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RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - blossom24 - 2017-03-01
Is the KODI team attending this?
https://torrentfreak.com/kodi-box-consultation-launched-by-intellectual-property-office-170228/
RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - Koying - 2017-03-01
This is about "illicit streaming devices", i.e. fully-loaded boxes. We are not a concerned party, really, besides the fact that we hate them because they are trashing our brand.
Anyway, dealing with local government rules is quite pointless.
As we all know, laws are driven by lobbies, so It's the right holders that matter...
RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - speedwell68 - 2017-03-01
From my local rag. Just about the usual standard...
http://www.cornwalllive.com/police-and-cornwall-trading-standards-ready-to-crack-down-on-kodi-boxes/story-30166378-detail/story.html
RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - natethomas - 2017-03-01
I have mixed opinions about all these articles showing the Kodi Pi case when they're talking about these streaming boxes. On the one hand, it seems like pretty great marketing for our pi cases! But on the other hand, it's virtually guaranteed that none of the people selling these boxes are using Pis and our cool Pi box to do it.
RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - speedwell68 - 2017-03-02
(2017-03-01, 21:53)natethomas Wrote: I have mixed opinions about all these articles showing the Kodi Pi case when they're talking about these streaming boxes. On the one hand, it seems like pretty great marketing for our pi cases! But on the other hand, it's virtually guaranteed that none of the people selling these boxes are using Pis and our cool Pi box to do it.
The first thing I said to the wife, she pointed the article out to me, was "That is a Raspberry Pi and not a 'Piracy Box'. I was going to leave a comment on that article, but for reasons beyond my control it won't let me create an account.
RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - blossom24 - 2017-03-06
Pirate streams with Kodi- Legal in UK
https://torrentfreak.com/streaming-pirate-content-isnt-illegal-uk-trading-standards-says-170306/
RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - Mnementh - 2017-03-06
"Believed" to be legal in the UK, by one councils Trading Standards Spokesperson, hardly legally binding.
Until there's a test case so there's a precedent no one knows which way the law will come down.
RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - speedwell68 - 2017-03-06
(2017-03-06, 12:09)blossom24 Wrote: Pirate streams with Kodi- Legal in UK
https://torrentfreak.com/streaming-pirate-content-isnt-illegal-uk-trading-standards-says-170306/
That article doesn't actually say they are legal.
RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - docwra - 2017-03-06
Millionaire who sold Kodi boxes to pubs for £1,000 so they could illegally screen Premier League football slapped with £250,000 bill
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3023901/kodi-box-man-convicted-pubs-premier-league-football-illegal/
RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - PatK - 2017-03-07
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-39184505
Off the bench, not longer a test.
RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - S80_UK - 2017-03-07
Excellent. A few more hit hard would only be a good thing in my view.
RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - TheGame1986 - 2017-03-07
(2017-03-07, 02:47)PatK Wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-39184505
Off the bench, not longer a test.
I wouldn't call this a test case in regards to selling boxes with 'fully loaded' content on it. This guy was prosecuted for selling subscription TV, something which has been illegal since the 1990's here in the UK. People have been being fined and going to prison for this stuff for almost three decades. They weren't tried for stuff like movies/tv shows, just the selling of subscription TV. Similar case happened in 2011, except they got a much harsher punishment: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/three-men-jailed-over-set-top-box-fraud-2316116.html
EDIT: Because in some countries streaming is seen as a grey area, with no solid basis in it being either legal/illegal, they think the same about obtaining subscription television, but that isn't true (at least here in the UK). It is illegal to distribute or obtain subscription TV without paying the rights holders (ie Sky, Virgin, BT). It doesn't matter how you obtain those subscription channels - via card sharing, a rigged set top box, or a dodgy IPTV system. If you are watching those subscription TV channels without paying the cable/satellite company, you are breaking the UK law and can be faced with a fine or prison sentence - even if you're just obtaining the content and not distributing it. It's a black and white law, no grey area to be found.
EDIT 2 (for clarity): I mean not a test case for those sellers who may not sell with dodgy IPTV stuff on their set ups, although I'm aware that most do.
RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - natethomas - 2017-03-07
(2017-03-07, 15:26)RayW1986 Wrote:(2017-03-07, 02:47)PatK Wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-39184505
Off the bench, not longer a test.
I wouldn't call this a test case in regards to selling boxes with 'fully loaded' content on it. This guy was prosecuted for selling subscription TV, something which has been illegal since the 1990's here in the UK. People have been being fined and going to prison for this stuff for almost three decades. They weren't tried for stuff like movies/tv shows, just the selling of subscription TV. Similar case happened in 2011, except they got a much harsher punishment: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/three-men-jailed-over-set-top-box-fraud-2316116.html
EDIT: Because in some countries streaming is seen as a grey area, with no solid basis in it being either legal/illegal, they think the same about obtaining subscription television, but that isn't true (at least here in the UK). It is illegal to distribute or obtain subscription TV without paying the rights holders (ie Sky, Virgin, BT). It doesn't matter how you obtain those subscription channels - via card sharing, a rigged set top box, or a dodgy IPTV system. If you are watching those subscription TV channels without paying the cable/satellite company, you are breaking the UK law and can be faced with a fine or prison sentence - even if you're just obtaining the content and not distributing it. It's a black and white law, no grey area to be found.
EDIT 2 (for clarity): I mean not a test case for those sellers who may not sell with dodgy IPTV stuff on their set ups, although I'm aware that most do.
I agree. As a further note, I'm not sure how it works in the UK, but this sounds like the US version of a plea deal, where the person agrees to punishment in exchange for a reduced sentence. Such deals rarely have any power to predict or determine future lawsuits on the same subject.
RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - nickr - 2017-03-08
The guilty plea could be a result of accepting he has done wrong and not going through a fruitless trial.
Or it could be the result of a 'plea deal' where the prosecutor agreed to limit the charges and punishment (note the prison sentence was suspended).
Hard to tell from the article.
RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - trogggy - 2017-03-08
(2017-03-08, 00:18)nickr Wrote: The guilty plea could be a result of accepting he has done wrong and not going through a fruitless trial.Not in the uk. Charges yes, sentencing no.
Or it could be the result of a 'plea deal' where the prosecutor agreed to limit the charges and punishment (note the prison sentence was suspended).
Hard to tell from the article.
Normally there would be a reduction for an early guilty plea, but there's no sentencing 'deal' available.