(2016-11-01, 09:16)spawn_lmg Wrote: [ -> ]Why write in "Zidoo X9S Issue Tracker" that everything is working, if it is not?
I corrected it back!
I didn't make any changes in the issue tracker. As for refresh rate switching not working in other apps, Zidoo's (Realtek's) implementation is proprietary. It may never work with third party players. The same goes for HD audio passthrough. It doesn't work in any of the third party players (MX Player, Archos Video).
I have a question: Does the X9S support resolution switching? i.e., you set the GUI resolution to 2160p and when you play 1080p video, it switches to 1080p. I have also mentioned about the constant audio & video dropouts. This happens when you play 1080p video @ 2160p with HD audio passthrough. Has anyone else experienced this?
Regarding AV-Sync, the measured offsets are +54ms (DTS-HD Master Audio) and -164ms (Dolby TrueHD). + means audio is ahead, - means audio lags. Tested in ZDMC only.
I had edited the spreadsheet as
resolution refresh rate switching is working. 25fps being output at 50fps is considered okay, as is 30 at 60.
@
wesk05, I'd be curious about audio offsets for native player and what you think vs. other media players you've tested with.
(2016-11-01, 19:02)hdmkv Wrote: [ -> ]I had edited the spreadsheet as resolution switching is working. 25fps being output at 50fps is considered okay, as is 30 at 60.
@wesk05, I'd be curious about audio offsets for native player and what you think vs. other media players you've tested with.
It supports
resolution & refresh rate switching? If it does, for whatever reason I'm not seeing resolution switching with 1.2.4.
Will check AV-Sync with the native player later tonight. I have to say that the numbers are specific to my configuration (AVR, TV). It may be slightly different on another system (10-50ms).
Sorry, meant refresh rate switching, not resolution. Playing a 1080p video on a 4K display upscales that video to 2160p.
(2016-11-01, 20:35)hdmkv Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry, meant refresh rate switching, not resolution. Playing a 1080p video on a 4K display upscales that video to 2160p.
It would be great if the box changes the resolution to 1080p in this case.
As a downside to this, if I set the box to Auto resolution it plays 1080p in 1080p, but it then plays 2160p in 1080p also, so the box has to be set at 2160.
My early opinions are,
3D iso playback is great.
3D MKV has no depth.
Everything else is a bit of a mess, I will write a list of things that don't work or 'bug' me tomorrow.
@wesk, the audio dropouts seem to be caused with deep color set to any use with color space set to auto, try setting Color space to 4:2:2 with deep color auto, it has solved some problems for me.
(2016-11-01, 23:30)DaMacFunkin Wrote: [ -> ]As a downside to this, if I set the box to Auto resolution it plays 1080p in 1080p, but it then plays 2160p in 1080p also, so the box has to be set at 2160.
My early opinions are,
3D iso playback is great.
3D MKV has no depth.
Everything else is a bit of a mess, I will write a list of things that don't work or 'bug' me tomorrow.
@wesk, the audio dropouts seem to be caused with deep color set to any use with color space set to auto, try setting Color space to 4:2:2 with deep color auto, it has solved some problems for me.
As I said,Proper playing MVC MKV's to framepacking(no depth issue),In completely rewriting about this, it takes some time.
(2016-11-01, 17:10)OlivierQC Wrote: [ -> ]Hello,
mumakil returned to FW 1.2.3 and the issue disappeared.
he try the Fw 1.2.4 now
The DTS-HD delay issue happened with MKV files,BD ISO no problem,right?We reproduced it.Checking.
Thanks for your sample file.
(2016-11-01, 20:35)hdmkv Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry, meant refresh rate switching, not resolution. Playing a 1080p video on a 4K display upscales that video to 2160p.
You need to be more specific for those reading....
What exactly is doing the upscaling, the TV or the X9S. I ask as the Shield has problems in this specific area.
The preferred method is output video @ 1080p and let a 4K TV do the 720/1080p > 2160p upscaling using superior Hardware and Algorithmns.
All this Resolution / Refresh switching is completely sorted out and seamless when running LibreELEC Jarvis on AMLogic S905 platforms as an example. But then you are not complicating matters by using Android or external player solutions with LE either.
(2016-11-01, 19:02)hdmkv Wrote: [ -> ]@wesk05, I'd be curious about audio offsets for native player and what you think vs. other media players you've tested with.
Ignore the numbers in the previous post. Something might have gone wrong with that testing. I retested tonight and the numbers below are the average of 5 runs. All tests were done with resolution set to 1080p60 and Auto 24p enabled. The test files have 23.976 frame rate and were in MKV container. + means audio is ahead of video, - means audio lags video.
Mediacenter
Dolby TrueHD - +285ms
DTS-HD Master Audio - +62ms
ZDMC (External Player-enabled)
Dolby TrueHD - +266ms
DTS-HD Master Audio - +59ms
ZDMC (External Player-disabled)
Dolby TrueHD - +110ms
DTS-HD Master Audio - +80ms
So, it looks like the native player has large offsets for Dolby TrueHD. I can't explain why I am not getting audio delays with DTS-HD Master Audio that every one else is reporting.
(2016-11-01, 21:42)spawn_lmg Wrote: [ -> ]Set display mode 1080@24Hz and play this is test video
with the system player and ZDMC player.
And write that switch and what not!
I set resolution to 1080p24 and tested 29.97, 30, 50 and 59.94. Refresh rate switched correctly for 50, 59.94. For 29.97 it asked me to switch 2160p59.94 for better experience. If you don't accept it, it will stay at 1080p24. For 30 also it didn't switch.
(2016-11-01, 23:30)DaMacFunkin Wrote: [ -> ]@wesk, the audio dropouts seem to be caused with deep color set to any use with color space set to auto, try setting Color space to 4:2:2 with deep color auto, it has solved some problems for me.
You and @
timstephens24 are right. If you set color space to YCbCr 4:2:2 and leave deep color mode to auto, A/V dropouts stop. The issue here is, if you select YCbCr 4:2:2, 4K 24/25/30 etc. is output in 8-bit and this includes HEVC 10-bit/HDR video clips. It can't be a bandwidth problem because 4K 24/25/30 10/12-bit 4:2:2, 8-bit 4:2:2/4:4:4 all have the same data rate of 8.91Gbps.
(2016-11-02, 05:51)wrxtasy Wrote: [ -> ]You need to be more specific for those reading....
All this Resolution / Refresh switching is completely sorted out and seamless when running LibreELEC Jarvis on AMLogic S905 platforms as an example. But then you are not complicating matters by using Android or external player solutions with LE either.
I understood what @
hdmkv was trying to say
As per @
Koying, Android 6.0 does support resolution switching. It just hasn't been implemented properly in any device so far.
Has anyone had any experience with the Dune HD 4k solo lite (extra features of the non-lite version not seeming to be worth the extra cost). On paper, at least, it has all the specs and features I've heard people ask for. It's very new so actual reviews are a bit thin on the ground at the moment.
(2016-11-02, 08:35)wesk05 Wrote: [ -> ]You and @timstephens24 are right. If you set color space to YCbCr 4:2:2 and leave deep color mode to auto, A/V dropouts stop. The issue here is, if you select YCbCr 4:2:2, 4K 24/25/30 etc. is output in 8-bit and this includes HEVC 10-bit/HDR video clips. It can't be a bandwidth problem because 4K 24/25/30 10/12-bit 4:2:2, 8-bit 4:2:2/4:4:4 all have the same data rate of 8.91Gbps.
How can you tell that 4k@24hz 4:2:2 & Deep color Auto is outputting 8 bits?
In this mode if i go into my Denon information it can't detect the bit rate and just displays '---'
If I choose 4k@24hz 4:2:2 & Deep color off my Denon reports 8bit.
If i choose 4k@24hz 4:2:2 & Deep color 10bit My Denon reports '---'
If i choose 4k@24hz 4:4:4 (or Auto) & Deep color Auto My Denon Reports 12bit but as you say, you say you start to get audio drop outs and pops with HD audio.
Very Frustrating, i think we need answers, mirror88 assured me the box could playback 4k 24hz 10bit at 4k 24hz 10bit, as of yet i have seen no verification of this.
@
wesk05 how do you do audio offsets test?