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RE: Vero OSMC - samburrows - 2015-03-22 (2015-03-22, 14:50)Milhouse Wrote:(2015-03-22, 14:20)samburrows Wrote: Personally, if it hadn't have been for the ability to be finally able to access DTS / 5.1 sound content then I would be really disappointed with the device as it would have offered nothing over my previous Pi setup (in fact, being critical, it would have offered less). Well that'a s tale of woe which probably isn't that helpful for this thread! My AV receiver hated my Raspberry Pi - it skewed the image off the screen, CEC didn't work and various other problems. It's a very good Onkyo receiver so was loathe to change a £500 piece of hardware to accommodate the needs of a £30 circuit board! Because of these issues, I resorted to a workaround - Pi plugged in to TV directly via HDMI and then TV to AV receiver via digital optical cable. It delivered a nice sound and ProLogic did a decent job of creating a surround ambience but impossible to get discrete 5.1 through that setup. I was always happy to live with the limitation until I found a new piece of hardware and Vero was earmarked to be the solution to that particular problem. RE: Vero OSMC - Milhouse - 2015-03-22 OK fair enough. When testing the Pi with my Onkyo AV I've never had a problem (originally a TX-NR905, currently a TX-NR828). Maybe a slight incompatibility with your particular AV reciever, or even a component slightly out of spec. Strange you didn't bring it to the attention of anyone on this forum, but glad you've found your solution. RE: Vero OSMC - zaphod24 - 2015-03-22 (2015-03-22, 14:20)samburrows Wrote: Hi, I received mine yesterday. Here is my initial review, which I have just uploaded to the OSMC forums too. Hope it is useful. Thank you so much for this thorough review! As the owner of a Cubox-i2, your initial experience was (unfortunately) exactly what I was expecting. I was hoping that OSMC had been tuned a bit more to the i.MX6 hardware since it's been 3 months from initial order to delivery. Instead, it sounds like you're experiencing some of the same things I did with the i2 that eventually convinced me to move to an RPi2 (where I put 2 RPi2 systems together for about the same price as 1 Vero). I don't need the 5.1 audio (yet anyway), so for me that isn't a difference-maker. I see on the OSMC forums that work is already under way to try and improve the IR response. That was one of the more annoying issues I experienced with my i2 as well. I'd also be interested to know what kind of range you're seeing with the IR remote. I was just using a standard MCE remote and it wasn't good/reliable more than 3 or 4 meters away from the receiver. The same remote works well across the room with the USB receiver on my RPi2. Have a look at the deinterlacing thread at http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=211289. I would be curious how this sample from there does on your Vero, http://solidrun.maltegrosse.de/~fritsch/1080i50_h264.ts. My i2 just could not keep up when deinterlacing was enabled and by the end of playback the video/audio sync was several seconds out of wack. From the developers posting in that thread with access to several different devices, the i4 does seem to do much better. $199 is a very steep price for what it sounds like you've been delivered so far. The 3 years of support makes it better, but I've seen too many similar claims end up not being fulfilled when companies go under. RE: Vero OSMC - Sam.Nazarko - 2015-03-23 Quote:As the owner of a Cubox-i2, your initial experience was (unfortunately) exactly what I was expecting. I was hoping that OSMC had been tuned a bit more to the i.MX6 hardware since it's been 3 months from initial order to delivery. Instead, it sounds like you're experiencing some of the same things I did with the i2 that eventually convinced me to move to an RPi2 (where I put 2 RPi2 systems together for about the same price as 1 Vero). Just to weigh in here. $199 allows us to reliably deliver support and updates for years to come. Yes, I could have got this on to the market at a lower price, but a good part of the pricepoint covers support and development. There's no point shipping hardware if you can't support it with good software. We won't be going under. RE: Vero OSMC - zaphod24 - 2015-03-23 (2015-03-22, 14:20)samburrows Wrote: The speed performance of the device is really disappointing compared to openELEC on the Pi and I will probably do some reading to see how easy installing openELEC would be on this device. Not sure how 3 years of support is going to help if folks just jump ship to another distro that runs Kodi in search of better/faster performance. I used Geexbox and OpenELEC on my Cubox-i2 and both worked pretty good. I'd love to evaluate OSMC on my Cubox-i2 as well. RE: Vero OSMC - MediaPi - 2015-03-23 Skylake is around the corner.... RE: Vero OSMC - Sam.Nazarko - 2015-03-23 (2015-03-23, 19:51)zaphod24 Wrote:(2015-03-22, 14:20)samburrows Wrote: The speed performance of the device is really disappointing compared to openELEC on the Pi and I will probably do some reading to see how easy installing openELEC would be on this device. As you can see here however, (2015-03-23, 20:27)MediaPi Wrote: Skylake is around the corner.... Clearly OpenELEC and GeexBox have not provided you with enough, or you would not be posting here. We don't lock down our bootloader: so users can do whatever they want with a Vero. Can we actually have people who purchased Vero comment here? Instead of a paranoid developer who sees his user-base slipping by the day and disgruntled CuBox users? I think this thread should be locked and a new one made, where people that have actually bought a Vero can comment in it. This will be my last post in this thread. We work on improving the Vero experience, and the Vero experience only. Please start a new thread for i.MX6 issues. Re: RE: Vero OSMC - Martijn - 2015-03-23 (2015-03-23, 22:15)Sam.Nazarko Wrote: Can we actually have people who purchased Vero comment here? Instead of a paranoid developer who sees his user-base slipping by the day and disgruntled CuBox users? Hahaha you are talking about yourself right? Can't imagine any one else. RE: Vero OSMC - Sam.Nazarko - 2015-03-23 .. Care to explain? We have always encouraged users to try all available distributions for their platform.. I am not exactly sure what part of the sentence you are quoting. RE: Vero OSMC - nickr - 2015-03-23 ENOUGH PLEASE. RE: Vero OSMC - Koying - 2015-03-24 We are all waiting for reviews of the actual device. I don't think any of the devs has used Vivante's little brother GPU (gc800) for more than quick runs, so we are eager to hear how it performs. RE: Vero OSMC - samburrows - 2015-03-24 (2015-03-24, 08:20)Koying Wrote: We are all waiting for reviews of the actual device. I've seen two reviews 'in the wild now' - my own on the previous page of this forum and then this 'first impressions' piece from 4nd: [/align] 4nd Review RE: Vero OSMC - samburrows - 2015-03-24 Quote: I'd also be interested to know what kind of range you're seeing with the IR remote. I was just using a standard MCE remote and it wasn't good/reliable more than 3 or 4 meters away from the receiver. The same remote works well across the room with the USB receiver on my RPi2. Just to follow up on this. I re-positioned the device last night so that the range between sofa and Vero was much reduced - now only about 2.5 meters, plus panel angled more towards the viewing angle. The remote now seems to work flawlessly and has removed a fair amount of frustration - you may be right about the limited range. RE: Vero OSMC - Koying - 2015-03-24 @samburrows What seemed strange on your review is that you pointed out that the GUI was slower than your RPI1B. The second review do not seem to mention it, and it's hard to tell from his video (we don't know at what pace he pressed the remote buttons). RE: Vero OSMC - samburrows - 2015-03-24 (2015-03-24, 12:19)Koying Wrote: @samburrows What seemed strange on your review is that you pointed out that the GUI was slower than your RPI1B. I don't have any formal benchmarks but there is absolutely no doubt about it for my system. I'm running the same Amber skin, with the some add-ons enabled, the same network setup, same library etc. OpenElec on my RPi1B glided through the menus and other elements of the GUI. OSMC is a little bit laggy when scrolling etc. The programmes and webstreams do seem to load more quickly than on the Pi though. |