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Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - 3dgeek - 2016-02-20
(2016-02-20, 18:01)hdmkv Wrote: MVC MKV support requested.
Well hope they will include support for MVC MKV, to me the best and most reliable format for 3D playback.
Am very happy with my Pi2 but itching for this new device.
RE: Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - popcornmix - 2016-02-20
(2016-02-20, 22:17)ma9ick Wrote: Also, there is more than meets the eye when it comes to 3D (no pun intended) - not all titles are rendered the same way on all BD players and TVs. For some reason, Edge of Tomorrow (2014) produces very unpleasant / weird parallax on my Panasonic BD / TV - it's very hard to watch, even for me who's not sensitive to this sort of things. I've tried different settings (Left first, Right first, different depth settings) but nothing seems right. Some 3D BD titles are OK, some are better, some are worse but there is the one that is absolutely awesome - Titanic, a then there is the Edge of Tomorrow on the opposite end of the spectrum (at least on my rig).
Edge of Tomorrow is encoded as right eye first. It looked great for me once left/right eyes were flipped on my Panasonic.
Without flipping the eyes it is painful to watch. What player are you using and are you sure it handles flipping eyes correctly?
RE: Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - ma9ick - 2016-02-20
(2016-02-20, 22:33)popcornmix Wrote: Edge of Tomorrow is encoded as right eye first. It looked great for me once left/right eyes were flipped on my Panasonic.I'm using Panasonic DMP-BDT320 and it seems that it does handle flipping (it has an option in its menu). I've tried both settings with various depth levels and it seemed better just for a short period of time and then it would become painful again.
Without flipping the eyes it is painful to watch. What player are you using and are you sure it handles flipping eyes correctly?
I liked Predator in general but it also had some overdone parallax moments. Titanic on the other hand was really awesome in every regard (though I'm not big fan of that movie).
RE: Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - ArieS - 2016-02-21
(2016-02-20, 22:32)3dgeek Wrote:+1, I'm happy with the Pi2 but I just wish it had more RAM and of course support for Atmos.(2016-02-20, 18:01)hdmkv Wrote: MVC MKV support requested.
Well hope they will include support for MVC MKV, to me the best and most reliable format for 3D playback.
Am very happy with my Pi2 but itching for this new device.
If HiMedia adds MVC MKV support then I would buy one...
RE: Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - UsefulG - 2016-02-21
(2016-02-21, 11:42)ArieS Wrote:(2016-02-20, 22:32)3dgeek Wrote:+1, I'm happy with the Pi2 but I just wish it had more RAM and of course support for Atmos.(2016-02-20, 18:01)hdmkv Wrote: MVC MKV support requested.
Well hope they will include support for MVC MKV, to me the best and most reliable format for 3D playback.
Am very happy with my Pi2 but itching for this new device.
If HiMedia adds MVC MKV support then I would buy one...
This is pretty much how I feel. I'm moving from an all in one PC with Powerdvd as an external player to Openelec test builds on the pi2 but if the new Q10 pro does everything it promises to do and have android apps, I'll be the first in the queue.
RE: Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - Mylo75 - 2016-02-21
This new hiMedia looks good.
Is it future proof, is it hdr capable, 10 bit or 12 bit, dolby vision or hdr10.
How soon can you give us a verified spec list of things that work hdmkv?
P.S. What is the difference between q5 pro and q10 pro.
RE: Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - Dave the Minion - 2016-02-21
(2016-02-21, 21:25)Mylo75 Wrote: Is it future proof
There is no such thing.
RE: Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - Mylo75 - 2016-02-22
(2016-02-21, 21:49)Dave the Minion Wrote:(2016-02-21, 21:25)Mylo75 Wrote: Is it future proof
There is no such thing.
Lol
I know there is no such thing as long term future proof.What I mean does it handle all the latest technology we know of at present ie 4k, hdr, mvc 3D etc...
Then at least we might get 6 months before we need to upgrade again
RE: Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - Dave the Minion - 2016-02-22
I just want a video card to put into my HTPC that will do what the Pi does. I don't need yet another device that isn't as powerful as my PC, can't easily use YouTube or search the web and all the rest. I just need what the tiny Pi can do in a card I'll pay up to $200 for. And I don't care if it can play today's games at all. It's not a gaming card for a gaming rig. It's a HTPC card for a HTPC rig. Hello, nVidia. Is this thing on
RE: Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - noggin - 2016-02-22
(2016-02-22, 04:46)Dave the Minion Wrote: I just want a video card to put into my HTPC that will do what the Pi does. I don't need yet another device that isn't as powerful as my PC, can't easily use YouTube or search the web and all the rest. I just need what the tiny Pi can do in a card I'll pay up to $200 for. And I don't care if it can play today's games at all. It's not a gaming card for a gaming rig. It's a HTPC card for a HTPC rig. Hello, nVidia. Is this thing on
You might have better luck wishing that someone will write a 3D MVC decoder and fold it into ffmpeg so that it can be done in software on any platform with the required CPU speed. However ISTR that because MVC is tied massively into H264 (as the secondary MVC eye-difference stream is used along with the 2D H264 eye feed to create the 'other' eye feed), it requires a major rewrite of the ffmpeg H264 decode code as well?
RE: Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - JustAnotherUser - 2016-02-22
(2016-02-20, 18:01)hdmkv Wrote: For Q10 Pro? Yes, like w/current-gen, but in ISO container only. MVC MKV support requested.
@hdmkv
Is the list of known bugs that you mention on the other forum just known to testers? Can it be listed or progress followed somewhere ?
As well as 4K, do you know if this box will support HDR and WideColour etc?
RE: Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - Dave the Minion - 2016-02-22
(2016-02-22, 12:03)noggin Wrote:(2016-02-22, 04:46)Dave the Minion Wrote: I just want a video card to put into my HTPC that will do what the Pi does. I don't need yet another device that isn't as powerful as my PC, can't easily use YouTube or search the web and all the rest. I just need what the tiny Pi can do in a card I'll pay up to $200 for. And I don't care if it can play today's games at all. It's not a gaming card for a gaming rig. It's a HTPC card for a HTPC rig. Hello, nVidia. Is this thing on
You might have better luck wishing that someone will write a 3D MVC decoder and fold it into ffmpeg so that it can be done in software on any platform with the required CPU speed. However ISTR that because MVC is tied massively into H264 (as the secondary MVC eye-difference stream is used along with the 2D H264 eye feed to create the 'other' eye feed), it requires a major rewrite of the ffmpeg H264 decode code as well?
Which is my point. Someone has to hack and slash and do a ton of work, essentially for free, to get software decoding to work. And even then it still isn't capable of doing the communication with the display that the hardware is fully capable of. The card manufactures simply need to remove the restrictions (or use different firmware, or whatever) but they don't need to re-invent the wheel. The Pi can do it and the entire things costs $35.
It's not different than studios insisting on locking 3D discs to 3D only and adding a second 2D only disc then charging more money. Every single 3D disc can be played in every single 2D Blu-ray player but manufacture's go out of their way to make it difficult and confusing for the consumer rather than making it simple and convenient. Graphics cards are designed and built for a number of uses and functions, not only and specifically for gaming. I'm sure simply taking a low-moderate designed card, making some minor changes which could be as simple as just firmware, slapping HTPC specifics on the box and selling it would be pretty simple for the manufactures.
RE: Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - movie78 - 2016-02-22
(2016-02-22, 13:58)JustAnotherUser Wrote:(2016-02-20, 18:01)hdmkv Wrote: For Q10 Pro? Yes, like w/current-gen, but in ISO container only. MVC MKV support requested.
@hdmkv
Is the list of known bugs that you mention on the other forum just known to testers? Can it be listed or progress followed somewhere ?
As well as 4K, do you know if this box will support HDR and WideColour etc?
From the specs sheet it looks it will support HDR (Dolby Vision Metadata)
HDMI 2.0a output up to 4K x 2K@60 fps
--Imprex 2.0 Processing Engine with HDR，Dolby vision supported
RE: Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - apgood - 2016-02-22
(2016-02-22, 12:03)noggin Wrote:Actually LAV filters nightlies now support 3D MVC mkv and 3D bluray decoding and splitting to framepacked 3D on Windows 8.1 and 10; and MadVR supports 3D rendering, so now you can use direct show players like mpg-hc / be, kodi dsplayer fork, jriver media center, etc to player your 3D framepacked movies.(2016-02-22, 04:46)Dave the Minion Wrote: I just want a video card to put into my HTPC that will do what the Pi does. I don't need yet another device that isn't as powerful as my PC, can't easily use YouTube or search the web and all the rest. I just need what the tiny Pi can do in a card I'll pay up to $200 for. And I don't care if it can play today's games at all. It's not a gaming card for a gaming rig. It's a HTPC card for a HTPC rig. Hello, nVidia. Is this thing on
You might have better luck wishing that someone will write a 3D MVC decoder and fold it into ffmpeg so that it can be done in software on any platform with the required CPU speed. However ISTR that because MVC is tied massively into H264 (as the secondary MVC eye-difference stream is used along with the 2D H264 eye feed to create the 'other' eye feed), it requires a major rewrite of the ffmpeg H264 decode code as well?
Not sure how much of this has been committed to ffmpeg though.
RE: Kodi Media Player Options with Full 3D & HD Audio - Skank - 2016-02-22
If thats so i might get back to a windows htpc with kodi, if kodi then supports 3d mvc with their engine, so no external player
Would be good, however, back to windows isnt that snappy as for ex an android box