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--- Thread: Kodi Media Player Options with 3D MVC & HD Audio (/showthread.php?tid=221407)
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RE: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - noggin - 2015-04-06
(2015-04-06, 09:49)nikc0069 Wrote:(2015-04-06, 09:45)nickr Wrote: OK having re-acquainted myself with the terminology, the answer is that I am unsure about Sequential.
For those wondering WTF we are on about see here
http://www.best-3dtvs.com/what-is-frame-packing-3d/
http://www.best-3dtvs.com/what-is-frame-sequential-3d/
Thanks for that. Even framepacking is great as it only requires one converter box. But if the pi is capable of frame sequential output too then the cost of a 720 dlp 3d link projector is only about 150 on ebay which is much cheaper than one that does fp with all the processing in the projector. I will definitely be buying a pi 2 anyway now this has all been announced but if anyone here does know about fs possibilities I'd be greatly interested.
I'd post in the milhouse test build thread in the Raspberry Pi forum. The people who added MVC support are there. The Pi's HDMI implementation appears to be a lot more flexible than some other platforms so it is entirely possible.
Would you need to output 720/48p or 1080/48p ? (If nothing else I'd imagine 720/50p and 1080/50p with normal 'PAL speedup' might be possible?)
RE: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - nikc0069 - 2015-04-06
I'm pretty sure they need 720 120fps "interleaved" 3d. So if framepacked the equivalent would be 60hz. Is the mulhouse thread the one with all of the test builds that I've seen?
Re: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - nickr - 2015-04-06
Yrs, that's the one.
RE: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - noggin - 2015-04-06
(2015-04-06, 10:43)nikc0069 Wrote: I'm pretty sure they need 720 120fps "interleaved" 3d. So if framepacked the equivalent would be 60hz. Is the mulhouse thread the one with all of the test builds that I've seen?
Ah - I'd imagined that you'd want to avoid 3:2 pulldown for 3D 24p stuff? However I can see that for broadcast SBS material you'd need to go to 120p (As you'd be taking 720/60p TAB or 1080/60i SBS and converting it to 720/120p Frame Sequential to keep the full 60Hz motion)
http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/config-txt.md Seems to suggest that 720/120p is a supported output mode on the Pi though. (CEA Mode 47?)
RE: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - nikc0069 - 2015-04-06
(2015-04-06, 11:49)noggin Wrote:(2015-04-06, 10:43)nikc0069 Wrote: I'm pretty sure they need 720 120fps "interleaved" 3d. So if framepacked the equivalent would be 60hz. Is the mulhouse thread the one with all of the test builds that I've seen?
Ah - I'd imagined that you'd want to avoid 3:2 pulldown for 3D 24p stuff? However I can see that for broadcast SBS material you'd need to go to 120p (As you'd be taking 720/60p TAB or 1080/60i SBS and converting it to 720/120p Frame Sequential to keep the full 60Hz motion)
http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/config-txt.md Seems to suggest that 720/120p is a supported output mode on the Pi though. (CEA Mode 47?)
Yes that does look hopeful cheers
RE: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - noggin - 2015-04-06
(2015-04-06, 11:52)nikc0069 Wrote:(2015-04-06, 11:49)noggin Wrote:(2015-04-06, 10:43)nikc0069 Wrote: I'm pretty sure they need 720 120fps "interleaved" 3d. So if framepacked the equivalent would be 60hz. Is the mulhouse thread the one with all of the test builds that I've seen?
Ah - I'd imagined that you'd want to avoid 3:2 pulldown for 3D 24p stuff? However I can see that for broadcast SBS material you'd need to go to 120p (As you'd be taking 720/60p TAB or 1080/60i SBS and converting it to 720/120p Frame Sequential to keep the full 60Hz motion)
http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/config-txt.md Seems to suggest that 720/120p is a supported output mode on the Pi though. (CEA Mode 47?)
Yes that does look hopeful cheers
One of the reasons I love the Pi is that stuff like this is implemented AND documented properly. Intel and AMD could learn from this.
RE: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - nikc0069 - 2015-04-06
Popcormix seems to think that fs is possible but might not be implemented for a while. This is awesome news at it brings down the cost of a 3d projector by hundreds.
RE: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - Skank - 2015-04-06
Hdmk, is this a good one?
HiMedia Q5-II 3D Full HD Android 4.2 Smart AUDIO/TV Box (eMMC)
RE: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - movie78 - 2015-04-06
I think Raspberry Pi look like the next Ultimate all in one Kodi device.
With Raspberry Pi 2 supporting 3D mkv frame packed and soon 3D iso Frame packed.
The next iteration of Raspberry Pi (Pi 2 B or 3) should have enough processing power to support:
Bitstream audio (DTS-HD-MA-X ; DOLBY-TRUEHD-ATMOS)..
RE: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - nikc0069 - 2015-04-06
(2015-04-06, 14:58)movie78 Wrote: I think Raspberry Pi look like the next Ultimate all in one Kodi device.
With Raspberry Pi 2 supporting 3D mkv frame packed and soon 3D iso Frame packed.
The next iteration of Raspberry Pi (Pi 2 B or 3) should have enough processing power to support:
Bitstream audio (DTS-HD-MA-X ; DOLBY-TRUEHD-ATMOS)..
Yes though even now dcadec should allow dts hd to be decoded and passed as lpcm and truehd will do something similar. Never expected this from the pi. Roll on Isengard!
Re: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - nickr - 2015-04-06
Allows it already.
RE: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - tr4shcr4ft - 2015-04-07
(2015-04-06, 09:49)nikc0069 Wrote: But if the pi is capable of frame sequential output too then the cost of a 720 dlp 3d link projector is only about 150 on ebay which is much cheaper than one that does fp with all the processing in the projector.btw, is there ANY device capable of outputting 3D as 120Hz FS?
i know its possible with NVidia, but you need to buy the 3DVision kit
RE: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - nikc0069 - 2015-04-07
There is the full htpc route with nvidia and a special build but nothing easy. This would put the pi way ahead and is something I never expected.
RE: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - hdmkv - 2015-04-09
(2015-04-06, 14:16)Skank Wrote: Hdmk, is this a good one?No, that's the previous generation. What you want is the English-branded version of Q5 4K 3D, also referred to as Q5-III on some sites.
HiMedia Q5-II 3D Full HD Android 4.2 Smart AUDIO/TV Box (eMMC)
RE: Player Choices with Kodi + 3D ISO + HD Audio - ars92 - 2015-04-09
If anyone wants to get a q5 now, make sure it runs kitkat out of the box and support hevc and 4k,so you can be sure you're getting the latest one