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looking for a second system solution - rtate - 2012-11-27
I have a very good htpc for my home theater and I'm looking for a second system solution.
I want to get either an ATV or Pivos but have read good and bad about both.
My needs are fairly simple, I want to run XBMC/Navi to watch movies and tv shows on a wired connection.
I want it to play 1080p without buffering or studdering and be easy to navigate for the wife.
If you were going to buy, which would it be and why ?
ATV/ATV2 or Pivos w/ linux
RE: looking for a second system solution - fvtalon - 2012-11-27
I have an ATV2, running confluence it works really quite well up to 720p. 1080p it's not designed to do from stock and it really struggles with in XBMC. Pivos would be my choice based on being newer/more powerful and also available for $80-$100 vs ~$200 that the ATV2 commands currently in the used market. That said the Pivos isn't without problems either, but it sounds like it runs pretty good on a linux port.
With a little more budget I'd be inclined to build a mITX HTPC in a nice small case and running a G5xx or G6xx intel chip and OpenElec. $350 maybe with IR and remote, but also very capable.
RE: looking for a second system solution - Dougie Fresh - 2012-11-27
How about this barebones system for $239 + shipping? You just need to add your OpenELEC USB stick to it.
CPU: Intel Celeron 847 Dual-Core Processor (1.1 GHz)
Video: Intel 2000 HD Graphics w/ Max Shared Memory of 1759MB; Supports DX10.1; Supports HDCP
Chipset: Intel NM70
Memory: 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1333
SATA: 1x SATA3 Ports, 3x SATA2 Ports
Audio: Realtek ALC662 6-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC
LAN: Realtek RTL8111F 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Ports: 8x USB 2.0 Ports (4 rear, 4 via headers), 1x PS/2 Keyboard Port, 1x PS/2 Mouse Port, 1x VGA Port, 1x HDMI Port, 1x RJ45 LAN Port, Audio I/O Jacks
Case: Realan E-i3 brushed aluminum case (silver or black) 200*60*236 mm (W*H*D)
PSU: 120W internal DC power board with 60W external AC adapter
RE: looking for a second system solution - rtate - 2012-11-27
thanks guys, those are both interesting options that I guess I need to explore a little more....
RE: looking for a second system solution - PobjoySpecial - 2012-11-28
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RE: looking for a second system solution - mprassel - 2012-11-28
(2012-11-27, 21:37)Dougie Fresh Wrote: How about this barebones system for $239 + shipping? You just need to add your OpenELEC USB stick to it.
CPU: Intel Celeron 847 Dual-Core Processor (1.1 GHz)
Video: Intel 2000 HD Graphics w/ Max Shared Memory of 1759MB; Supports DX10.1; Supports HDCP
Chipset: Intel NM70
Memory: 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1333
SATA: 1x SATA3 Ports, 3x SATA2 Ports
Audio: Realtek ALC662 6-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC
LAN: Realtek RTL8111F 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Ports: 8x USB 2.0 Ports (4 rear, 4 via headers), 1x PS/2 Keyboard Port, 1x PS/2 Mouse Port, 1x VGA Port, 1x HDMI Port, 1x RJ45 LAN Port, Audio I/O Jacks
Case: Realan E-i3 brushed aluminum case (silver or black) 200*60*236 mm (W*H*D)
PSU: 120W internal DC power board with 60W external AC adapter
Dougie, are you selling this one on your site yet?
RE: looking for a second system solution - rtate - 2012-11-28
so far the Pivos seems to have the most processing power and used with linux it seems to get good reviews.
I think I might give this a shot.
The ability to boot right to xbmc would be appealing to the wife...
RE: looking for a second system solution - Dougie Fresh - 2012-11-28
(2012-11-28, 12:15)mprassel Wrote:(2012-11-27, 21:37)Dougie Fresh Wrote: How about this barebones system for $239 + shipping? You just need to add your OpenELEC USB stick to it.
CPU: Intel Celeron 847 Dual-Core Processor (1.1 GHz)
Video: Intel 2000 HD Graphics w/ Max Shared Memory of 1759MB; Supports DX10.1; Supports HDCP
Chipset: Intel NM70
Memory: 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1333
SATA: 1x SATA3 Ports, 3x SATA2 Ports
Audio: Realtek ALC662 6-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC
LAN: Realtek RTL8111F 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Ports: 8x USB 2.0 Ports (4 rear, 4 via headers), 1x PS/2 Keyboard Port, 1x PS/2 Mouse Port, 1x VGA Port, 1x HDMI Port, 1x RJ45 LAN Port, Audio I/O Jacks
Case: Realan E-i3 brushed aluminum case (silver or black) 200*60*236 mm (W*H*D)
PSU: 120W internal DC power board with 60W external AC adapter
Dougie, are you selling this one on your site yet?
I just got the new E-i3 cases this week for making little streamer boxes like these. I've got a little more testing to do and then they'll be up on the site, probably within the next day or two.
I can't tell you how excited I am about this!
(Not sure why I get so excited everytime these get smaller but I do!)RE: looking for a second system solution - mprassel - 2012-11-28
It looks like a sweet machine for a streamer. Definitely keep us posted.
RE: looking for a second system solution - cbiggers - 2012-11-28
You guys loiok at the Lenovo Q190? They were on sale black friday/cyber monday for $335. Still on sale actually. HD3000 Video, Celeron 887 1.5ghz.
I think I may jump on one of thse. Any thoughts?
Store Page
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/desktops/ideacentre/q-series/q190?cid=us|semd|se|google|Desk_002|Q190|NE_Ideacentre_Q_Desktops|100143&#.ULZHmofAd8E
Specs
http://shop.lenovo.com/products/us/tech-specs/desktop/ideacentre/q-series/q190/
RE: looking for a second system solution - RealDealNeil - 2012-11-28
I'm in the same boat. Almost went for the Pivos deal on Monday for $80 but was compelled to wait for the Ouya. I'm in no rush.
The specs on the Ouya look great for a price similar to Pivos. I understand it'll take some time to get XBMC compatible with the Ouya's SoC, but can anyone comment on it's potential?
RE: looking for a second system solution - Dougie Fresh - 2012-11-29
(2012-11-28, 19:20)cbiggers Wrote: You guys loiok at the Lenovo Q190? They were on sale black friday/cyber monday for $335. Still on sale actually. HD3000 Video, Celeron 887 1.5ghz.
I think I may jump on one of thse. Any thoughts?
Store Page
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/desktops/ideacentre/q-series/q190?cid=us|semd|se|google|Desk_002|Q190|NE_Ideacentre_Q_Desktops|100143&#.ULZHmofAd8E
Specs
http://shop.lenovo.com/products/us/tech-specs/desktop/ideacentre/q-series/q190/
Nice. It's great to see these Sandy Bridge mobile based desktops. That's a great price for everything included.
AFAIK though, it's the HD 2000 GPU like all Celeron mobile processors. http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-887-Notebook-Processor.77901.0.html. HD 2000 works great too.
RE: looking for a second system solution - cbiggers - 2012-11-29
(2012-11-29, 00:16)Dougie Fresh Wrote:(2012-11-28, 19:20)cbiggers Wrote: You guys loiok at the Lenovo Q190? They were on sale black friday/cyber monday for $335. Still on sale actually. HD3000 Video, Celeron 887 1.5ghz.
I think I may jump on one of thse. Any thoughts?
Store Page
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/desktops/ideacentre/q-series/q190?cid=us|semd|se|google|Desk_002|Q190|NE_Ideacentre_Q_Desktops|100143&#.ULZHmofAd8E
Specs
http://shop.lenovo.com/products/us/tech-specs/desktop/ideacentre/q-series/q190/
Nice. It's great to see these Sandy Bridge mobile based desktops. That's a great price for everything included.
AFAIK though, it's the HD 2000 GPU like all Celeron mobile processors. http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-887-Notebook-Processor.77901.0.html. HD 2000 works great too.
http://shop.lenovo.com/products/us/desktop/ideacentre/q-series/q190/q190-datasheet.pdf
That says up to HD2000. I dunno which the current available models ship with. I really wanna order one just to play with.
RE: looking for a second system solution - IsleOfMan - 2012-11-29
Would an Atom D2500 w/ GMA3600 do the trick? If so, any of these bare bones systems plus a 2gb stick of ram ($10, just watch for 204 vs. 240 pin) should do the trick. They all have lukewarm reviews, but most are regarding the lack of WinXP and/or Win7 64bit drivers for GMA3600. I don't think you'll have much luck with any of these on any Linux build, though... but if you're willing to use 32bit Win7, you should be good to go.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119077
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119074
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119076
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119075
Along a similar line but OpenElec Friendly, this E350 based bare-bones should do the trick as well...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119059
RE: looking for a second system solution - Dougie Fresh - 2012-11-29
When I test it, I found the D2700 stuff to be ok for mom & dad's surfing PC but for HTPC usage it wasn't great. It felt slower than the previous generation D525 when navigating around in Windows.