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RE: Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - radiohead6969 - 2014-04-06

(2014-04-06, 18:11)Koying Wrote:
(2014-04-06, 16:02)dismantler Wrote: http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=167513

Crash from new build as soon as I try to play. The background menu fades as if it's going to load and then it drops back to the fire launcher.

Software multi-threaded still works fine.

Btw I noticed you said leave mediacodec on, but was I supposed to turn off libstagefright?
Right, thanks.
Updated build: http://mirrors.xbmc.org/test-builds/android/arm/xbmc-20140406-029f083-fixamcoutput-armeabi-v7a.apk

If mediacodec is ON, it's picked up whatever the value of libstagefright...

Thank you will test


RE: Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - rj2763 - 2014-04-06

(2014-04-06, 17:15)DiegoMejia Wrote: i know this is an xbmc forum but for those interested, looks like we have root!!

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thanks jcase from xda
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51688189&postcount=105

Great work Jcase!!!


RE: Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - jocala - 2014-04-06

(2014-04-06, 18:27)tennisbgc Wrote: has anyone tested out vc-1 or mpeg-2 files on this? heres a sample https://www.dropbox.com/s/ji0d8q4h322pd8p/Jurassic%20Park%20%281993%29.REMUX.bluray%20%281%29-001.mkv

Did not work for me. I'm using the Ouya build.

A generic non-powered usb hub works with a generic usb kbd/mouse.

A logitech wired game controller (f310) is recognized by the kernel, but not by any software I've tried.

The Microsoft usb ir remote/receiver does not work Sad
(Bummed by this. I've used this remote for years.)


RE: Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - tential - 2014-04-06

(2014-04-06, 12:04)charliebrown Wrote:
(2014-04-06, 11:51)kim1406 Wrote:
(2014-04-06, 10:58)charliebrown Wrote: so, in comparison (and i know that the xbmc isnt nearly done to be optimized for the fire tv) how much faster than the ouya can one expect this to be?
I want to know this too, as I was just a minute a way to order an Ouya, then sow the Fire.
What I like about Ouya is the capability of handling heavy skins like Aeon with good menu navigation speed, I hope Fire can do this.

yeah, also the vs trailbay nuc, how it whould compare there.

I'm not sure why Koying said there are no nice Hulu/Netflix apps. I think he was talking about if you plan on using OpenELEC. If you're in Windows there are nice Hulu/Netflix apps.
BayTrail NUC Vs FireTV isn't a fair comparison though like he said. BayTrail is a full x86 processor. It's pretty fast. It's as fast as the laptop processor penryn from 2008. The NUC is a full fledged PC. You can run Windows, OpenELEC, Ubuntu, etc. A NUC though is 2x+ the price of FireTV. If you're in OpenELEC, it's around 200+ but with Windows, you have to factor in a Windows license, you aren't booting windows off a USB drive probably so you'll need a SSD, you're probably 400+ at that point.

So comparing FireTVs $100 price point vs BayTrail NUC isn't fair.


RE: Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - jjd-uk - 2014-04-06

Baytrail NUC is about $140 so hardly double the price.


RE: Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - davilla - 2014-04-06

(2014-04-06, 19:25)jjd-uk Wrote: Baytrail NUC is about $140 so hardly double the price.

In a nice case, with power supply and an IR remote ? Apple to Apples when comparing please.


RE: Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - tential - 2014-04-06

(2014-04-06, 19:25)jjd-uk Wrote: Baytrail NUC is about $140 so hardly double the price.

Yes I understand the BASE price of NUC. But you need RAM, you need storage, both which add to the cost, then assuming the person is looking to do the things the FireTV does you'll also need an IR remote/receiver. All of that gets you to around $200.
Add in a Windows OS, that's another $100.
Add in a SSD for Windows that's another additional cost.

Saying that the NUC is $140, and just ignoring the fact that you need RAM, Storage, and Operating system (if you're not running OpenELEC), isn't really a fair comparison. It all depends on what the poster wants to do, hence why I was saying that Baytrail NUC is a completely different, beast, but it's a full x86 capable processor vs FireTV which is running Android. You got lots of options of what you can do with x86.

Edit: Ya what davilla is saying. I'm making it apples to apples and explaining the original things koying said in response to that post in terms of hulu/netflix since I'm afraid the poster may not understand exactly what koying was saying when he was saying the nuc was XBMC only, that he was talking about OpenElec.


RE: Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - davilla - 2014-04-06

(2014-04-06, 18:54)rj2763 Wrote:
(2014-04-06, 17:15)DiegoMejia Wrote: i know this is an xbmc forum but for those interested, looks like we have root!!

Image

thanks jcase from xda
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51688189&postcount=105

Great work Jcase!!!

Goggle 'Android Impactor' , it will bust root on most all Android devices.


RE: Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - DiegoMejia - 2014-04-06

(2014-04-06, 18:27)tennisbgc Wrote: has anyone tested out vc-1 or mpeg-2 files on this? heres a sample https://www.dropbox.com/s/ji0d8q4h322pd8p/Jurassic%20Park%20%281993%29.REMUX.bluray%20%281%29-001.mkv

i too tested this file on my amazon fire tv using ouya for xbmc version and it wont play at all. I than tested the same file on my madcatz mojo running xbmc v13 beta 3 and video and audio played but their was latency, than on the mojo with xbmc for ouya and i could hear sound but no video. i wonder if any android box could even play remux blurays (uncompressed blurays without the extras) saw that the file has dts-hd on it. i wonder if the problem is the network, i'll upload the file locally and test.

I run a gigabit network from nas to switch but the bottleneck is the 10/100 nics on the ouya/mojo/fire tv. i hope the android tv learns and puts in a 10/100/1000

update
tested file locally with xbmc v13 beta 3. same results as mojo. even when played locally.


RE: Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - jjd-uk - 2014-04-06

(2014-04-06, 19:31)tential Wrote:
(2014-04-06, 19:25)jjd-uk Wrote: Baytrail NUC is about $140 so hardly double the price.

Yes I understand the BASE price of NUC. But you need RAM, you need storage, both which add to the cost, then assuming the person is looking to do the things the FireTV does you'll also need an IR remote/receiver. All of that gets you to around $200.
Add in a Windows OS, that's another $100.
Add in a SSD for Windows that's another additional cost.

Saying that the NUC is $140, and just ignoring the fact that you need RAM, Storage, and Operating system (if you're not running OpenELEC), isn't really a fair comparison. It all depends on what the poster wants to do, hence why I was saying that Baytrail NUC is a completely different, beast, but it's a full x86 capable processor vs FireTV which is running Android. You got lots of options of what you can do with x86.

Edit: Ya what davilla is saying. I'm making it apples to apples and explaining the original things koying said in response to that post in terms of hulu/netflix since I'm afraid the poster may not understand exactly what koying was saying when he was saying the nuc was XBMC only, that he was talking about OpenElec.
RAM and USB stick as storage is no more than $20 in total then run either Openelec or another Linux distro + xbmc and who wants to use the crappy included remote.


RE: Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - DiegoMejia - 2014-04-06

the title of the thread is Amazon Fire TV for XBMC, i dont want to spend too much time filtering out the posts on why the NUC is better than the amazon fire tv. everyone has their opinion so please lets stay as close to the topic as we can.


Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - ilovemymac - 2014-04-06

Openelec can't run amazon or Netflix so don't compare it. Please stay on topic.


RE: Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - jjd-uk - 2014-04-06

Fair point, just being devils advocate so I'll duck out Smile


RE: Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - thess - 2014-04-06

(Meanwhile, installing Koying's latest build, will report back shortly.)


RE: Amazon Fire TV for XBMC - dogatemyrouter - 2014-04-06

(2014-04-06, 18:56)jocala Wrote:
(2014-04-06, 18:27)tennisbgc Wrote: has anyone tested out vc-1 or mpeg-2 files on this? heres a sample https://www.dropbox.com/s/ji0d8q4h322pd8p/Jurassic%20Park%20%281993%29.REMUX.bluray%20%281%29-001.mkv


The Microsoft usb ir remote/receiver does not work Sad
(Bummed by this. I've used this remote for years.)

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1524543/amazon-to-announce-a-new-product-on-april-2nd-looks-like-a-new-media-streamer-running-android/210#post_24573197

This MCE IR usb works with the Fire TV. $12 and you have IR.