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I had this years old problem where TMM would get stuck when starting up.. logs produced nothing and I had to kill the java process and start TMM again.. The problem was with OpenJDK 8 and not TMM.. Today I tried OpenJDK 9 and I am very happy to report that TMM starts up just fine every damn time Blush ... Finally after years of killing JAVA process.. lol.. I am finally free Big Grin