
BT2020 doesn't equal HDR... It's not correct to equate BT.2020 colourspace support with HDR support.
BT.2020 is the UHD equivalent of BT.709 (HD) and BT.601 (SD) - and as a standard on its own only includes SDR support.
BT.2100 added the PQ (HDR10 and Dolby VIsion) and HLG HDR OETF support I believe?
How about this?
Linux LibreELEC:
4K, 8bit H264, 8/10bit HEVC and DD, DTS works but HD Audio (DTS-HD, TrueHD) does not work with this LibreELEC with latest 1.66 HDMI 2.0 Firmware
Windows 10:
4K, 8bit H264, 8/10bit HEVC, 3D MVC, DTS-HD, TrueHD works with this KodiSetup-20170321-85da1e3c99-msdk_mvc_wip with latest 1.66 HDMI 2.0 Firmware
HDR is not working as of Aug 2017
1.66 firmware download link
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/downloa...BN-NUC6CAY
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BTW, I have a question.
How good is the upscale quality of Kodi compare to madvr?
For instance, 1080p to 4K because the new TV is mostly 4K.
I know it's a vague question because you can choose many different filters from madvr to do the upscale, thus different results.
But generally speaking, with a moderate setup of $100 CPU & $150 GPU for madvr, is Apollo Lake with Kodi produce a similar result in term of 1080p->4K upscale?
(2017-08-21, 13:46)dumpling Wrote: [ -> ]How about this?
Linux LibreELEC:
4K, 8bit H264, 8/10bit HEVC and DD, DTS works but HD Audio (DTS-HD, TrueHD) does not work with this LibreELEC with latest 1.66 HDMI 2.0 Firmware
Windows 10:
4K, 8bit H264, 8/10bit HEVC, 3D MVC, DTS-HD, TrueHD works with this KodiSetup-20170321-85da1e3c99-msdk_mvc_wip with latest 1.66 HDMI 2.0 Firmware
HDR is not currently working.
1.66 firmware download link https://downloadcenter.intel.com/downloa...BN-NUC6CAY
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BTW, I have a question.
How good is the upscale quality of Kodi compare to madvr?
For instance, 1080p to 4K because the new TV is mostly 4K.
I know it's a vague question because you can choose many different filters from madvr to do the upscale, thus different results.
But generally speaking, with a moderate setup of $100 CPU & $150 GPU for madvr, is Apollo Lake embed CPU/GPU produce a similar result in term of 1080p->4K upscale?
That looks better. Out of interest does PCM 5.1/7.1 work on either platform - as that would solve the HD Audio issues in Linux (as you can losslessly decode True HD and DTS HD to PCM 5.1/7.1 in Kodi - which is how the Pi series handle HD Audio losslessly for all but 192k/5.1 or 192k/7.1) - though this doesn't help with Atmos/DTS:x
(2017-08-21, 15:11)noggin Wrote: [ -> ] (2017-08-21, 13:46)dumpling Wrote: [ -> ]How about this?
Linux LibreELEC:
4K, 8bit H264, 8/10bit HEVC and DD, DTS works but HD Audio (DTS-HD, TrueHD) does not work with this LibreELEC with latest 1.66 HDMI 2.0 Firmware
Windows 10:
4K, 8bit H264, 8/10bit HEVC, 3D MVC, DTS-HD, TrueHD works with this KodiSetup-20170321-85da1e3c99-msdk_mvc_wip with latest 1.66 HDMI 2.0 Firmware
HDR is not currently working.
1.66 firmware download link https://downloadcenter.intel.com/downloa...BN-NUC6CAY
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BTW, I have a question.
How good is the upscale quality of Kodi compare to madvr?
For instance, 1080p to 4K because the new TV is mostly 4K.
I know it's a vague question because you can choose many different filters from madvr to do the upscale, thus different results.
But generally speaking, with a moderate setup of $100 CPU & $150 GPU for madvr, is Apollo Lake embed CPU/GPU produce a similar result in term of 1080p->4K upscale?
That looks better. Out of interest does PCM 5.1/7.1 work on either platform - as that would solve the HD Audio issues in Linux (as you can losslessly decode True HD and DTS HD to PCM 5.1/7.1 in Kodi - which is how the Pi series handle HD Audio losslessly for all but 192k/5.1 or 192k/7.1) - though this doesn't help with Atmos/DTS:x
Decoding and sending via LPCM works from 2 to 7.1 channels.
(2017-08-21, 17:59)Ach!lles Wrote: [ -> ] (2017-08-21, 15:11)noggin Wrote: [ -> ] (2017-08-21, 13:46)dumpling Wrote: [ -> ]How about this?
Linux LibreELEC:
4K, 8bit H264, 8/10bit HEVC and DD, DTS works but HD Audio (DTS-HD, TrueHD) does not work with this LibreELEC with latest 1.66 HDMI 2.0 Firmware
Windows 10:
4K, 8bit H264, 8/10bit HEVC, 3D MVC, DTS-HD, TrueHD works with this KodiSetup-20170321-85da1e3c99-msdk_mvc_wip with latest 1.66 HDMI 2.0 Firmware
HDR is not currently working.
1.66 firmware download link https://downloadcenter.intel.com/downloa...BN-NUC6CAY
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BTW, I have a question.
How good is the upscale quality of Kodi compare to madvr?
For instance, 1080p to 4K because the new TV is mostly 4K.
I know it's a vague question because you can choose many different filters from madvr to do the upscale, thus different results.
But generally speaking, with a moderate setup of $100 CPU & $150 GPU for madvr, is Apollo Lake embed CPU/GPU produce a similar result in term of 1080p->4K upscale?
That looks better. Out of interest does PCM 5.1/7.1 work on either platform - as that would solve the HD Audio issues in Linux (as you can losslessly decode True HD and DTS HD to PCM 5.1/7.1 in Kodi - which is how the Pi series handle HD Audio losslessly for all but 192k/5.1 or 192k/7.1) - though this doesn't help with Atmos/DTS:x
Decoding and sending via LPCM works from 2 to 7.1 channels.
So unless you need Atmos/DTS:x or you need Dolby/DTS Metadata for processing (like DRC) then PCM 5.1/7.1 compatibility means you get lossless HD Audio decoding - so for many, no major real-world limitation?
(2017-08-21, 18:11)noggin Wrote: [ -> ]So unless you need Atmos/DTS:x or you need Dolby/DTS Metadata for processing (like DRC) then PCM 5.1/7.1 compatibility means you get lossless HD Audio decoding - so for many, no major real-world limitation?
In 2017 i would say that it is a real world limitation because even if you don't want to install as many speakers there are enough alternatives by using atmos enabled soundbars. So Atmos&Co. is not only for audio nerds in these days.
(2017-08-26, 16:08)mule1 Wrote: [ -> ] (2017-08-21, 18:11)noggin Wrote: [ -> ]So unless you need Atmos/DTS:x or you need Dolby/DTS Metadata for processing (like DRC) then PCM 5.1/7.1 compatibility means you get lossless HD Audio decoding - so for many, no major real-world limitation?
In 2017 i would say that it is a real world limitation because even if you don't want to install as many speakers there are enough alternatives by using atmos enabled soundbars. So Atmos&Co. is not only for audio nerds in these days.
No - but equally there are many people with existing non-Atmos/DTS:x amps who are fine with 5.1/7.1 Dolby True HD/DTS HD Master Audio decoded losslessly to PCM 5.1/7.1
People may have assumed that no HD Audio bitstreaming = No Lossless HD Audio playback - whereas with internal Kodi decoding to PCM 5.1/7.1 output you DO have a Lossless 5.1/7.1 PCM playback option.
If you need/want Atmos/DTS:x - look elsewhere of course.
Intel page says HDR is only available with HDMI 2.0a
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/enable-10bpp
High Dynamic Range (HDR)
HDR video content is supported using either the HEVC Main 10 or VP9.2 codec, which
includes full hardware decode support starting with 7th generation Intel processors. To transmit HDR content, the system needs to be equipped with
either DP 1.4 or HDMI 2.0a port. This feature is currently tested with pre-released OS but not yet available with public releases. Enabling HDR and its support will be provided in upcoming articles.
This page says HD500 belongs to 7th generation Intel processors
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/...rview.html
So J3455 itself support HDR but limit to the HDMI spec. I just wondering if the 2.0a can be upgraded through firmware.
Already tried the new driver. Didn`t saw any change related with HDR.
Intel already said no HDR on apollo lake.
They were pretty explicit about it.