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RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - Koying - 2015-10-28

(2015-10-28, 01:32)halfelite Wrote: I mean there is tons of hardware that does MVC but none of them are open for kodi to work with. Was not a jab at kodi or the devs.

Fair enough, but those ramblings about us only caring about the rpi needed a response Wink


RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - looun - 2015-10-28

time ago i found this article http://www.nt.uni-saarland.de/fileadmin/file_uploads/theses/master/Optimized_implementation_of_a_MVC_decoder.pdf ,that can be useful?


RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - nickr - 2015-10-28

(2015-10-28, 09:22)looun Wrote: time ago i found this article http://www.nt.uni-saarland.de/fileadmin/file_uploads/theses/master/Optimized_implementation_of_a_MVC_decoder.pdf ,that can be useful?
Been pointed too numerous times here and in ffmpeg circles. Seems to be ignored, or not easy to adapt to current ffmpeg code.


RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - movie78 - 2015-10-28

(2015-10-28, 20:59)nickr Wrote:
(2015-10-28, 09:22)looun Wrote: time ago i found this article http://www.nt.uni-saarland.de/fileadmin/file_uploads/theses/master/Optimized_implementation_of_a_MVC_decoder.pdf ,that can be useful?
Been pointed too numerous times here and in ffmpeg circles. Seems to be ignored, or not easy to adapt to current ffmpeg code.

So is it that complicated to add MVC to FFMPEG?

Even though i know 3D is dying, there are still few hardcore fans out there that still love this format.


RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - popcornmix - 2015-10-28

(2015-10-28, 21:05)movie78 Wrote: So is it that complicated to add MVC to FFMPEG?

There has been a 6000 € bounty to add MVC support to VLC (which uses ffmpeg for codecs):
https://wiki.videolan.org/Bounties/#MVC

which has been there for a long time, so I can say the difficulty is greater than 6000 €.


RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - movie78 - 2015-10-28

(2015-10-28, 21:15)popcornmix Wrote:
(2015-10-28, 21:05)movie78 Wrote: So is it that complicated to add MVC to FFMPEG?

There has been a 6000 € bounty to add MVC support to VLC (which uses ffmpeg for codecs):
https://wiki.videolan.org/Bounties/#MVC

which has been there for a long time, so I can say the difficulty is greater than 6000 €.

6000€ and no takers.

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RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - looun - 2015-10-28

(2015-10-28, 21:15)popcornmix Wrote:
(2015-10-28, 21:05)movie78 Wrote: So is it that complicated to add MVC to FFMPEG?

There has been a 6000 € bounty to add MVC support to VLC (which uses ffmpeg for codecs):
https://wiki.videolan.org/Bounties/#MVC

which has been there for a long time, so I can say the difficulty is greater than 6000 €.

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RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - Skank - 2015-10-29

Hdmkv, any news from you? Got the himedia H8? Review?


RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - hdmkv - 2015-10-29

I'm expecting delivery today. Looking at Futeko forum, don't have my hopes high at this point with where the firmware is. I believe 3D ISO's play at HSBS in Kodi, just like firmware v1.0.16 on Zidoo X6. So, X6 is a step ahead of HiMedia with frame-packed playback with beta firmware v1.0.18. But, HiMedia is expected to release their own firmware update soon.

What I'll be checking first is whether H8 exhibits macroblocking, pixellation artifacts in video playback via its native player like X6. Anyway, will spend this weekend testing out the H8, then post impressions.


RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - Skank - 2015-10-29

Cool, curious too if H8 has the same macroblocking and artefacts
It seems it suffers from jerkiness too, but thats not the same?


RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - Carousel - 2015-10-29

A retailer in Europe advised me to wait for the next firmware for "perfect 7.1 Audio in Kodi". But no Atmos means no sale for me.


RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - Cob2 - 2015-10-29

So for now, is it HiMedia H8 their top product or is there better? I read about Q16 but can't find it at their website. Is it fake?


RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - hdmkv - 2015-10-29

Q16 is targeted for Asian market. H8 isn't HiMedia's top product; Q5/Q10 are for now.

Re: my H8 review unit, gotta wait as it came with UK plug Sad. Will have adapter plug for U.S. from Amazon Saturday, then can test.


RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - RockerC - 2015-10-30

(2015-10-28, 21:05)movie78 Wrote:
(2015-10-28, 20:59)nickr Wrote:
(2015-10-28, 09:22)looun Wrote: time ago i found this article http://www.nt.uni-saarland.de/fileadmin/file_uploads/theses/master/Optimized_implementation_of_a_MVC_decoder.pdf ,that can be useful?
Been pointed too numerous times here and in ffmpeg circles. Seems to be ignored, or not easy to adapt to current ffmpeg code.
So is it that complicated to add MVC to FFMPEG?
Yes it is very complicated to add acceptable H.246 MVC code support to FFmpeg / Libav codec library.

The good knews is that Libav, a fork of FFmpeg, at least have a few developers that are interested in working on a major refactoring and cleanup of the H.264 code to accommodate MVC support, read:

Libav developer Luca Barbato have posted a nice little summary about this huge task on his blog
http://blogs.gentoo.org/lu_zero/2014/04/04/the-road-to-mvc/
https://wiki.libav.org/Blueprint/MVC

To summerize; due to the fact that the Libav (and FFmpeg) H.264 decoder code have been developed ad-hoc for around 10-years so its code is not clean or well structured, which is what makes adding MVC to in an acceptable clean way it practically impossible before the fundamental core the H.264 decoder code have first been refactored into using more clean and well structured code.

More discussion about that refactoring effort and work on MVC in their libav-devel mailing list
https://lists.libav.org/mailman/listinfo/libav-devel/

So there is a small hope, and there is at least a good chance that if and when Libav finish their refactoring and cleanup of the H.264 code that FFmpeg developers might perhaps back-port those changes to FFmpeg, which in turn opens up to adding MVC support.


RE: Player Choices with Kodi + Full 3D + HD Audio - hdmkv - 2015-10-30

Just stumbled upon this... the new Apple TV apparently supports 3D. The couple of articles I found via Googling "Apple TV" and "3D" don't mention what type of 3D, but pretty interesting.


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