althekiller Wrote:I did, my warnings were removed or at least numbed to the point most anyone would glance over it without concern.
@olympia, I may have misspoken when I said many users came on the forums complaining their system didn't work. Thinking back, most came on the IRC channel. There were probably 3-5 per week for awhile. As for you asking me "personally several times" I only remember talking with you about it once. I described the portions I wasn't pleased with and why. I don't go following forum threads or any nonsense like that. So, if you posted in one thinking I was keeping track of it, I apologize, but there's always PM.
Hehhh, it's getting more and more fun.
I always deciding not to react any more, but AlTheKiller again and again is able to "poke me into action".
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althekiller
It's a bit difficult to me to getting into this argument with you, as XBMC is the best media center in the world and you'are one of the great devs, who contributed and make it happen.
So I truelly respect you and your contribution!
As a result of that, I really don't want to "paint you as a bad guy", but at least you're for sure not a nice one. I really don't know and understand why I deserved your antipathy. It was getting personal like
"Some ass hat replaced with with some broke ass english"; "Making people blindly dl scripts then not explaining them is a great help to the community"; or "The author deemed it fit to just dump this info out with out thoroughly explaining it. Makes you wonder if he even knows how it works, eh?". All in all the only reason I am replying now, becasue you stated a few things which I feel need to be defended.
You guys are always saying to folks not to build XBMC communities outside of the official site. Instead of that, you encourage people to come here to contribute and make things better (on the wiki as well). Now you're suggesting to me to host my guide elsewhere. I won't!
I can stand any criticism (being positive or negative), but not lying, or when people say verdict from something they don't know.
Let's see come facts:
Based on the following IRC discussion on 04-28-2009 with TheUni it seems you were not reading and understand the whole purpose of the guide:
"AlTheKiller: Only part I've read is the auto-boot section."
Prior to this date you were bombing already the guide and say it is a "full crap". How you know this if you were not reading it upfront?
You stated there were 3-5 support request on IRC per week for a while, compaining about the guide. I checked back the IRC logs for a month and I haven't found any of them! Why you're stating something which is not true?
It also happened, that once you realized somebody asking for your support was following my guide, you were not willing to help even if there was nothing to do with the installation method.
You also mentioned it's a nonsense for you to following forum threads. Yes, mainly I asked your help and suggestions on the forum, I think just once in PM. As you really seemed to ignore me, it's true that I didn't start to spam your personal inbox with my messages. Maybe it's my bad, but why to talk somebody who is not willing to respond you?
In this case I think you neither followed this thread so you probably haven't realized, that ALMOST ALL problems and support request concerning the guide itself was responded and SOLVED here.
And some words about the guide:
- Yes, let's say it's unsafe, I agree with that! But if you would really want to solve this, you could offer to host the files on a trusted host and lock the wiki entry from being edit even by ninja right.
- It would also be possible not to host the files, but use pastebin to share the content of the files, then modify the guide to copy-paste into a file. It would be a little bit more safer, but lot more uncomfortable
- Concerning alsa upgrade. Yes, it's break apt, but it was indeed NEEDED for proper sound setup on Hardy and Intrepid. There were no other solution. I am not sure about Jaunty.
So all in all once more:
I accept and respect your decision!
But please don't say things which are not true about support requests, nor that the guide didn't worked!