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RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - Fuaffers - 2015-07-02 Another weird problem. Every time I resolve something with this box something else really weird happens. Everything seemed normal and started playing a new episode of a show in Kodi. Thought it looked a bit zoomed in so paused it and all the show info/play, pause etc. stuff that shows above and below was almost completely cut off it was zoomed in so far. Adjusted the format settings that you can do when something is playing and it was normal. Exited out and Kodi was WAYYYYY zoomed in. Just to use it I had to figure out how to get into settings then I zoomed out in the appearance section as far as I could and it's still zoomed in too far. But then I closed Kodi and EVERYTHING on the box is zoomed in from the main dashboard to every app. How could this even happen? Any ideas here? I've rebooted it a couple times and that doesn't fix it. It started in Kodi so maybe something happened there. RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - Tinwarble - 2015-07-02 (2015-07-02, 17:08)wolfbiker Wrote: You do understand the price of the NP is $67? The cheapest Shield is $200 without the remote control...that's 3x the price. Add in the remote and you're nearly 4x. Get the 500GB Shield without a remote and that's $300, pushing 5x the price, and exceeding it if you get the remote as well. You do understand that $67 isn't the normal retail price and that you're comparing a 6-7 month old device (that's not exactly flying off the shelves) to a newly released device. You do also realized that no, it doesn't come with a remote, but it does come with a $60 game controller, something that you'd have to pay extra for with the NP. As well, your getting more than twice the hardware with the Shield, 16GB of storage, 2 USB 3.0 ports, 3GB of RAM, ethernet and 802.11 AC, built in IR (so you can use your Harmony remote) etc, etc.. And what's the NP got, 8GB of storage, 1 GB of RAM, a mico-USB 2.0 port and pretty much nothing else. You ever heard the expression, "You get what you pay for"? As for the 500GB model, well, that's just apples and oranges, even against the 16GB model. RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - ozkhan1 - 2015-07-02 well to each his own. I would not use it for Kodi if I cannot play my bigger mkv rips off wifi. But I get his point that some people are ok with using Kodi on NP just for web streaming. RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - wolfbiker - 2015-07-03 (2015-07-02, 21:31)Tinwarble Wrote:(2015-07-02, 17:08)wolfbiker Wrote: You do understand the price of the NP is $67? The cheapest Shield is $200 without the remote control...that's 3x the price. Add in the remote and you're nearly 4x. Get the 500GB Shield without a remote and that's $300, pushing 5x the price, and exceeding it if you get the remote as well. Yeah, I get that, but this all stemmed from someone asking the difference between Kodi on the NP and Shield Android TV. There's not much difference between Kodi on each device. Yes, obviously the newer Shield has better specs but it doesn't deliver a Kodi experience that's much different from the NP. RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - Tinwarble - 2015-07-03 (2015-07-03, 03:00)wolfbiker Wrote: Yeah, I get that, but this all stemmed from someone asking the difference between Kodi on the NP and Shield Android TV. There's not much difference between Kodi on each device. Yes, obviously the newer Shield has better specs but it doesn't deliver a Kodi experience that's much different from the NP. And that's just not true. Even if you forget about the fact that people with very large libraries (you know all those fanarts, thumbs, artist thumbs, cd art, etc. that can take up a lot of space) will get more out of having 16GB vs 8GB and the fact that when Android "M" gets here it will expand to the USB and SD Card ports. You still have frame rate switching, 4K playback, HEVC hardware decoding which the last I heard the NP can't do and probably never will. Like I said before, the NP is probably a fine device for those that need it, and are willing to settle for it's limitations. But there are differences between it and the Shield with regards to Kodi, and yes the hardware specs still have a lot to do with those difference because the hardware determines what features can be implemented on a device. RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - Lunatixz - 2015-07-03 I'm tempted to buy this device for 4k@60Hz... Can someone give me feedback on how Kodi 15 RC1 handles in 4k? RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - kenofstephen - 2015-07-03 (2015-07-01, 22:01)Tinwarble Wrote:(2015-07-01, 20:50)iMilazzo Wrote: I am new with nVidia Shield Android TV (2 days in fact) but I am already frustrated. True, it took WD 2 years to reach there. RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - kenofstephen - 2015-07-03 (2015-07-03, 05:19)Lunatixz Wrote: I'm tempted to buy this device for 4k@60Hz... Can someone give me feedback on how Kodi 15 RC1 handles in 4k? why not? http://kodi.tv/kodi-15-0-isengard-rc-1/ 4K@60Hz playback on the NVIDIA SHIELD Android TV RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - iMilazzo - 2015-07-03 (2015-07-02, 03:06)wesk05 Wrote: nVIDIA SATV can play 24/192 FLAC files. Google Music Player and MX Player plays them fine. Kodi, Neutron Player, PowerAmp etc. seem to be limited to 48kHz. Yes, it is a fact that 23.976 playback is faulty at this time. Apparently, nVIDIA is working to fix it. The WDTV that you talk about took many years to fix 23.976 playback. weks05, yes you are right, PLEX is sending 192kHz music to my receiver but everything (music/movies) is sent like PCM. Thank you...I don't have Gold Ears but I am very proud of what I have, this is my setup, its not Hi-End but is a very good Hi-Fi: Panasonic 65VT60 THX Plasma (calibrated with CalMAN) @5Ghz Pioneer BDP-450 (wired) AppleTV @5Ghz WDTV Live (wired) Onkyo TX-NR5010 THX Receiver (wired) Monitor Audio Gold GX100 (bookshelf loudspeaker with ribbon tweeter, up to 60kHz) in BI-AMP Monitor Audio Gold GXC150 (central) Monitor Audio GXFX (surrounds, the best surround IMHO) Monitor Audio RXW12 (subwoofer) All frontal cables are Kimble Kable 8TC. My Network: COPEL Internet Optical 40/40Mb (very fast internet provider) ASUS RT-AC68W My desktop: ASUS Z87 Sabertooth - i7 4770k - 16Gb Cosair Dominator ASUS GXT970 4Gb ASUS PCE-AC68 Wireless Adapter Philips G-Sync Monitor Razer Chroma Keyboard and Mouse (2015-07-02, 09:22)wolfbiker Wrote: I think most of these arguments for the Shield are for the home theater enthusiast geek/nerd contingent which is who the Shield is ideal for with its ethernet, IR blaster, HD audio, frame rate switching, etc. There's no need to recommend it over a Nexus Player to someone who just wants a cheap Kodi device and doesn't care about all the features mentioned above. I care about all of these features, but I dont think NP is better (I even know this product). (2015-07-02, 17:08)wolfbiker Wrote: You do understand the price of the NP is $67? The cheapest Shield is $200 without the remote control...that's 3x the price. Add in the remote and you're nearly 4x. Get the 500GB Shield without a remote and that's $300, pushing 5x the price, and exceeding it if you get the remote as well. I think nVidia SATV is the most (or one of the most) expensive box in the market and the one with more issues. Can you recommend me more apps (media players) to test? Thanks all Ivan RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - wesk05 - 2015-07-03 (2015-07-03, 17:23)iMilazzo Wrote: weks05, yes you are right, PLEX is sending 192kHz music to my receiver but everything (music/movies) is sent like PCM.You do have a nice setup I don't use Plex much, but I have read that it is likely a Plex problem that Direct stream is not working properly on SATV. I am not sure of the exact reasons. Some say it is because SATV is not reporting native support for MKV format, but I have seen this with MP4 also. For Kodi, you need to enable "Adjust Display Refresh Rate" for 24/50/60Hz playback. At this time, there is no proper 23.976 playback on SATV. It is 23.999 now. You can also use the app TVHZ to set a specific refresh rate (that is supported on SATV and your TV). HD audio is not bitstreamed from Kodi or SATV now. However, Kodi can decode Dolby TrueHD to 7.1 PCM. For DTS-HD Master Audio, only the core DTS stream is bitstreamed. You cannot find a better media player than Kodi on Android. (Edit: I answered some of the questions you had asked on the SHIELD forum). RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - oWarchild - 2015-07-03 (2015-06-21, 15:55)TwistedisAGod Wrote:(2015-06-17, 16:21)Koying Wrote: It's sad that it doesn't come pre-installed? Seriously? Can someone with a SATV please try playing a couple of h.264 Hi10P animes and report back? I've placed 2 samples (720p / 1080p) in https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6iy4gxgsfn14opq/AAAK_L1M_NwZwBPb5IkEPh7Ga?dl=0 if you don't mind trying. Thanks! RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - Hiphopopotamus - 2015-07-04 (2015-07-03, 19:14)oWarchild Wrote: Can someone with a SATV please try playing a couple of h.264 Hi10P animes and report back? I've placed 2 samples (720p / 1080p) in https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6iy4gxgsfn14opq/AAAK_L1M_NwZwBPb5IkEPh7Ga?dl=0 if you don't mind trying. Thanks! They play, but overall badly, very pixelated in sections, not 100% of the time, the entire screen at the start, and then through a few sections here and there, and fine for most of it. Now I have to figure out why my TV was displaying the 720P as 1080P when I had upscaling on my AVR turned off. RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - Tinwarble - 2015-07-04 (2015-07-03, 19:14)oWarchild Wrote: Can someone with a SATV please try playing a couple of h.264 Hi10P animes and report back? I've placed 2 samples (720p / 1080p) in https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6iy4gxgsfn14opq/AAAK_L1M_NwZwBPb5IkEPh7Ga?dl=0 if you don't mind trying. Thanks! The only one I tested is the 1080p file. It seemed to play fine, but you do have to (like every other device) turn off hardware decoding because there is no hardware support for Hi10P. RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - Hiphopopotamus - 2015-07-04 Ahhhh, I didn't try that. Same result, hardware decoding off, and it plays fine. RE: NVIDIA Shield (Android TV set-top box) - Koying - 2015-07-04 I'll add an explicit exclusion from h/w decoders for Hi10p, as there is not one working as far as I know |