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Just a quick question as I cant find a reliable answer elsewhere.
Flash video- full-screen flash, video seems to freeze on my machine after a few minutes (audio continues).. some advised disabling hardware accel in flash settings, but that dosen't fix it, it just delays the inevitable freeze. I get this with iPlayer when I'm using xbmc. Anyone else had this or know how to fix it?

(WinXP Pro SP3, ASRock 330 Ion DualCore 1.6, 2GB ram, NVidia 9400, latest Flash Player)
The system is a pentium 4 with intel graphics (810 series). It manages to play the bbc hd streams fine with your plugin in XBMC. The same cannot be said for viewing in a browser on the iplayer webpage but i do not mind.

How does XBMC play the bbc streams? Are they in a flash format or h264? I am confused about this.

Wasn't and amd/ati backend for video decoding developed before VDPAU?

I will replace the system soon anyway as I cannot upgrade the graphics. It generally struggles in its current role. Any excessive movement on the screen that is not fullscreen video generally makes it sound like an airplane taking off. Sometimes it can't seem to cope with the XBMC menu graphics and crashes. I do still think there is something wrong with the skipping /seeking feature in iplayer plugin but the unstableness of the whole system overall makes it impossible to be sure of this.
The video is encoding in H.264 and transported via Adobe's RTMP protocol. On the IPlayer site the software which decodes the stream and renders the video is a flash plugin. XBMC uses it's own RTMP library to decode the stream and passes the H.264 video data to either it's own (ffmpeg) decoding library or via VDPAU to a NVIDIA GPU.

For hardware decoding there isn't any other option than Linux using the VDPAU api to a NVIDIA GPU. ATI doesn't have a working hardware decoding library under Linux and the windows version of XBMC doesn't yet support any form of hardware decode.

It is quite possible that the intel graphics are a large part of your problem from what I understand they are really very underpowered. The difference between Intel and NVidia graphics is shown in particular by the difference adding an NVidia ION makes to an Atom processor. Something like this. If you check under the Linux forum there is lots of info there on this type of platform.

Cheers
Dink





kasbah Wrote:The system is a pentium 4 with intel graphics (810 series). It manages to play the bbc hd streams fine with your plugin in XBMC. The same cannot be said for viewing in a browser on the iplayer webpage but i do not mind.

How does XBMC play the bbc streams? Are they in a flash format or h264? I am confused about this.

Wasn't and amd/ati backend for video decoding developed before VDPAU?

I will replace the system soon anyway as I cannot upgrade the graphics. It generally struggles in its current role. Any excessive movement on the screen that is not fullscreen video generally makes it sound like an airplane taking off. Sometimes it can't seem to cope with the XBMC menu graphics and crashes. I do still think there is something wrong with the skipping /seeking feature in iplayer plugin but the unstableness of the whole system overall makes it impossible to be sure of this.
PantsOnFire Wrote:Just a quick question as I cant find a reliable answer elsewhere.
Flash video- full-screen flash, video seems to freeze on my machine after a few minutes (audio continues).. some advised disabling hardware accel in flash settings, but that dosen't fix it, it just delays the inevitable freeze. I get this with iPlayer when I'm using xbmc. Anyone else had this or know how to fix it?

(WinXP Pro SP3, ASRock 330 Ion DualCore 1.6, 2GB ram, NVidia 9400, latest Flash Player)

Are you using a recent xbmc revision and are using using VDPAU?

Cheers
Dink
XBMC Windows (so no VDPAU) version, 23393.
PantsOnFire Wrote:XBMC Windows (so no VDPAU) version, 23393.

Things to try:
  • A later version of xbmc http://forum.xbmc.org/showpost.php?p=423...count=1088
  • switching off any software upscaling
  • monitoring CPU usage to see if you are running at 100%
  • have a look in the logs for error messages
  • (and if you are up for a bit of an experiment try XBMC live and VDPAU)

Cheers
Dink
Hi All,

I'm having a slight problem with the latest iPlayer plugin. It seems that to get it to work I need to shutdown XBMC, login as root (sudo bash) and then load XBMC back up again. It will then work fine until I shut down the machine. If I don't do this then, I can get as far as the channels only for an error to be thrown up.

I've checked the file privileges and they all seem correct (although I'm no Linux expert).

Just to give you a bit more insight; I've got a minimum Linux setup on an Acer Revo box.

Any help would be welcome.

Thanks,
JJ
JJWonderboy Wrote:Hi All,

I'm having a slight problem with the latest iPlayer plugin. It seems that to get it to work I need to shutdown XBMC, login as root (sudo bash) and then load XBMC back up again. It will then work fine until I shut down the machine. If I don't do this then, I can get as far as the channels only for an error to be thrown up.

I've checked the file privileges and they all seem correct (although I'm no Linux expert).

Just to give you a bit more insight; I've got a minimum Linux setup on an Acer Revo box.

Any help would be welcome.

Thanks,
JJ


I haven't heard of a problem like this before. Has anyone else?
Can you post xbmc logs?

Cheers
Dink
Hi Folks

Just to let you know I have posted a new version of the plugin (2009-10-24) up at http://code.google.com/p/xbmc-iplayerv2/ . The only change is that searches are now saved and listed for future use.

If no one finds any issues with this version I will release via SVN later on.

Cheers
Dink
Hi all,

Today I have upgraded Ubuntu to 9.10 and I have also updated XBMC from the repository.

Everything works fine except the iPlayer plugin the now takes ages to load each directory. Is anybody experiencing the same problem?

Thanks
Kaaino Wrote:Hi all,

Today I have upgraded Ubuntu to 9.10 and I have also updated XBMC from the repository.

Everything works fine except the iPlayer plugin the now takes ages to load each directory. Is anybody experiencing the same problem?

Thanks

Can you supply logs?
Kaaino Wrote:Hi all,

Today I have upgraded Ubuntu to 9.10 and I have also updated XBMC from the repository.

Everything works fine except the iPlayer plugin the now takes ages to load each directory. Is anybody experiencing the same problem?

Thanks

I've had another thought. What happens if you downgrade the version of the plugin. This would rule out the Ubuntu 9.10 RC build.

Cheers
Dink
dink Wrote:I've had another thought. What happens if you downgrade the version of the plugin. This would rule out the Ubuntu 9.10 RC build.

Cheers
Dink

It seems that the problem was not with the iplayer plugin. Also SVN repo browser showed the same issue. Today I have upgraded again XBMC and the problem is solved.
Hello,

Is this still working for everyone?

I've just started having problems, I can enter directories, (popular, categories etc) but when I am unable to play videos.

Tried updating to latest svn of both iPlayer plugin and xbmc but no joy.

pastebin of debug log is here: http://pastebin.com/m37713eec

Any help much appreciated.

Cheers,

Alex
Can you try this again. Everything seems to be working fine for me this morning.

Cheers
Dink


gerner Wrote:Hello,

Is this still working for everyone?

I've just started having problems, I can enter directories, (popular, categories etc) but when I am unable to play videos.

Tried updating to latest svn of both iPlayer plugin and xbmc but no joy.

pastebin of debug log is here: http://pastebin.com/m37713eec

Any help much appreciated.

Cheers,

Alex