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RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - deadite66 - 2017-04-10

If we had DRM support would it only work on x86/x64 kodi?

could you compile your own version for an arm board and have DRM work without a necessary binary blob.


RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - natethomas - 2017-04-10

(2017-04-10, 18:02)GeneralFailure Wrote: what encrypted streams nobody watches encrypted streams though kodi

Uh, right. That's because you literally can't today. That's like the whole point of this discussion, being capable of watching encrypted streams as well as all the currently unencrypted stuff.


RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - natethomas - 2017-04-10

(2017-04-10, 18:09)deadite66 Wrote: If we had DRM support would it only work on x86/x64 kodi?

could you compile your own version for an arm board and have DRM work without a necessary binary blob.

Sadly, it's not possible to do this without a binary blob. Also, we're pretty sure Kodi can't distribute this blob while remaining GPL compliant, so we can't give it to you (though that's still under discussion). So it's only available on platforms that have the blob compiled that users can install themselves. Fortunately, that's pretty much every platform. It's pre-installed in Android, you can get it by simply installing Chrome on x86 platforms, and it is at least compiled on the other ARM platforms, though I'm not sure what the best way is to actually get it onto those platforms.


RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - da-anda - 2017-04-10

please note that Kodi won't do DRM, we only add infrastructure to be able to use of the DRM mechanisms available by the OS. We're not in favor of DRM, but as we can't convince content providers to get rid of it, it's unfortunately a necessity to support in case you would like to get any legitimate content these days.


RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - nickr - 2017-04-10

Quote:I am really tired of reading the 'we don't support piracy' speil the reality is thats what KODI is used for more then anything despite intentions otherwise. and its not something you are going to prevent OR have any say in no matter what you do. go ahead implement drm somebody will fork it strip the drm out and continue on there merry way OR worse it will simply kill the the project from the amount of backlash you would get
@GeneralFailure you seem you assume we give a fig about how many users Kodi has. We don't. All the asshats using kodi for piracy could disappear in a puff of smoke, and we wouldn't miss them. We don't make money from kodi, we are not competing in a market.
Quote:you are will contiune making the mistake of fighting a war you can't possibly win.
Well I wouldn't say we have won the war, but the position now being taken by Amazon is certainly one battle up in our favour.


RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - Dangelus - 2017-04-10

(2017-04-10, 21:58)nickr Wrote:
Quote:I am really tired of reading the 'we don't support piracy' speil the reality is thats what KODI is used for more then anything despite intentions otherwise. and its not something you are going to prevent OR have any say in no matter what you do. go ahead implement drm somebody will fork it strip the drm out and continue on there merry way OR worse it will simply kill the the project from the amount of backlash you would get
@GeneralFailure you seem you assume we give a fig about how many users Kodi has. We don't. All the asshats using kodi for piracy could disappear in a puff of smoke, and we wouldn't miss them. We don't make money from kodi, we are not competing in a market.
Quote:you are will contiune making the mistake of fighting a war you can't possibly win.
Well I wouldn't say we have won the war, but the position now being taken by Amazon is certainly one battle up in our favour.

The fact that you believe that Kodi would be forked with the intention of "stripping out" whatever DRM we decide to implement shows that you have an inherent misunderstanding of why the DRM implementation was there in the first place.

Enabling DRM will allow certain content providers onto our platform. It does not prevent non-DRM content / add-ons from being consumed, yes, even the nefarious pirated content.

It's a win win situation. The only objections should be from free software "purists" who don't like the idea of proprietary blobs anywhere near free software.


RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - streetmedic - 2017-04-11

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/kodi-box-amazon-uk-ban-media-player-piracy-live-football-stream-download-tv-shows-films-a7676426.html

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Amazon has announced a crackdown on media players that enable consumers to illegally access pirated content.

The firm has warned sellers that their accounts face termination if they’re found to be selling “certain” prohibited streaming media players.

“Products offered for sale on Amazon should not promote, suggest the facilitation of, or actively enable the infringement of or unauthorized access to digital media or other protected content,” reads the company’s warning.


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The company also refused to tell The Independent which products are on the list.

“If you sell these products, we may immediately suspend or terminate your selling privileges and destroy inventory in our fulfillment centers without reimbursement,” the announcement continues.

The update has been widely interpreted as a ban on so-called “fully loaded Kodi boxes”.

The open-source software enables users to illegally stream copyrighted content, such as TV shows, films and live sports, using a variety of free third-party add-ons.


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Earlier this year, the Premier League obtained an injunction enabling it to work hand-in-hand with UK internet service providers to block illegal streams fed to Internet Protocol TV (IPTV) boxes running Kodi, in real time.

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RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - Miss_80 - 2017-04-11

(2017-04-10, 17:14)Martijn Wrote:
(2017-04-10, 15:14)jmh2002 Wrote:
(2017-04-10, 10:47)Martijn Wrote: Point has been proven again how much total retards that are out there that have zero clue what they are talking about Smile

Why comment when I can just +1 this instead Smile

It seems the world has shifted and a miracle has happened. At least in one part of the world.

https://tweakers.net/nieuws/123355/kodi-overweegt-ondersteuning-voor-drm-om-meer-legale-inhoud-aan-te-bieden.html

Nearly zero negative comments and most would applaud some way of combining several subscriptions under one (Kodi) roof no matter if DRM is involved.

We dutch people ain't all that bad Wink


RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - RockerC - 2017-04-11

Netflix streaming playback without breaking DRM is a great example of what having support for OS underlying DRM could add to Kodi, as reported here:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Kodi-Better-Netflix-Support
https://liliputing.com/2017/03/plugin-brings-netflix-to-kodi-media-center-unofficially-but-without-breaking-drm.html

You would still be able to play all your existing offline/streaming conteant and still possibly get legal access to premium subscription services. That is, we who pay for Netflix, HBO, Amazon Prime Video, etc. will get the possibilty of legally accessing streams from those services inside Kodi. All the while Kodi will act no different att all for users accessing content in whatever other ways they do today.

It's like adding a towbar to your car; you will not really notice it unless you hook up a carriage that you want to pull, and you as a user of the car don't have to use the towbar unless you actually want to pull a carriage, that is optional. Only downsides to adding a towbar to a car is that it will maybe make your car look less 'sporty' to some who currently don't care at all about the cars capability of pulling a carriage as they right now think/know that they will never ever buy a carriage.


RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - blossom24 - 2017-04-12

Nagra Targets Pirate Kodi Streaming Addons and IPTV


https://torrentfreak.com/nagra-targets-pirate-kodi-streaming-addons-and-iptv-170411/


RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - shomari - 2017-04-12

(2017-04-10, 21:58)nickr Wrote: Well I wouldn't say we have won the war, but the position now being taken by Amazon is certainly one battle up in our favour.


Exactly.

... and how the Kodi maintainers deal with the never ending torrent of brash entitlement daily on these forums is beyond me.

There's nothing wrong at all with Kodi having a modular DRM capability. And all the 'Kodi box' users need not worry, something or another in your firmware will likely be broken anyway, you'll never see it come to fruition. Rest easy.


RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - PatK - 2017-04-12

Some unadulterated comments over on Slashdot, re: DRM on Kodi

https://yro.slashdot.org/story/17/04/11/1911215/the-kodi-development-team-wants-to-be-legitimate-and-bring-drm-to-the-platform


RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - Tinwarble - 2017-04-12

Have you ever had one of those days where you just wanted to bang your head repeatedly on your desk just to get all the idiotic things you've read out of your brain?


RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - natethomas - 2017-04-12

It's fun watching the telephone game in action. We're now working with rights holders to implement drm? I had no idea!


RE: Kodi/XBMC in the media? Post links here - Martijn - 2017-04-12

(2017-04-12, 17:15)natethomas Wrote: It's fun watching the telephone game in action. We're now working with rights holders to implement drm? I had no idea!
Didn't I mention that? Guess I totally forgot we already have big studio and content provider deal waiting...


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