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RE: Google Nexus Player - Topken - 2014-11-04
hmm wonder if a usb ethernet adapter would help with many of those issues Ars technica were having.
RE: Google Nexus Player - Scott R - 2014-11-04
Yikes. That ars review is depressing. I was really looking forward to buying one of these soon to play around with. They didn't test out XBMC, so I guess I can still hold out hope that XBMC will be able to play everything smoothly. Right?
RE: Google Nexus Player - Joster - 2014-11-04
I agree Scott R
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/03/google-nexus-player-review/
RE: Google Nexus Player - essential - 2014-11-04
Looking good, never saw this before.
I'd switch from Amazon Fire TV just to have an XBMC launcher on the main screen without any crazy launcher redirects.
http://www.androidauthority.com/xbmc-spotted-working-android-tv-416120/
https://plus.google.com/+KeyanMobli/posts/Cvc7pwT6qGD
RE: Google Nexus Player - movie78 - 2014-11-04
(2014-11-04, 17:08)essential Wrote: Looking good, never saw this before.
I'd switch from Amazon Fire TV just to have an XBMC launcher on the main screen without any crazy launcher redirects.
http://www.androidauthority.com/xbmc-spotted-working-android-tv-416120/
https://plus.google.com/+KeyanMobli/posts/Cvc7pwT6qGD
As a owner of the Dev kit,the XBMC/Kodi Lean back launcher works In Android TV.
13.2 Gotham for Nexus TV Launcher
http://d-h.st/zTT
RE: Google Nexus Player - PantsOnFire - 2014-11-04
(2014-11-04, 02:51)Scott R Wrote: Yikes. That ars review is depressing. I was really looking forward to buying one of these soon to play around with. They didn't test out XBMC, so I guess I can still hold out hope that XBMC will be able to play everything smoothly. Right?
Me three. Yeah they're really hard on the nexus9 as well. :-S. I don't really think it's justified. The nexus player has a really lovely UI hey. Even got me thinking about making an xbmc skin!
RE: Google Nexus Player - drewg - 2014-11-06
I have one.
The good: With a USB OTG cable & a USB wired ethernet adapter, the network connection is stable. Playback of some BD rips is great. Playback of 720p mpeg2 is great.
The bad. Some BD rips don't play back well. VC1 has a very low framerate (planet earth) Some h.264 rips just show a black screen (game of thrones). 1080i mpeg2 is basically unwatchable (good eats). Disabling de-interlacing helps some.
If anybody wants to look, I've uploaded at log to http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=342178
The names in (parens) above correspond to the videos played in the log.
I'm happy to try patches, etc, for devs.
RE: Google Nexus Player - Topken - 2014-11-06
Ok sounds like ethernet helps with video playback similar to the issues I have herd about with the ADT-1 devkit. Good to get a confirmation on that drewg. If you need more USB ports a hub powered or passive would help. Which one depends on what you want to plug into the Nexus Player.Lot of power hungry devices and you need a powered hub for instance. Can you test thumb drives and maybe an external drive as well drewg?
RE: Google Nexus Player - hdmkv - 2014-11-06
It's a shame Google dropped Ethernet on this and didn't go for at least 16GB of storage. At this point, Amazon's Fire TV remains better.
RE: Google Nexus Player - drewg - 2014-11-06
Yes, I will try a thumb drive. What format is best? Ext4? Fat? NTFS?. I'm afraid anything I'm asked to test will have a fairly high latency, as I work long hours, and there is a very small window when I can play with this (after family goes to bed & Dad can break the TV).
One thing that does work is an RC6 remote control IR receiver, so that I can integrate it with my harmony setup. I need to figure out if I can use it on a hub with the USB-ethernet dongle without killing the network.
Any idea why the 1080i playback is so horrific? Even if the device does not have h/w accelerated mpeg2, we have 4 x86 cores here. I was decoding 1080i in ~2004 on a single core Pentium4 with MythTV. From the log on the OSD, we're at ~130% CPU when playing back 720p, and 290% CPU when playing back 1080i. (and 60% CPU when playing back a h.264 bd rip). Is the nightly build not optimized, or something like that? Is there any way to use the GPU to do some kind of partial offload, similar to xvmc or something?
Last, for somebody who has a firetv, how is the 1080i playback there?
RE: Google Nexus Player - Scott R - 2014-11-07
(2014-11-06, 07:15)drewg Wrote: Playback of some BD rips is great. Playback of 720p mpeg2 is great.So, it sounds like the Fire TV hardware is actually a bit better with high-bitrate h.264 and MPEG-2. That makes me sad.
The bad. Some BD rips don't play back well. VC1 has a very low framerate (planet earth) Some h.264 rips just show a black screen (game of thrones). 1080i mpeg2 is basically unwatchable (good eats). Disabling de-interlacing helps some.
RE: Google Nexus Player - cbiggers - 2014-11-07
I have my nexus player. I haven't test XBMC but I have tested Plex. USB ethernet works on it though.
RE: Google Nexus Player - hdmkv - 2014-11-07
Can you test speed via USB ethernet? Curious how fast.
RE: Google Nexus Player - drewg - 2014-11-08
(2014-11-07, 22:46)hdmkv Wrote: Can you test speed via USB ethernet? Curious how fast.
I see about 80Mb/s with a http://support.linksys.com/en-us/support/adapters/USB300M
as reported by netperf -tTCP_MAERTS running to a netperf server running on my fileserver.
Notes
1) this is a 10/100 adapter
2) this USB adapter is plugged into a wireless bridge (with antennas, so it gets a far better signal than the nexus)
3) this is the same speed reported by the same version of netperf running on my SageTV HD300 box, which is plugged into the same wireless bridge.
4) the HD300 reported 94Mb/s when I lived in my old house with a hard wired ethernet jack by the TV. So the wireless bridge is costing something.
RE: Google Nexus Player - hermit - 2014-11-08
for those who just got nexus player, all I had to do was:
1.) Activate developer mode (like other nexus products in about device)
2.) allow unknown sources (like other nexus products)
3.) Install Chrome from my desktop account to "no carrier Nexus Player" READ BELOW IF CONFUSED
4.) install sideload launcher by chainfire tools & ES FILE EXPLORER from my desktop account to "no carrier Nexus Player" READ BELOW IF CONFUSED
5.) reboot my nexus player by unplugging (no software reboot?!?)
6.) goto sideload launcher and launch chrome download latest xbmc x86 (YOU NEED A WIRELESS MOUSE)
7.) install with ES FILE EXPLORER in downloads and sideload launcher again to launch xbmc and enjoy.
for 3.) and 4.) i may have not explained it well enough, i just went to play.google.com from my desktop computer on the same wifi. and when i hit install it gave me an option to install into my different devices. no need for USB or anything extra.
Just figured someone might like this information as the ones i found required a OTG cable.
CONS
1.) so far i cant figure a way to "right click" with the remote but I have a bluetooth keyboard/mouse and i just hit C so its not a big deal.
2.) sometimes when XBMC freezes (due to my impatience) i havent found a way to force stop easily and thats kind of a drag. (but its probably cause I don't know how and i havent read the manual just yet)
3.) in Chrome at first you see a black bar in the middle that is the login menu (i fiddle around with the controller and got it to log in. after that you need a wireless mouse or you're screwed, luckily i have bluetooth mouse and keyboard)
PROS
no real stutter during playing (only tried 720p over wifi yet and a few sd things)
i've tried 720 HD with wifi and it seems to work fine. I don't have a USB Ethernet adapter yet.
Over all I really like it, I haven't had any other things to compare it to tho I used to use chromecast with my nexus 5 to xbmc so its a big upgrade from that.