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RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - movie78 - 2016-09-30
Are you testing the HDR content on an HDR TV or just a regular 4K TV?
With the TV specialist( eg. David Katzmaier), HDR is totally different from 4K but that is a debate for another day.
RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - hdmkv - 2016-09-30
Regular 4K TV, w/o HDR sadly. I'm testing if playback is smooth, and if PQ is free of any ill artifacts. That's all.
Hopefully users w/HDR display will get their hands on a X9S and report their findings at some point.
RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - OlivierQC - 2016-09-30
Hello hdmkv,
if you send me your zidoo, i can check that
RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - movie78 - 2016-09-30
(2016-09-30, 15:31)hdmkv Wrote: Regular 4K TV, w/o HDR sadly. I'm testing if playback is smooth, and if PQ is free of any ill artifacts. That's all.
Hopefully users w/HDR display will get their hands on a X9S and report their findings at some point.
Try a couple HDR content on the Himedia Q10 Pro and HDR works flawlessly, I wondering if X9S really support HDR.
RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - hdmkv - 2016-09-30
(2016-09-30, 15:42)OlivierQC Wrote: Hello hdmkv,And, you send me both your HDR TV and X9S back when you're done? Sure!
if you send me your zidoo, i can check that
But, seriously, grab one off Amazon, eBay or PM @mirror88
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RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - OlivierQC - 2016-09-30
(2016-09-30, 17:43)hdmkv Wrote:(2016-09-30, 15:42)OlivierQC Wrote: Hello hdmkv,And, you send me both your HDR TV and X9S back when you're done? Sure!
if you send me your zidoo, i can check that
yes trust me
But, seriously, grab one off Amazon, eBay or PM @mirror88
It will be too expensive to purchase in the US due to the import fees. I will wait for until it is available in Canada.
RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - movie78 - 2016-09-30
Saving up for 4K Projector so I might have to pass on this one..
@OlivierQC
Both your TV's support HDR (Sony XBR65x930c / XBR55X850D)
RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - Skank - 2016-09-30
(2016-09-29, 15:24)hdmkv Wrote: I'll test whether 1080p is output at 4K.
@movie78, partially agree w/you on X6 (depth was okay, not great, but PQ was more on flat side). X6 used the so-so Rockchip 3368 SoC. X9S has a totally different SoC w/Realtek 1295. X9S does not have any issues w/3D quality, in ISO's only for now however.
On a related note, I'm reading rumors that Mede8er may finally release a new player using RTD1295. They've been known to take their time and do it right, so will be interesting if they jump in.
(2016-09-28, 17:33)hdmkv Wrote: Over CAT5E wired, via my Synology NAS, it can actually do 300Mbps using native player. With ZDMC and internal player, 180Mbps. Your NAS and network affect bandwidth obviously.Tested, and X9S plays Jellyfish-400-Mbps-2160p-hevc-10bit clip smoothly.
I'll try the max available 400Mbps later today.
Where did u read that from mede8er?
Will test zidoo tomorrow
RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - hdmkv - 2016-09-30
A few threads/posts in their forum w/rumors about them jumping in next year w/RTD1295. Take it w/grain of salt though.
RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - wrxtasy - 2016-10-01
(2016-09-30, 05:22)tienlequoc Wrote:Testing the playback of a 400Mbps HEVC clip is demonstrating what exactly, especially one without audio ?(2016-09-30, 02:09)boblo Wrote: @hdmkv: Can the Q10 Pro play the 400Mbps Jellyfish clip too?
Can play, but... not smooth
Its all W**K value if you ask me, considering triple layer UHD Blurays Max out at 128Mbps.
Tests like these being done really are completely irrelevant.
RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - hdmkv - 2016-10-01
Agree. I'm really only putting media players through the 400Mbps clip just to see how good their GigE throughput really is, but for actual use, like you said, 128Mbps is enough. If a media player can do 140Mbps, it should safely be able to play any 4K. Also, who knows if we'll get ability to rip UHD BD's.
Watched 'In the Heart of the Sea' 3D ISO last night, first half on X9S, and second half on Intel i3 w/Kodi MVC build. I couldn't see any differences; both as good (again w/o benefit of a side-by-side comparison). Maybe some extra perceptive users will. Really liked the movie, w/solid use of 3D effects. Don't know why it didn't fare that well w/critics and audiences.
RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - wrxtasy - 2016-10-02
I've added a section for Newbies - Plug N Play turnkey Kodi media player solutions that work out of the box or by simply downloading the Kodi App from various App stores, in the START HERE thread.
I'm not including Kodi boxes that either require sideloading of Kodi / SPMC etc. Nor devices that require extra users steps and external wrapper solutions to be applied to use the special features of the particular box. (ie 1080p 3D).
From what I understand HiMedia's Q5/10 devices require extra steps and wrapper solutions to first be applied.
So simple question does ZDMC on the X9S work out of the box and meet those Newbie turnkey criteria ?
RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - hdmkv - 2016-10-02
Both Q5/Q10 Pro and X9S work out of the box...
With Q5/Q10 Pro, the wrapper APK is preinstalled (as of the last few f/w releases), as is Kodi (forgetting which version). Reason HiMedia doesn't pre-apply the wrapper is that they obviously don't know whether user will stick to preinstalled Kodi or install another version of their choice. In any case, all the user needs to do is run Kodi once, quit, then launch the wrapper app, apply it. Done.
With X9S, it's a more elegant solution. Launch ZDMC and simply enable 'Play video with external player' in settings (as shown in a screenshot in photo gallery in my review). Done.
RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - noggin - 2016-10-02
(2016-10-01, 04:08)wrxtasy Wrote:(2016-09-30, 05:22)tienlequoc Wrote:Testing the playback of a 400Mbps HEVC clip is demonstrating what exactly, especially one without audio ?(2016-09-30, 02:09)boblo Wrote: @hdmkv: Can the Q10 Pro play the 400Mbps Jellyfish clip too?
Can play, but... not smooth
Its all W**K value if you ask me, considering triple layer UHD Blurays Max out at 128Mbps.
Tests like these being done really are completely irrelevant.
They're a good stress test for networking and the underlying sub-systems though, particularly for UHD. Whilst UHD Blu-ray and streaming services may max out at relatively low bitrates, it's entirely possible to shoot UHD video using DSLR or Mirrorless cameras at quite a low price point, that will run at higher bitrates. Whilst a lot of these will be in codecs or colour spaces that aren't compatible, not all of them will be, and people may chose to transcode at higher than normal bitrates to retain quality (or use a less heavy-duty codec)
Some of us don't just use Kodi for watching content made by others, some of us use it to watch content we make ourselves :-)
For bitrate reference : http://www.cineverse.net/images/SONY_F55_and_F5_RECORD_DATA_RATES_and_TIME.pdf These are the bitrates being used in broadcast and professional situations - albeit all 4:2:2 or RAW - but they give you an idea why 400Mbs isn't an insane suggestion...
RE: Zidoo X9S (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - lofgents - 2016-10-02
Please would anyone be able to comment on the video quality on a 1080p display(55 inch Sony). I am torn between this and the Hi media Q5 Pro but comments about the Imprex engine and frame stuttering are leaning me toward the X9S. I will udate to a 4K display in the future but want the best quality in the meantime.
Thanks.