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Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - Hedda - 2014-05-21

Any plans to add Ultra HD resolution support to XBMC's GUI engine soon?

Ultra High-Definition televisions (also known as Ultra HD television, UltraHD, UHDTV, and UHD) with a native 3840x2160 pixels resolution are by now beginning to become more affordable, so wondering if and when the XBMC GUI engine will have natively support these higher resolutions for skins?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_high_definition_television

I know that XBMC can already playback 4K / UltraHD / 2160p videos, and many modern GPU / APU / SoC already support outputing 4K / UltraHD / 2160p display, but this question is about when XBMC GUI engine will also be able to natively support rendering and displaying skins made in that resolution too without just up-scaling skins made in 1080p resolution?


And since both the CEA (Consumer Electronics Association) and the ITU (International Telecommunication Union) specifications of Ultra High-Definition television define both 4K UHDTV (2160p) and 8K UHDTV (4320p) I might as well ask about 8K UHD (4320p = 7680×4320 resolution) support for skins in XBMC GUI engine as well when asking here for native Ultra HD skinning support?


4K UHDTV (2160p), which is roughly equivalent to 4K cinema, is 3840 pixels wide by 2160 pixels tall (8.3 megapixels), which is four times as many pixels as 1920x1080 (2.1 megapixels).

8K UHDTV (4320p), which is roughly equivalent to IMAX film, is 7680 pixels wide by 4320 pixels tall (33.2 megapixels), which is sixteen times as many pixels as current 1080p HDTV.


RE: Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - Hitcher - 2014-05-21

So XBMC currently outputs the GUI upscaled to 4K?

In which case it's not when XBMC will support it but when skinners do.


RE: Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - ronie - 2014-05-21

someone just needs to buy all of us a 4K TV right? ;-)


RE: Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - BigNoid - 2014-05-21

Preferably before june 12 so we can watch the world cup in 4k start skinning right away Tongue


RE: Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - Jeroen - 2014-05-21

The word overkill comes to mind.


RE: Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - nessus - 2014-05-21

(2014-05-21, 10:03)Hedda Wrote: Ultra High-Definition televisions (also known as Ultra HD television, UltraHD, UHDTV, and UHD) with a native 3840x2160 pixels resolution are by now beginning to become more affordable...
Shocked

http://store.sony.com/4k-ultra-hd-xbr-tvs/cat-27-catid-XBR-4K-Ultra-HD-TVs
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55F9000AFXZA
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=amb_link_413751862_3?ie=UTF8&bbn=172659&rh=n%3A172659%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_three_browse-bin%3A7688788011%2Cn%3A!493964%2Cn%3A1266092011%2Cn%3A172282&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=auto-sparkle&pf_rd_r=1TT76Q3WND7Y618JEWEX&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_p=1802124002&pf_rd_i=Ultra%20HD%20television


RE: Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - Hitcher - 2014-05-21

I personally don't see the need for it as my viewing distance is 8ft I'd need to get an 80" one to notice the difference.

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RE: Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - Hedda - 2014-05-21

Call it overkill or whatever you want. Yes it's true that I don't even "NEED" a UltraHD/2160p television, but that doesn't mean that I don't WANT to get one.

Just like I really didn't "NEED" a FullHD/1080p television, but I still got one when they became affordable because I WANTED one, and it's great.

Upgrading from 1080p to 2160p is almost the equivalent step as upgrading from 480p DVD-Video to 1080p Blu-ray Disc, that is four times the resolution.


Take note that even the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One now have support for native 4K GUI by default, and do you really want XBMC to be worse than them?

(2014-05-21, 11:33)nessus Wrote:
(2014-05-21, 10:03)Hedda Wrote: Ultra High-Definition televisions (also known as Ultra HD television, UltraHD, UHDTV, and UHD) with a native 3840x2160 pixels resolution are by now beginning to become more affordable...
Shocked

http://store.sony.com/4k-ultra-hd-xbr-tvs/cat-27-catid-XBR-4K-Ultra-HD-TVs
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55F9000AFXZA
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=amb_link_413751862_3?ie=UTF8&bbn=172659&rh=n%3A172659%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_three_browse-bin%3A7688788011%2Cn%3A!493964%2Cn%3A1266092011%2Cn%3A172282&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=auto-sparkle&pf_rd_r=1TT76Q3WND7Y618JEWEX&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_p=1802124002&pf_rd_i=Ultra%20HD%20television
if you sort by price with your link to Amazon they list these which I would find affordable for most who want a new HDTV

Seiki SE39UY04 39-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz LED TV ~ $499
TCL LE50UHDE5691 50-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz LED TV ~ $647
Seiki SE50UY04 50-Inch 4K UHD 120Hz LED HDTV ~ $699

You can also manage to find a < 30-inch 3840 x 2160 4K monitor for less than $500 today.

or if you want more famous brands then checkout Vizio's 4K Ultra HD TV series which start at $1,000 for a 50-inch in the USA, or Kogan's first 4K TV which retails for $999 AUD in Australia
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/09/kogan-uhd-tv-agora-hd-mini-3g/
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/07/ces-vizio-ultrahd-4k-pseries-price/

I would think that prices of UltraHD will continue to drop more quick now that latest Android supports 4K resolution, most new embedded SoCs for cheap Android set-top boxes support 4K output, and even Netflix has confirmed it will streaming some shows in 4K and Dolby 5.1 in late Q2 this year.


RE: Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - MassIV - 2014-05-21

I'm with Ronie on this one.

But you can always make a 4k folder next to your 720P and 1080i folders in your favorite skin and submit it on the skin's Github when you are done.


RE: Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - Hitcher - 2014-05-21

It would basically mean resizing all your textures (better results than XBMC scaling them?) but all your artwork (posters, fanart, etc) would be scaled anyway.


RE: Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - BigNoid - 2014-05-21

The reason I started skinning in 1080p was that not all bordersizes and bordertextures are scaled well from 720p to 1080p, because its a factor 1.5 bigger.
From 1080p to 4K is a factor 2 bigger, so it should not need any work at all, xbmc will scale it perfectly. The only problem you might encounter is low res textures, but most skins use textures anyway that are small in size and look good scaled up.


RE: Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - megalodon - 2014-05-22

(2014-05-21, 10:35)BigNoid Wrote: Preferably before june 12 so we can watch the world cup in 4k start skinning right away Tongue

Im still laughing at this reply.


RE: Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - Hedda - 2014-05-26

(2014-05-21, 10:24)ronie Wrote: someone just needs to buy all of us a 4K TV right? ;-)
What if you started a crowdfunding campaign to raise money to buy a couple of the more affordable 4K monitors or UltraHD TVs to Team-XBMC GUI engine developers?

Some of Team-XBMC developers might regardless appreciate an upgrade to a 4K monitor or TV for other GUI engine development and skinning work too?

Seiki SE39UY04 39-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz LED TV (3840 x 2160) today costs about $455 US-dollar
http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-SE39UY04-39-Inch-Ultra-120Hz/dp/B00DOPGO2G/

TCL LE50UHDE5691 50-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz LED TV (3840 x 2160) today costs about $647 US-dollar
http://www.amazon.com/TCL-LE50UHDE5691-50-Inch-Ultra-120Hz/dp/B00ES5Q6E2/

DELL 28 inch Ultra HD 4K Monitor P2815Q (3840 x 2160) today costs about $499 US-dollar
http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Monitor-P2815Q-years-warranty/dp/B00I0H9T5C/

ViewSonic VX2880ml 28-Inch 4K Ultra HD LED Monitor today costs about $499 US-dollar
http://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-VX2880ml-28-Inch-Monitor-3840x2160/dp/B00LJVMOEY/

Samsung 4K UHD (3840 x 2160) Monitor U28D590 (International version) today costs about $616 US-dollar
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Monitor-U28D590-International-version/dp/B00K2QL0YC/


RE: Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - jmarshall - 2014-05-27

Given it hasn't been explicitly stated as yet: XBMC's GUI engine already supports whatever resolution you like. Right now. No changes needed.

The skinners can code in 12039124080 x 2384787 if they want to.


RE: Ultra HD (UHD / 4K / 2160p) skin resolution support by XBMC GUI engine? - Romipat - 2020-08-07

(2014-05-21, 10:03)Hedda Wrote: Any plans to add Ultra HD resolution support to XBMC's GUI engine soon?

Ultra High-Definition televisions (also known as Ultra HD television, UltraHD, UHDTV, and UHD) with a native 3840x2160 pixels resolution are by now beginning to become more affordable, so wondering if and when the XBMC GUI engine will have natively support these higher resolutions for skins?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_high_definition_television

I know that XBMC can already playback 4K / UltraHD / 2160p videos, and many modern GPU / APU / SoC already support outputing 4K / UltraHD / 2160p display, but this question is about when XBMC GUI engine will also be able to natively support rendering and displaying skins made in that resolution too without just up-scaling skins made in 1080p resolution?


And since both the CEA (Consumer Electronics Association) and the ITU (International Telecommunication Union) specifications of Ultra High-Definition television define both 4K UHDTV (2160p) and 8K UHDTV (4320p) I might as well ask about 8K UHD (4320p = 7680×4320 resolution) support for skins in XBMC GUI engine as well when asking here for native Ultra HD skinning support?


4K UHDTV (2160p), which is roughly equivalent to 4K cinema, is 3840 pixels wide by 2160 pixels tall (8.3 megapixels), which is four times as many pixels as 1920x1080 (2.1 megapixels).

8K UHDTV (4320p), which is roughly equivalent to IMAX film, is 7680 pixels wide by 4320 pixels tall (33.2 megapixels), which is sixteen times as many pixels as current 1080p HDTV.
 good question I'm on the lookout for a 4k skin too as my tvs  upscale the 1080 ones which has caused  some odd  issues  on my TV's


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