START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Dec 2020) - Printable Version +- Kodi Community Forum (https://forum.kodi.tv) +-- Forum: Discussions (https://forum.kodi.tv/forumdisplay.php?fid=222) +--- Forum: Hardware (https://forum.kodi.tv/forumdisplay.php?fid=112) +--- Thread: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Dec 2020) (/showthread.php?tid=252916) Pages:
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RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - kraniet - 2018-12-29 (2018-12-29, 12:43)noggin Wrote:Ok, thank you for the info.(2018-12-29, 00:16)kraniet Wrote: The COOD-E TV 4K is in the same price range as the vero 4K+ but seem to have better hardware?The Vero 4K+ developer is @Sam.Nazarko and he is a regular poster here and at the OSMC forums. He is highly engaged with his end users and you can talk to him. OSMC, the OS that the Vero 4K+ runs Kodi on, and the bundled Kodi are updated regularly by Sam. I wasnt trying to offend anyone. But I guess the Vero has the same problem with not having widevine support? After alls this hassle with streamers (netflix, hbo etc) Im starting to think if they should get my support. HBO for one havent even bothered to make an app for xbox one s (!?!) and Netflix are hardware locking their app. Like the support for atmos only being supported in windows, apple tv and some sony tvs.. Not to speak of the 4K function.. Not to talk about xbox lack of audio switching and throughput support.. Some "complete media player solution".. RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - Rubytux - 2018-12-29 (2018-12-28, 18:16)mutantmike Wrote:(2018-12-28, 06:08)wrxtasy Wrote:(2018-12-28, 04:15)YoJoe Wrote: Just got an Xbox X, it’s stellar for x.265 video but need Kodi for my ISO blu-Ray rip files. You dont need an Android TV Google Certified device to do what you need. Actually, the S905X will be slower in Kodi under Android TV vs Libre Elec. I used the Khadas Vim 1 Pro, i got it with the open case, USB Type C Cable and Khadas remote for $54 on eBay. Just install Libre Elec and it will work. You can also go cheaper by going to the 1GB Le Potato, it is $35 + accesories. If you need Netflix 4K HDR, you can go with the Fire TV Stick 4K and sideload Kodi + accesories(Gigabit Ethernet USB Hub and OTG Cable). RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - wrxtasy - 2018-12-29 (2018-12-29, 14:33)kraniet Wrote: Not to talk about xbox lack of audio switching and throughput support.. Some "complete media player solution".. No one ever said the XBox running what in reality is a development version of Kodi Leia - is a complete solution. It never makes any of my lists simply because of it's ongoing developmental, inherently unstable status. And from Post #1 of this thread if Netflix is important: 1080p/4K Netflix and Amazon Video streaming Q. I need a Kodi box that can play 1080p or 4K DRM copy protected video streams such as Netflix, Amazon Video etc. ? Important NOTE: Unless you have a HDMI connected Dolby Digital Plus Audio receiver, expect 2.0 Audio only from DD+ copy protected streaming Apps running on ALL - Android TV platforms like the Shield, Mi Box and Jetstream 4k Ultra HD. If you have older Dolby Digital 5.1 only capable audio receiver hardware, only specific hardware platforms such as the Apple TV's, and Amazon Fire TV's can do Netflix / Amazon / VUDU / iTunes - DD+ 5.1 to DD/AC3 5.1 audio downmixing to support DD only audio receivers. The Apple TV's also do DD+ > multichannel LPCM decoding to support older HDMI connected AVR's. The Apple TV 4/4K can also do Netflix App - auto Frame Rate Matching (click) - the only media player that can do so. Results are superb ! Only very specific devices, noted below can run the Amazon Prime Video App properly. Viewing Paid for movies on numerous hardware platforms is now possible with Movies Anywhere (click) 1080p/4K Android Netflix / Amazon (Prime) Video is only possible on media players boxes that include Widevine L1 & HDCP 1.x/2.2 support in device Firmware. Prime Video also needs Microsoft Playready DRM.
IMHO the Apple TV 4K is the Apps media player of choice, particularly for users outside the USA that also need 25/50fps auto Frame Rate matching support. It is the go to Netflix media player for smooth 24p Netflix (DolbyVision) video playback with lossy Atmos audio. There simply is no "one complete box" media player solution if you also want near bug free Kodi with auto refresh/colorspace/resolution switching & copy protected video streaming Apps support. W. RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - noggin - 2018-12-29 (2018-12-29, 14:33)kraniet Wrote:(2018-12-29, 12:43)noggin Wrote:Ok, thank you for the info.(2018-12-29, 00:16)kraniet Wrote: The COOD-E TV 4K is in the same price range as the vero 4K+ but seem to have better hardware?The Vero 4K+ developer is @Sam.Nazarko and he is a regular poster here and at the OSMC forums. He is highly engaged with his end users and you can talk to him. OSMC, the OS that the Vero 4K+ runs Kodi on, and the bundled Kodi are updated regularly by Sam. As ever, I'd recommend you separate your DRM requirements from your Kodi requirements. Often the best platforms for DRM services (Netflix, Amazon, HBO, C More, Viaplay etc.) are not the best platforms for Kodi, and vice versa. I'd also recommend LibreElec over Android on ARM platforms for pure Kodi support. RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - JoePeters - 2019-01-03 Quote:@wrxtasy: IMHO the Apple TV 4K is the Apps media player of choice, particularly for users outside the USA that also need 25/50fps auto Frame Rate matching support. It is the go to Netflix media player for smooth 24p Netflix (DolbyVision) video playback with lossy Atmos audio.Currently, gearbest offers a Beelink Gemini N41 6 GB RAM 128 GB SSD including Windows 10 Home for less than 180,00 EUR. I gathered very good experiences with a more costly Intel NUC 5i5RYH plus pulseEight CEC USB-Adapter as an excellent All-in-One Box, for several years. If I would start again, I would simply buy such a Beelink mini pc, install Windows 10 Pro as a basis and on top Kodi (17.6 or 18). Overall it will be more valuable, flexible and open than an Apple or NVidia Shield TV. That’s my opinion. As a TV server a USB Box (with CI and triple tuner & CAM) could come into consideration, which would be connected directly to the mini pc, or - seperately - an Enigma2 TV Receiver (with openATV). Best regards, Joe RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - ozkhan1 - 2019-01-03 If HDR support is not a requirement a wintel solution is good. From what i have read gerting HDR to work properly on WINTEL is a PITA! RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - JoePeters - 2019-01-03 Since Windows 10 1809 (Fall Creators Update 2018) it shouldn‘t be an issue anymore: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4040263/windows-10-hdr-advanced-color-settings UPDATE: If, and only if the Intel processor or SoC supports HDR, which might be still an issue with the very popular Gemini Lake Celeron processor N4100 - see https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=325334&pid=2804855#pid2804855 The question still remains the same: how important will be HDR within the next 3 years, as long as I don‘t have the right equipment such as a HDR 10+ TV or monitor and cables for example, plus appropriate movies or VOD streaming content? ;-) RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - nsnhd - 2019-01-04 I prefer HDR over 4K, HDR to SDR (madVR) has made fantastic picture improvements on Non-HDR displays. RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - noggin - 2019-01-04 (2019-01-03, 09:12)JoePeters Wrote: Since Windows 10 1809 (Fall Creators Update 2018) it shouldn‘t be an issue anymore: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4040263/windows-10-hdr-advanced-color-settings If you don't have a UHD HDR display - then full HDR support is a non-issue. If you have a UHD SDR display then you MAY want to watch UHD HDR content tone-mapped to UHD SDR, so a system capable of that would make sense if you plan on keeping that display for a while. If you are HD only and plan to stay that way, then I'd probably ignore HDR issues for the moment. RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - Verdana - 2019-01-05 I am having problems running HDR 10bit on a windows 10 / kodi setup. I am getting washed up colours. Is this fixable ? What powerful kodi box will provide this hassle free ? thanks RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - noggin - 2019-01-05 (2019-01-05, 12:12)Verdana Wrote: I am having problems running HDR 10bit on a windows 10 / kodi setup. I am getting washed up colours. Is this fixable ? What powerful kodi box will provide this hassle free ? You don't need a particularly powerful box to handle HDR these days (For some reason Intel treats HDR as 'high end' still - reserving HDR for Core-series CPU+GPUs, even though cheap ARM SoCs can handle it). The first post in this thread is a good starting point for advice. Before you ditch your Windows box - which CPU are you running and how are you connecting your display to it? RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - Verdana - 2019-01-05 (2019-01-05, 13:39)noggin Wrote:thank you for your reply.(2019-01-05, 12:12)Verdana Wrote: I am having problems running HDR 10bit on a windows 10 / kodi setup. I am getting washed up colours. Is this fixable ? What powerful kodi box will provide this hassle free ? I have a i7, 1070 gtx to TV 4k OLED with HDMI. RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - noggin - 2019-01-05 (2019-01-05, 13:43)Verdana Wrote:Is that a desktop or a laptop?(2019-01-05, 13:39)noggin Wrote:thank you for your reply.(2019-01-05, 12:12)Verdana Wrote: I am having problems running HDR 10bit on a windows 10 / kodi setup. I am getting washed up colours. Is this fixable ? What powerful kodi box will provide this hassle free ? RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - Verdana - 2019-01-05 (2019-01-05, 13:44)noggin Wrote:Desktop, but does it matter ?(2019-01-05, 13:43)Verdana Wrote:Is that a desktop or a laptop?(2019-01-05, 13:39)noggin Wrote: You don't need a particularly powerful box to handle HDR these days (For some reason Intel treats HDR as 'high end' still - reserving HDR for Core-series CPU+GPUs, even though cheap ARM SoCs can handle it). The first post in this thread is a good starting point for advice.thank you for your reply. RE: START HERE - Pick the Right Kodi Box (updated Nov. 2018) - noggin - 2019-01-05 (2019-01-05, 16:44)Verdana Wrote:(2019-01-05, 13:44)noggin Wrote:Desktop, but does it matter ?(2019-01-05, 13:43)Verdana Wrote: thank you for your reply.Is that a desktop or a laptop? Yes - as laptops often have one video output and it's often HDMI 1.4, whereas Desktops often have DisplayPort and HDMI 1.4 and HDMI 2.0. Does your Windows desktop not drive your display in UHD or does it just not output HDR? Have you installed the latest Windows 10 updates? Do you see the HDR option? Or are you able to get Windows to run in HDR, but just having issues with Kodi? |