(2013-02-23, 19:46)PatrickVogeli Wrote: Hi there,

just a very quick question: am I right that, currently, this addon only scrapes biography info from TheAudioDB??

I know that allmusic stopped working because of copyright issues, but what about last.fm? Has it stopped working too?

EDIT: I forgot, in the addon you can put allmusic as the source to scrape Styles and Moods info, by I don't get those neither. I suppose allmusic is blocking everything?

EDIT 2: ok, got it. Last+fm did some changes in the api, that's because you don't use it anymore. It's depressing to see how much XBMC has improved in 2 years and how the scraper thing has gone downwards because the sites not permiting the scraping anymore.

(2012-11-14, 04:29)aptalca Wrote: Hi olympia,

I have a rather unusual issue. I am trying to add the artist Kitaro to the library. However, the dude is Japanese :-) and his name on MusicBrainz is a couple of Japanese characters. The sort name on MusicBrainz shows it as Kitaro, but the scraper doesn't retrieve anything.

Any ideas??

Thanks

EDIT: I also cannot enter the name manually as I don't have Japanese character input. Even if I did, I wouldn't even know which characters to put in really (other than maybe copy and paste :-)

(2013-03-04, 23:31)aptalca Wrote:

(2012-11-14, 04:29)aptalca Wrote: Hi olympia,

I have a rather unusual issue. I am trying to add the artist Kitaro to the library. However, the dude is Japanese :-) and his name on MusicBrainz is a couple of Japanese characters. The sort name on MusicBrainz shows it as Kitaro, but the scraper doesn't retrieve anything.

Any ideas??

Thanks

EDIT: I also cannot enter the name manually as I don't have Japanese character input. Even if I did, I wouldn't even know which characters to put in really (other than maybe copy and paste :-)

Hi olympia,

I had asked this question a while back, but it got lost in the thread without an answer

I would like to bring it up again since I still don't have a solution for scraping Kitaro. I get a blank fanart, blank poster and no info

Here is the musicbrainz search, you can see that the actual name is japanese characters, but the sort name is "Kitaro": http://musicbrainz.org/search?query=kitaro&type=artist&method=indexed

The search/match score is 100%

Thanks

(2013-03-05, 01:59)capfuturo Wrote: Hi there,

I hope all of you read the following and think seriously about the issue here:

"I have tested dozens of times the situation where, within XBMC library, artists are waiting for their bio and albums info to be scraped by Universal Scraper successfully. It happens ONLY if the artists and its albums appear to be in AudioDB, and not just mentioned but has to actually contain the information you want to be scraped under its listings. What is even worse, and contrary to what's been previously said by someone in this thread: No info is scrapped from MusicBrainz or Allmusic whatsoever. No link to Allmusic, BBC, Disclogs or Wikipedia, appearing as relationships in MusicBrainz or AudioDB, will be addressed by the Universal Scraper to retrieve the data. It is all useless. Only if you add the info manually to AudioDB it will be scraped and retrieved.

Now, this presents a very basic question: if organisations such as BBC (read this please) are scraping e.g., the data related to the artist from Wikepedia, why don't we just make the Universal Scraper pull the info we need from Wikepedia instead? This way we make sure that the info will be mostly reliable and, what is most important, always up to date. If we input the info by ourselves in AudioDB, I assure you that it will be mostly a copy and paste from Wikipedia or BBC or sites that license their info openly and free to anybody who wants to use it. The downside of this is that we then need to keep updating AudioDB database as months go by. Do you see the issue here? Wikipedia is being updated at a daily rate by hundreds of thousands of like-minded individuals, including me, around the world for free and to be shared for free, with the latest verifiable info. We do need a solution such as this to keep our front-end XBMC fed with this kind of updated data regularly.

Could Universal Scraper be configured to provide the option to scrape Wikipedia directly or to follow the links appearing under the listings for the artists or albums in AudioDB or MusicBrainz.

I strongly believe we should all invest time and resources in making XBMC better and better, but I do not share the vision of feeding and maintaining yet another parallel database such as AudioDB, when actually there is much better, complete and intelligently organised work out there, presented as a combination of MusicBrainz, Wikipedia and fanart.tv .

I truly hope my opinions are considered. CF

(2013-03-04, 23:31)aptalca Wrote:

(2012-11-14, 04:29)aptalca Wrote: Hi olympia,

I have a rather unusual issue. I am trying to add the artist Kitaro to the library. However, the dude is Japanese :-) and his name on MusicBrainz is a couple of Japanese characters. The sort name on MusicBrainz shows it as Kitaro, but the scraper doesn't retrieve anything.

Any ideas??

Thanks

EDIT: I also cannot enter the name manually as I don't have Japanese character input. Even if I did, I wouldn't even know which characters to put in really (other than maybe copy and paste :-)

Hi olympia,

I had asked this question a while back, but it got lost in the thread without an answer

I would like to bring it up again since I still don't have a solution for scraping Kitaro. I get a blank fanart, blank poster and no info

Here is the musicbrainz search, you can see that the actual name is japanese characters, but the sort name is "Kitaro": http://musicbrainz.org/search?query=kitaro&type=artist&method=indexed

The search/match score is 100%

Thanks

(2013-03-05, 01:59)capfuturo Wrote: I strongly believe we should all invest time and resources in making XBMC better and better, but I do not share the vision of feeding and maintaining yet another parallel database such as AudioDB, when actually there is much better, complete and intelligently organised work out there, presented as a combination of MusicBrainz, Wikipedia and fanart.tv .

(2013-03-06, 12:14)zag Wrote:

(2013-03-05, 01:59)capfuturo Wrote: I strongly believe we should all invest time and resources in making XBMC better and better, but I do not share the vision of feeding and maintaining yet another parallel database such as AudioDB, when actually there is much better, complete and intelligently organised work out there, presented as a combination of MusicBrainz, Wikipedia and fanart.tv .

Wikipedia is in no way "intelligently organised" Every page is different and very hard to scrape.

I created theaudiodb.com for exactly the reason so we had a standard way of accessing music metadata that would never change, break a scraper or have to be kept updated. All of this as well as being community driven will hopefully mean soon it will be the best stable music resource out there. Just like TMDB and TheTVDB have been for the last 5+ years.

(2013-03-05, 01:59)capfuturo Wrote: Good evening Zag,

I understand your point. I would like to ask you: regardless of its degree of difficulty, is there a way to automatically have at least the bios of the artists and descriptions of the albums updated in AudioDB by linking them to the Wikipedia pages that are being updated daily with the info we are after? What I am trying to get to here, is avoiding the copy/paste manual process or having to post my own writings/findings for a particular artist or work of art, not just on one website but on both, Wikipedia and AudioDB. Can we make the link to Wikipedia a more "useful link" which means a link that the AudioDB could feed from, just as BBC or MusicBrainz do?

I too understand your concerns about "what if the links break", for instance. However, wouldn't be easier for any of us to just relink when we find a broken page than manually updating the pages on AudioDB every time there are news with respect to an artist or a music release?

(2013-03-05, 01:59)capfuturo Wrote: Tackling another matter, I notice there is a section in AudioDB that lists the upcoming shows for the artist. How can I get this data to show up in my XBMC and possibly follow its links and buy tickets for shows? Is this implemented yet?

Best, CF

(2013-03-07, 23:39)capfuturo Wrote: I understand your point. I would like to ask you: regardless of its degree of difficulty, is there a way to automatically have at least the bios of the artists and descriptions of the albums updated in AudioDB by linking them to the Wikipedia pages that are being updated daily with the info we are after? What I am trying to get to here, is avoiding the copy/paste manual process or having to post my own writings/findings for a particular artist or work of art, not just on one website but on both, Wikipedia and AudioDB. Can we make the link to Wikipedia a more "useful link" which means a link that the AudioDB could feed from, just as BBC or MusicBrainz do?