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RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - DaveTOR - 2014-02-04

Which hardware is missing drivers for Windows 7?

Any chance they can be written in the future?


RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - pr0xZen - 2014-02-04

Hi there! Long time lurker, new member here.

As most others, I have been intrigued by the DN2820FYKH, and Just placed my order for one of these, acompanied by a Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB and 4GB Crucial CT51264BF160B. I am primarily thinking of running Win8 on this.

Here's the thing; I just spent a bit over budget on these parts, and forgot an essensial element; My AVR has no HDMI support, and my TV does not do audio passthrough (toslink output) above 2ch stereo. Now, being on a tight budget, replacing my precious old NAD T754 receiver is out of the question.

What I'm looking for, is a functional method of toslink S/PDIF output (Receiver can't do DTS-HD or TrueHD anyway). As I will not be using any analog audio output, the cheapest possible option for digital optical output is what I need - preferrably a USB solution. Honestly, I'd prefer some cheap "ebay china cr*p", if it gets the job done properly. I've had a look at the Turtle Beach Audio Advantage micro 2 - but with shipping to Norway its still going to be about $50.

Any ideas?


RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - mlrtime3 - 2014-02-04

(2014-02-04, 19:31)pr0xZen Wrote: Hi there! Long time lurker, new member here.

As most others, I have been intrigued by the DN2820FYKH, and Just placed my order for one of these, acompanied by a Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB and 4GB Crucial CT51264BF160B. I am primarily thinking of running Win8 on this.

Here's the thing; I just spent a bit over budget on these parts, and forgot an essensial element; My AVR has no HDMI support, and my TV does not do audio passthrough (toslink output) above 2ch stereo. Now, being on a tight budget, replacing my precious old NAD T754 receiver is out of the question.

What I'm looking for, is a functional method of toslink S/PDIF output (Receiver can't do DTS-HD or TrueHD anyway). As I will not be using any analog audio output, the cheapest possible option for digital optical output is what I need - preferrably a USB solution. Honestly, I'd prefer some cheap "ebay china cr*p", if it gets the job done properly. I've had a look at the Turtle Beach Audio Advantage micro 2 - but with shipping to Norway its still going to be about $50.

Any ideas?


Your cheapest option is to use the analog output until you have enough money for a proper hdmi solution. I wouldn't waste money on a converter.


RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - edwr - 2014-02-04

(2014-02-04, 17:44)DaveTOR Wrote: Which hardware is missing drivers for Windows 7?

Any chance they can be written in the future?

Graphics seems to be the major one at the moment. Windows 7 support is supposedly coming, and as I imagine it's one of the team's top priorities at the moment, that hopefully won't take too long.


RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - pr0xZen - 2014-02-04

(2014-02-04, 20:03)mlrtime3 Wrote: Your cheapest option is to use the analog output until you have enough money for a proper hdmi solution. I wouldn't waste money on a converter.

I believe I already stated that replacing the AVR was out of the question. Its only used for audio. An equivalent AVR, with HDMI capabilities, is going to set me back around $1000. Or did you have some other solution in mind? I'm not looking for any analog-> digital converter - in that case I could simply run the 3.5mm stereo output to the AVR.

What I was hoping to dig up, was a cheap USB sound card with optical toslink (passthrough). The receiver handles DD/DTS decoding.

A blind shot; are there any toslink/spidf headers on the NUC board?


RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - chaseme - 2014-02-04

(2014-02-04, 05:36)joemo240 Wrote: It wont show my drive up when I turn Legacy off so I am stuck now any one know what do do? thank you

I had the same issue yesterday, and ya I had to disable Legacy, Enable UEFI and reinstall Win8.1. Zero audio till I did that. On top of it all I managed to screw up the BIOS enough no USB Keyboards would work (tried 4). Stuck in a boot device failure loop until I cleared the CMOS with the jumper...


RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - 00b5 - 2014-02-04

(2014-02-04, 19:31)pr0xZen Wrote: Hi there! Long time lurker, new member here.

As most others, I have been intrigued by the DN2820FYKH, and Just placed my order for one of these, acompanied by a Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB and 4GB Crucial CT51264BF160B. I am primarily thinking of running Win8 on this.

Here's the thing; I just spent a bit over budget on these parts, and forgot an essensial element; My AVR has no HDMI support, and my TV does not do audio passthrough (toslink output) above 2ch stereo. Now, being on a tight budget, replacing my precious old NAD T754 receiver is out of the question.

What I'm looking for, is a functional method of toslink S/PDIF output (Receiver can't do DTS-HD or TrueHD anyway). As I will not be using any analog audio output, the cheapest possible option for digital optical output is what I need - preferrably a USB solution. Honestly, I'd prefer some cheap "ebay china cr*p", if it gets the job done properly. I've had a look at the Turtle Beach Audio Advantage micro 2 - but with shipping to Norway its still going to be about $50.

Any ideas?

I use this on an old dell laptop that has HDMI out, and it allows the audio to pass back to AVR via optical. Also simplified my setup, since i just have to hit one button to change inputs now, instead of changing the TVs input, then the AVRs input, etc.

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=5557&seq=1&format=2


RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - pr0xZen - 2014-02-04

(2014-02-04, 21:37)00b5 Wrote: I use this on an old dell laptop that has HDMI out, and it allows the audio to pass back to AVR via optical. Also simplified my setup, since i just have to hit one button to change inputs now, instead of changing the TVs input, then the AVRs input, etc.

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=5557&seq=1&format=2

Thank you Smile I will keep this in mind - I already pulled the trigger and ordered this: http://dx.com/p/15746
Its a CM106 based set, wich I understand has updated win8 drivers and good overall OS support. In addition, I came across positive feedback with regards to DD/AC3/DTS passthrough.


RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - yuyak - 2014-02-05

I don't think this has been mentioned on this thread yet (maybe it was and I missed it)... but apparently there's a haswell-based fanless ASUS chromebox coming. Celeron 2955U w/ all necessary hardware + chromeOS for $179

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7735/asus-chromebox-fanless-haswell-in-a-nuclike-form-factor-starting-at-179


RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - jammyb - 2014-02-05

(2014-02-05, 00:26)yuyak Wrote: I don't think this has been mentioned on this thread yet (maybe it was and I missed it)... but apparently there's a haswell-based fanless ASUS chromebox coming. Celeron 2955U w/ all necessary hardware + chromeOS for $179

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7735/asus-chromebox-fanless-haswell-in-a-nuclike-form-factor-starting-at-179

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=185329


RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - rizo - 2014-02-05

just upgraded my zotac id11 to the Nuc DN2820. so far pretty happy but still can't do hi10p... it struggles with 1080p hi10p w/ FLAC audio. anything non-hi10p is fine including 1080p ~20Mbps dts5.1. this was all on windows 8.1 w/ updates except a bios update.

since everything seems fine with windows 8.1 (msdn copy from work), im going to give fedora or ubuntu a go. both have EFI support.


RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - Kiskakas - 2014-02-05

(2014-02-04, 02:34)JasonHoffman Wrote:
(2014-02-04, 02:27)joemo240 Wrote: I have mine all set up is there any way to get any sound out of HDMI and it seem that xbmc is not very good in windows 8.1 my ouya seems better to me.

Which operating system are you using? HDMI audio works fine in all but for Windows 8.1 you need to use UEFI boot and have Legacy Boot disabled.

If you're using Linux Mint, the no HDMI audio problem isn't NUC specific. There's a known fix from another thread:

Add the following groups to your account: audio, pulse, pulse-access, video, voice
In a terminal window run the following:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/alsa-daily
apt update
apt install oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms
Reboot the system.

JasonHoffman

After installing linux mint 16 (UEFI enabled legacy disabled, because legacy boot didn't worked at all) I had no menu button on the left bottom corner (in fact I was not having anything on desktop just a welcome window). I was only able to do a right-click nothing else. I have updated linuxmint, tried to get back mint menu etc. with no luck.

Which version of linuxmint did you use or what was the trick you did to get menu?

Thanks in advance!


RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - falc410 - 2014-02-05

(2014-02-05, 09:05)rizo Wrote: just upgraded my zotac id11 to the Nuc DN2820. so far pretty happy but still can't do hi10p... it struggles with 1080p hi10p w/ FLAC audio. anything non-hi10p is fine including 1080p ~20Mbps dts5.1. this was all on windows 8.1 w/ updates except a bios update.

Thanks for the info. Damn, I had hoped that this NUC would be able to play hi10p @1080. It seems I really have to get the i3 Version then Sad


RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - mlrtime3 - 2014-02-05

(2014-02-05, 14:49)falc410 Wrote:
(2014-02-05, 09:05)rizo Wrote: just upgraded my zotac id11 to the Nuc DN2820. so far pretty happy but still can't do hi10p... it struggles with 1080p hi10p w/ FLAC audio. anything non-hi10p is fine including 1080p ~20Mbps dts5.1. this was all on windows 8.1 w/ updates except a bios update.

Thanks for the info. Damn, I had hoped that this NUC would be able to play hi10p @1080. It seems I really have to get the i3 Version then Sad

Anyone have a hi10p 1080p sample? I'll try it in the latest snapshot of openelec.


RE: Intel NUC - HTPC (Bay Trail/Silvermont 2013Q4 edition) - falc410 - 2014-02-05

Here are some samples: http://www.koi-sama.net/files/hi10/

Even though I have no idea what bitrate those files have, since I'm at work currently.