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A10-5700 Mini ITX Build! Medium Gaming Graphics! - Joe K - 2012-11-08 The following is a quiet, compact entertainment computer. It allows for moderate gaming and will take care of any XBMC need you have, from pictures and music to 3D videos and surround sound. GOAL:
The main idea behind this setup is to allow me to play Skyrim (or similarly demanding game) at 720p on at least HIGH settings with a low profile machine. Click here for proof that playable FPS is possible with the integrated graphics. I understand this will not have the best graphics imaginable, but this is meant to be compact and quiet. You can take this computer with you quite easily if you travel, or just play video games in your living without lugging our your monster of a gaming machine from your office. CURRENT GAMING ABILITIES: PC
Runs great! Obviously there is lots of tweaking to be done to get it looking just right, but it looks better than it did on my old PS2! Dolphin Emulator Runs great, looks better than my actual Wii! I decided to just splice a USB cable into a sensor bar ($6 for the bar and I had a cable laying around). Now I don't have to worry about batteries any more!
SPECS: [APU] $127 A10-5700, 65W [COOLER] $36 Scythe Kozuti [CASE FANS]$24 2 x Noctua 80mm Case Fans
[PASTE] $11 PK-1 Thermal Paste
Total: $533 + ~$35 PSU (exact pricing still up in the air for PSU upgrade) + shipping (if any) All prices are not including any coupons, combo deals, or substitutions. IMPORTANT INFO FOR THIS BUILD, PLEASE READ This motherboard CANNOT undervolt, but with the fans and heatsink I suggested you will keep everything quite cool.
I used CoreTemp to monitor my core temps. Newer AMD processors will give you the TCTL readings, which will show ambient temp as 0C. DON’T FREAK OUT, THIS IS OKAY. They set up a scale for the temps so they can customize them for each processor. All you need to know is the max operating temp is 70C (based on TCTL, NOT actual temps), and you should stay at least 20C below that. Shoot for 50C at most, my build is currently running between 35-40C according to CoreTemp while running Prime95. The following explains it a LOT better: http://www.overclock.net/t/1330946/amd-temperature-guide The Kozuti heatsink was VERY difficult to install. I had to have my wife help me by holding the board while I mounted everything. USEFUL LINKS: Low Profile Heatsink Rankings A10-5700 Review (Various Benchmarks, Game FPS Comparison, Power Consumption, Overclock Capabilities) SIMILAR BUILDS: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=144728&pid=1265368#pid1265368 PICS: (They're a little big, I may try to downsize them a tad later) (Also as uploading these I noticed I had the flash on my phone on, oops) QUESTIONS DURING THE BUILD:
ANSWERED QUESTIONS - THANKS!
RE: A10-5800K Mini ITX Case, Med Gaming Graphics? - RaggSokk3n - 2012-11-08 The psu should be good enought. Not sure the case can handle 100w tdp, but i would thake that risk and go for it RE: A10-5800K Mini ITX Case, Med Gaming Graphics? - eskro - 2012-11-08 your PSU is determined by the weakest link. in your case, you need to think like u have an 160W psu. not 192W. becareful on your ram there, the A10-5800K supports only up to DDR3 1866.... http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Modules-1866MHz-KHX1866C11D3P1K2-4G/dp/B0057Q4A7G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326211132&sr=8-1 RE: A10-5800K Mini ITX Case, Med Gaming Graphics? - Beer40oz - 2012-11-08 A10-5800K FTW! .... I been reading on it and it is a great little chip. The Antec 300-150 case might just work.... heat will be the issue. It comes with that one 80MM fan on the case but a second can be adapted to the bracket because it does have the holes for another..... so it may require two fan to blow the heat out..... Do some testing... If not look into the Silverstone Sugo SG05 or SG06 series... they have a little more room and come with a nice PSU already... may be great with the A10-5800K infact I was thinking of the A10-5800K to test it out and have fun with it in a Sugo case... Even also the Thermaltake Q case will work.... its cheaper.... also one of my favorites. You just need to add a 120mm FAN to the side inside... it fits like a glove. RE: A10-5800K Mini ITX Case, Med Gaming Graphics? - bladeds - 2012-11-08 http://www.game-debate.com/ if sign up input your pc details. Then find the games you wanna play, it will tell you what settings it can handle. RE: A10-5800K Mini ITX Case, Med Gaming Graphics? - tazz0710 - 2012-11-08 I cant tell for sure in the pictures on newegg it appears that i can use a OD with the Sugo05 or 06 correct? I want to have blueray and i have been eyeing the A10-5800k myself also could i go with this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147163 in stead of the 64gb. It is the WW not the AM so not sure if that's a big difference or not. Thanks. RE: A10-5800K Mini ITX Case, Med Gaming Graphics? - Dougie Fresh - 2012-11-08 (2012-11-08, 06:56)Joe K Wrote: [*]The PicoPSU Adapter is rated for 192W, but the picoPSU-160-XT portion of it is rated at 160W. I know no PSU is 100% efficient (this one says it is 96%), but doesn't this mean I would only get 160W max to my computer? This is a bit of a marketing trick. The picoPSU is only doing DC-DC conversion (12V to 5V, 12V, 3.3V, etc.) which is a fairly efficient process unlike AC-DC. The efficiency quoted in other PSUs is for the AC-DC and DC-DC process. The AC-DC conversion process is less efficient. With a picoPSU that's happening in the AC adapter so they don't quote it. There's some other scale for rating AC adapters using letters or roman numerals (see: http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/prod_development/revisions/downloads/International_Efficiency_Marking_Protocol.pdf) but not every manufacturer adheres to the standard or cares about Energy Star, a US program. Given the low wattage, they tend to be fairly efficient anyways but who knows how efficient the typical ones from China you find on Amazon, eBay or bundled with picoPSUs really are. For running at maximum look at the 160-XT documentation about peak usage and limitations there around ventilation and how long to run at peak. Also pay attention to how many amps on each rail. RE: A10-5800K Mini ITX Case, Med Gaming Graphics? - bluray - 2012-11-08 (2012-11-08, 06:56)Joe K Wrote: [APU] $130 A10-5800K, 100WThe powerful 100w A10-5800K will be tossed in that case.....why not the 65w "AMD A8-5500 Trinity 3.2GHz or AMD A10-5700 Trinity 3.4GHz" instead? It should be able to handle everything the A10-5800K can..... RE: A10-5800K Mini ITX Case, Med Gaming Graphics? - Dougie Fresh - 2012-11-08 (2012-11-08, 19:39)bluray Wrote:(2012-11-08, 06:56)Joe K Wrote: [APU] $130 A10-5800K, 100WThe powerful 100w A10-5800K will be tossed in that case.....why not the 65w "AMD A8-5500 Trinity 3.2GHz or AMD A10-5700 Trinity 3.4GHz" instead? It should be able to handle everything the A10-5800K can..... +1. And, if they are anything like the A8-3800, you can use a 120W picoPSU. The A8-3800 I tested yesterday maxed out at 96W with all four cores at 100%. It also ran cool in an E-i5 mini-ITX case with the NT07-AM2 CPU cooler (surprisingly, cooler than the A6-3500). [Edit] You cannot use a 120W PSU with the A10-5700. You need 150W. RE: A10-5800K Mini ITX Case, Med Gaming Graphics? - Joe K - 2012-11-09 (2012-11-08, 09:11)eskro Wrote: your PSU is determined by the weakest link. in your case, From what I've researched, although it only supports up to DDR3 1866 it still benefits from higher clocked RAM: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/57166-amd-trinity-a10-5800k-apu-review-25.html (2012-11-08, 13:10)Beer40oz Wrote: A10-5800K FTW! .... I been reading on it and it is a great little chip. I'm trying to keep as small of a case as possible to make it more portable. I'm toying with the idea of just tossing several 80mm fans in to keep the air flow going. (2012-11-08, 17:18)Dougie Fresh Wrote:(2012-11-08, 06:56)Joe K Wrote: [*]The PicoPSU Adapter is rated for 192W, but the picoPSU-160-XT portion of it is rated at 160W. I know no PSU is 100% efficient (this one says it is 96%), but doesn't this mean I would only get 160W max to my computer? Thank you, that makes more sense now. (2012-11-08, 19:39)bluray Wrote:(2012-11-08, 06:56)Joe K Wrote: [APU] $130 A10-5800K, 100WThe powerful 100w A10-5800K will be tossed in that case.....why not the 65w "AMD A8-5500 Trinity 3.2GHz or AMD A10-5700 Trinity 3.4GHz" instead? It should be able to handle everything the A10-5800K can..... I know the A10-5700 would do the trick, I am just a little power hungry wanting the A10-5800K. Unfortunately 100W processor would likely require a lot of noisy fans to keep it cool. I may need to change to the 65W A10-5700... RE: A10-5800K Mini ITX Case, Med Gaming Graphics? - eskro - 2012-11-09 (2012-11-09, 04:29)Joe K Wrote: From what I've researched, although it only supports up to DDR3 1866 it still benefits from higher clocked RAM: well, at the end, they say --> In our opinion the best route for Trinity users is to buy a good kit of 1866MHz memory and overclock it as needed. RE: A10-5800K Mini ITX Case, Med Gaming Graphics? - Dougie Fresh - 2012-11-09 +1 on 1866Mhz. RE: A10-5800K Mini ITX Case, Med Gaming Graphics? - Beer40oz - 2012-11-09 (2012-11-09, 05:53)eskro Wrote:(2012-11-09, 04:29)Joe K Wrote: From what I've researched, although it only supports up to DDR3 1866 it still benefits from higher clocked RAM: Everyone knows you need 1866... RE: A10-5800K Mini ITX Case, Med Gaming Graphics? - Joe K - 2012-11-09 True, you can get 1866 and overclock from there. Would it make any difference to buy 2133 and underclock to 1866 if you wanted? RE: A10-5800K Mini ITX Case, Med Gaming Graphics? - bluray - 2012-11-09 (2012-11-09, 16:35)Joe K Wrote: True, you can get 1866 and overclock from there. Would it make any difference to buy 2133 and underclock to 1866 if you wanted?That is what this guy did at AnandTech- AMD's Trinity : An HTPC Perspective.....since it is designed to handle 2.133GHz, for sure it will run cooler when underclock to 1.866GHz... |