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Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - sparticle - 2015-02-10
With the advent of the latest generation of Raspberry pi 2 devices. The Pi has become far more capable than ever before. I would be brilliant to have a raspbian/debian native package to install on the pi in just the same was as we do with Ubuntu etc.
Instead of having 'dedicated' kodi distros like openelec/xbian etc.
Raspbian is the foundations default OS, being able to mediacentre enable a pi by adding kodi raspbian sources and then installing with sudo apt-get install kodi would be fantastic.
Any ideas how we might get the team to put a native pi build on the release schedule.
Cheers
Spart
RE: Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - Ned Scott - 2015-02-10
I think it's just because we haven't had anyone who's wanted to volunteer and maintain it, which is probably because they feel it's an area well covered by other distros, and specific distros were best for the Pi1. With the Pi2, it's not as vital to be so "bare metal" (I'm not sure if I'm using that term correctly?), so hopefully someone is interested now.
The average user would still likely want to use one of the dedicated distros, but there's certainly some interesting situations where someone would rather use Raspbian (either in full from the Pi Foundation, or a light weight version of it) for a Kodi-related project/set up. Of course, people can compile Kodi, but even on a more powerful Pi2, I imagine that still takes a lot longer than it would to download :)
If someone is interested, either on Team Kodi or outside the group, and the builds meet our groups expectations (using internal ffmpeg library, for example), then I think the group would think about making it "official" or whatever.
RE: Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - sparticle - 2015-02-10
Ned,
Many thanks for your reply. I certainly hope someone from the group takes up the challenge. The Pi 2 is a very capable machine, it runs a pretty full featured desktop really well it would be great to be able to install and run Kodi natively. We have a use for it in education were we want to have a kodi mediacenter and a full education desktop. I think more people will come around to the merits of this approach with the Pi 2 and the Arm V7 optimised raspbian platform.
I'll keep banging the drum.
Cheers
Spart
Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - natethomas - 2015-02-10
I just realized an interesting thing about the English language. There's an error in your paragraph, and it could be corrected in two totally different ways.
"where we want" and "were we wont." The second version is admittedly pretty archaic and doesn't make a ton of sense, but totally sounds cooler.
RE: Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - teeedubb - 2015-02-10
About half way down the first page of a google search for 'kodi raspbian':
http://drcobra.co.uk/?p=25
That's not the original source for the packages, but the guide is a bit easier to follow and the original guide is linked to at the bottom.
RE: Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - Milhouse - 2015-02-10
Being able to type "sudo apt-get install kodi" and nothing more would be quite cool. Install a stable kodi build from the stock/supported repositories.
There's an old (actually, freaking ancient) xbmc package in the stock Raspbian repository, so somehow updating this package to recent kodi would be a good idea. Maybe contact the Raspbian maintainers (via the Raspberry Pi Forum)?
Code:
pi@raspberrypi ~ $ apt-cache show xbmc
Package: xbmc
Version: 2:11.0~git20120510.82388d5-1
Installed-Size: 36908
Maintainer: Team XBMC <[email protected]>
Architecture: all
Replaces: xbmc-data, xbmc-skin-confluence, xbmc-standalone
Provides: xbmc-data, xbmc-skin-confluence, xbmc-standalone
Depends: xbmc-bin (>= 2:11.0~git20120510.82388d5-1), xbmc-bin (<< 2:11.0~git20120510.82388d5-1.1~), mesa-utils, x11-utils, ttf-liberation, ttf-dejavu-core, python-imaging, python, python-support (>= 0.90.0)
Recommends: python-qt3
Breaks: xbmc-data (<< 2:11.0~git20111222.22ad8e4), xbmc-skin-confluence (<< 2:11.0~git20111222.22ad8e4), xbmc-standalone (<< 2:11.0~git20111222.22ad8e4)
Size: 25963456
SHA256: 0bb4a255909304393c69a7a55a6799ace414933526859e0ff92a3178f9497a4b
SHA1: 5f1135bea854785b1b8255a662056706ea26a932
MD5sum: fc7a0c42a22bd57591a32366aebd5447
Description: XBMC Media Center (arch-independent data package)
Homepage: http://xbmc.org/
Description-md5: fe8a5d04c10ac9c610a143988630b0e5
Section: video
Priority: optional
Filename: pool/main/x/xbmc/xbmc_11.0~git20120510.82388d5-1_all.debRE: Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - teeedubb - 2015-02-10
Yeah that would be nice, but having to copy paste a few extra commands is no big deal - especially when compared to compiling kodi yourself.
I'm not sure about Debian but in Ubuntu you need to install a ppa to get the latest version of kodi, otherwise you're stuck with something a bit newer than whatsbin raspbian (and a beta too if memory serves me correctly). Maybe it will change once Ubuntu (and Debian?) switch back to ffmpeg from libav.
RE: Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - Milhouse - 2015-02-10
Sure, but not every Raspberry Pi user is as comfortable with Linux and third party repositories as more advanced users - even copy/pasting a few commands can be rather daunting when the user doesn't know what they're doing and might be concerned their actions will trash their new system.
So it would be nice to have a stable, supported build from the standard Raspbian repositories. Custom and bleeding edge builds could still come from third-party repos, catering the more advanced/adventurous crowd.
I'm really not sure why more recent versions of XBMC/Kodi haven't made it into the standard repositories, I wonder if there's a lot of tinkering required to make it build which has often been a problem with large packages in the past.
RE: Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - teeedubb - 2015-02-10
Dont quote me on this, but I think it has something to do with ffmpeg/libav, but in saying that as far back as I can remember the only way to get a current xbmc build in *buntu was to venture outside the default package system.
RE: Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - wsnipex - 2015-02-10
(2015-02-10, 04:58)Milhouse Wrote: I'm really not sure why more recent versions of XBMC/Kodi haven't made it into the standard repositories, I wonder if there's a lot of tinkering required to make it build which has often been a problem with large packages in the past.
Debians packaging rules forbid embedded libs. Even having ffmpeg back in debian won't help until either all of our patches are merged upstream(unlikely) or we can live with vanilla ffmpeg.
edit: its not really very difficult to provide builds, but it really depends on raspbians stance on the above matter.
RE: Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - Ned Scott - 2015-02-10
Is that a restriction for Raspbian, though? I'm hoping not :)
RE: Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - f1vefour - 2015-02-10
What you're asking already exists, it's called XBian and can be found @ http://xbian.org
RE: Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - Ned Scott - 2015-02-10
Not quite. While Xbian and OSMC can give someone a Kodi + bare Raspbian setup, there's still situations where someone has an existing image/setup/whatever they wish to add Kodi to. They are still good options for many other situations, though.
RE: Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - f1vefour - 2015-02-10
You can leverage XBian to do that.
http://forum.xbian.org/thread-1850-post-18439.html
RE: Can we have a native Raspbian KODI build - rikardo1979 - 2015-02-10
we have the answer
http://www.xbian.org/leave-images-behind-install-software-the-way-it-is-supposed-to/